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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭naughto


    Normal train booked out for Sunday doubt there be a special


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Maybe a new backroom team is whats needed though. Maybe that's where to push for something different will come from. Look forward to seeing who gets on board and what they bring. Onwards and upwards for 2019. But right now I'm looking forward to Sunday and see what comes out of that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Solan will be brought in as the link between U20s and senior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭boosabum


    PressRun wrote: »
    Solan will be brought in as the link between U20s and senior.

    If he delivers again on Sunday, he may well push for the big job itself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    boosabum wrote: »
    If he delivers again on Sunday, he may well push for the big job itself

    A year or two transition period would be ideal. Excited to see who will make up the new team. I think it's a good call. Last roll of the dice for a nice chunk of the team, a little shake up could be perfect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Mayo News Football Podcast 2018 All Ireland Under 20 final Preview

    https://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2018-08-01T12_04_24-07_00.mp3

    Discussion of the changes in the backroom team etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    PressRun wrote: »
    Solan will be brought in as the link between U20s and senior.
    The u20 panel have serious time for him. It would be a good move by Rochford provided he wanted to come in.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    The u20 panel have serious time for him. It would be a good move by Rochford provided he wanted to come in.

    And the brand of football he gets the team playing is superb. I have been v impressed with him so far... but Sunday is the day of reckoning for many Mayo managers who reach AI finals....

    Did all the backroom staff leave of their own accord I wonder? Id be curious to understand the logic of a full clear out and why the manager remains in place, are they equating the lack of a Connacht title and elimination this year with the backroom staff and not at the door of the manager?
    To me its odd that they go and he remains and after the chairmans comments about a "Clear out" was this driven from board level and not an agreement by the staff themselves.

    I could be wide of the mark though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    yop wrote: »
    And the brand of football he gets the team playing is superb. I have been v impressed with him so far... but Sunday is the day of reckoning for many Mayo managers who reach AI finals....

    Did all the backroom staff leave of their own accord I wonder? Id be curious to understand the logic of a full clear out and why the manager remains in place, are they equating the lack of a Connacht title and elimination this year with the backroom staff and not at the door of the manager?
    To me its odd that they go and he remains and after the chairmans comments about a "Clear out" was this driven from board level and not an agreement by the staff themselves.

    I could be wide of the mark though.
    Maybe the chairman knew there was going to be big changes ( for whatever reasons ) and wants to be the Big Man with his announcement .

    When it comes to team affairs it would be better if we heard very little from the chairman . Let him have his say privately and behind the scenes .


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    http://hoganstand.com/Mayo/Article/Index/288639
    By Paddy Hickey

    Mayo Board chairman Mike Connolly has admitted he's in the dark regarding speculation that football boss Stephen Rochford will have to find three replacements for his backroom team.

    Reports yesterday claimed that selectors Donie Buckley and former star goalkeeper Peter Burke, who doubles up as the Mayo goalkeeping coach, have quit Rochford's set-up.

    And there is also a strong feeling that Armagh 2002 All-Ireland winner Tony McEntee is due to step away from his role with the Connacht county.

    "All I know about the speculation regarding the position of Donie Buckley, Peter Burke and Tony McEntee is what I've read in the newspapers," stressed the top Mayo official.

    "And that will remain the position until next week when we're due to have a meeting with Stephen Rochford and the rest of the team management in which we'll be discussing our plans for next year, and which people will be involved in the team-management end of things.

    "With so many people on holidays in recent weeks, there was no major rush for us to hold this meeting."

    Obviously, losing backroom colleagues of the calibre of Buckley, Burke and McEntee would serve as a major blow to Rochford's hopes of at least improving on his side's qualifiers' third round defeat by Kildare, at Newbridge, on June 30, in next year's Championship campaign.

    Kerry native Buckley, winner of an All-Ireland Club medal with Castleisland Desmonds, is one of the most highly regarded coaches in the game, and he has been part of the Mayo set-up since October 2012 when his services were acquired by then team supremo James Horan.

    Similarly, Burke has served an even lengthier tenure of eight years, the first six years solely as goalkeeping coach, and the last two years doubling up as a team selector, and former Crossmaglen Rangers boss McEntee has been part of Rochfort's backroom team for the last three years.

    On the positive side for Mayo, Connolly is optimistic that long-serving defender Keith Higgins won't follow in the footsteps of utility ace Barry Moran, who recently called time on his inter-county career.

    "As well as his football, Keith Higgins enjoys his hurling to a considerable degree and I'd be very surprised if he didn't decide to commit to Mayo for another year," remarked the county chairman.

    "Keith is the type of player who always keep himself in great shape throughout the year, and he always maintains a very high degree of fitness.

    "So, I'm sure that playing on at inter-county level in 2019 would pose no problem for Keith."

    Turning to the Championship elimination by Kildare, and the failure to at least match last year's All-Ireland final loss to Dublin, Connolly said: "Obviously we would prefer to have gone further in this year's Championship.

    "But the fact that Tom Parsons and Seamus O'Shea were ruled out of the game because of injury made it very difficult for us.

    "As well, playing at Newbridge was worth a few points to Kildare, and there was only two points between the teams at the end of the game."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭muddle84


    yop wrote: »
    The u20 panel have serious time for him. It would be a good move by Rochford provided he wanted to come in.

    And the brand of football he gets the team playing is superb. I have been v impressed with him so far... but Sunday is the day of reckoning for many Mayo managers who reach AI finals....

    Did all the backroom staff leave of their own accord I wonder?  Id be curious to understand the logic of a full clear out and why the manager remains in place, are they equating the lack of a Connacht title and elimination this year with the backroom staff and not at the door of the manager?
    To me its odd that they go and he remains and after the chairmans comments about a "Clear out" was this driven from board level and not an agreement by the staff themselves.

    I could be wide of the mark though.

    Don't forget that this isn't Solan's first time in an All Ireland final at an equivalent level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    yop wrote: »
    Did all the backroom staff leave of their own accord I wonder? Id be curious to understand the logic of a full clear out and why the manager remains in place, are they equating the lack of a Connacht title and elimination this year with the backroom staff and not at the door of the manager?
    To me its odd that they go and he remains and after the chairmans comments about a "Clear out" was this driven from board level and not an agreement by the staff themselves.

    I could be wide of the mark though.

    I would have guessed that it was all fairly amicable. They've been through a lot. Backroom team may have already decided it was their last year or if it was Rochfords call, I doubt it would have sent shockwaves.
    SR: Lads I'm giving it another 1/2 years and I want to freshen it up. Thanks for all you've done but I need to change it up.


    Very possible that there could have been pressure from the CB too. I wouldn't rule out them going to SR and saying that they have Solan in mind down the line and it would be good to get him into the setup, prompting a clear out and the above scenario.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    muddle84 wrote: »
    Don't forget that this isn't Solan's first time in an All Ireland final at an equivalent level.

    That went totally out of my mind! Bit like a Mickey Harte who (could be wrong) took underage Tyrone U21 AI wins and then into senior.
    I have been very impressed with him and now when my brain has engaged, the U21 win was v impressive also.
    The style of play is very open.

    I'd be very happy to see him come in alongside SR for next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    I think perhaps too many are trying to read too much into the three lads going, there hasnt been a sniff of any suggestion of any discord in the camp. From what i hear this was going to be Burkes last year anyway. maybe just maybe this is just a natural smooth transition, lets enjoy the novelty factor in that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Had heard before as well that the trip for McEntee for training sessions was a lot for him to take on. Probably too much to continue to commit to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    I think perhaps too many are trying to read too much into the three lads going, there hasnt been a sniff of any suggestion of any discord in the camp. From what i hear this was going to be Burkes last year anyway. maybe just maybe this is just a natural smooth transition, lets enjoy the novelty factor in that


    Think its the same with Buckley who wanted to go earlier but was convinced to stay on. Whatever about managers & selectors, it makes sense for coaches to move on after a few years. There will come a point where a coach just cant help the team any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Personally, I think that Burke going would be a good thing and he's no loss - he was supposed to be the goalkeeping coach but neither keeper improved one iota under his watch and their weakness/faults were never addressed in any way. As a selector, well, I would imagine that he will be easily replaced there.

    Not sure about McEntee to be honest, seems to be mixed reports.

    Buckley is a huge loss in my opinion. I'm not sure whether he ever got the credit or thanks he deserves from the Mayo people for everything that he did for the team. Possibly down to him being a Kerryman, possibly down to him having a pretty much invisible profile (when was the last time, if ever, you heard him talking to the media?). Either way, without him, I don't believe that we would have got to where we did and achieved what we did without him. So, if you ever see or read this, thanks a million for everything Donie - you will be missed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    TBF the qualities of Donie Buckley are well recognised within the county and he'll no doubt have many suitors most especially close to his spiritual home in the kingdom.

    It's rumoured that on a couple of occasions he was ready to walk away but was persuaded to stay on.

    Nonetheless it really is no harm to freshen things up.I'm sure all and sundry within the Mayo setup will at this stage be well versed to the majority of his coaching techniques.

    As so many have mentioned I'd really like to see Michael Solan come on board next year hopefully post an All Ireland under 20s win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    BandMember wrote: »
    Personally, I think that Burke going would be a good thing and he's no loss - he was supposed to be the goalkeeping coach but neither keeper improved one iota under his watch and their weakness/faults were never addressed in any way. As a selector, well, I would imagine that he will be easily replaced there.

    Not sure about McEntee to be honest, seems to be mixed reports.

    Buckley is a huge loss in my opinion. I'm not sure whether he ever got the credit or thanks he deserves from the Mayo people for everything that he did for the team. Possibly down to him being a Kerryman, possibly down to him having a pretty much invisible profile (when was the last time, if ever, you heard him talking to the media?). Either way, without him, I don't believe that we would have got to where we did and achieved what we did without him. So, if you ever see or read this, thanks a million for everything Donie - you will be missed!

    What are you basing all this on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    BandMember wrote: »
    Personally, I think that Burke going would be a good thing and he's no loss - he was supposed to be the goalkeeping coach but neither keeper improved one iota under his watch and their weakness/faults were never addressed in any way. As a selector, well, I would imagine that he will be easily replaced there.

    Well if you haven't seen the improvement in Clarke's game then it's hard to respect your opinion. He has had to revolutionise his game i.e kick-outs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Unchanged team for Sunday.

    1. Patrick O Malley - Westport
    2. Johnny Maughan - Castlebar Mitchels
    3. Brian O Malley - Westport
    4. John Cunnane - Ballyhaunis
    5. Paul Lambert - Westport
    6. Cathal Horan - Kilmovee
    7. Oisin McLaughlin - Westport
    8. Evan O Brien - Ballinrobe
    9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
    10. Nathan Moran - Hollymount/Carramore
    11. Ryan O Donoghue - Belmullet(Captain)
    12. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
    13. Conor Diskin - Claremorris
    14. Ross Egan - Aghamore
    15. Colm Moran - Westport

    Team Manager: Mike Solan
    Selectors: John Ginty, Michael Conroy & Damien Egan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    An oft talked about goalkeeper has returned to the fold after a great career in the League of Ireland.

    A serious option when David Clarke does eventually call it a day.

    http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2018/08/03/4159840-schlingermann-is-back-in-/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Well if you haven't seen the improvement in Clarke's game then it's hard to respect your opinion. He has had to revolutionise his game i.e kick-outs

    I would say that the kick outs did improve but fall well short of revolutionised. He is not a natural(ly good) kicker of the ball in terms of the high standards required of a modern keeper imo. Brilliant keeper all the same.

    In related news, Schlingerman or whatever he is called has packed in soccer and is back playing GAA.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    PARlance wrote: »
    I would say that the kick outs did improve but fall well short of revolutionised. He is not a natural(ly good) kicker of the ball in terms of the high standards required of a modern keeper imo. Brilliant keeper all the same.

    In related news, Schlingerman or whatever he is called has packed in soccer and is back playing GAA.
    Where did ya hear that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭naughto


    It I’ll be the u20s goalie surly o malley that will get the call up when clarke retires


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    naughto wrote: »
    It I’ll be the u20s goalie surly o malley that will get the call up when clarke retires

    He possibly is in pole position for the call up but there are no guarantees in this life that he can make the transition.TBH I haven't seen him in action a whole lot.

    I've always rated Matthew Flanagan highly,he'd be my first choice to be given an opportunity at grasping the reins.

    Now we can throw Schlingerman into the mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,367 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    seligehgit wrote: »
    He possibly is in pole position for the call up but there are no guarantees in this life that he can make the transition.TBH I haven't seen him in action a whole lot.

    I've always rated Matthew Flanagan highly,he'd be my first choice to be given an opportunity at grasping the reins.

    Now we can throw Schlingerman into the mix.

    Schlingerman certainly had one of the important traits of Mayo player, the disappointment of losing big games.

    He lost a minor final and not long after a club final,the then went on to lose an FAI Cup final in a shootout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,490 ✭✭✭✭km79


    PARlance wrote: »
    I would say that the kick outs did improve but fall well short of revolutionised. He is not a natural(ly good) kicker of the ball in terms of the high standards required of a modern keeper imo. Brilliant keeper all the same.

    In related news, Schlingerman or whatever he is called has packed in soccer and is back playing GAA.

    Would imagine Schlingerman is a good shot stopper and good with his feet too
    Under the high ball who knows ..................I just can't see us turning to Hennelly when Clarke retires. What's the point ?
    I feel sorry for him at this stage . All that training year round


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,490 ✭✭✭✭km79


    blinding wrote: »
    Where did ya hear that ?

    Connacht Telegraph


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,908 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    naughto wrote: »
    u20s goalie surly o malley

    Really grumpy is he?:P You'd think Cillian would have that nickname taken...


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