Are we from this planet originally?

pleas advice · 21-07-2018 01:19PM

Have a read of this, OP. You might find something in it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

hatrickpatrick · 21-07-2018 01:22PM

I don't think the question asked here is as ridiculous or outlandish as some are making out. There are several credible theories which hold that there's a possibility cellular life was brought to Earth by a comet in an impact event.

https://www.space.com/33011-life-building-blocks-found-around-comet.html

It's highly unlikely we'll ever definitively prove the origin of cellular life on Earth - there's simply been too much water under the bridge since life emerged here (including a catastrophic volcanic eruption 250 million years ago which wiped out 96% of all life on the plant at the time) for there to be provable evidence. But the idea that life emerged entirely organically from terrestrial processes is far from certain. Many different theories propose that at Earth was "seeded" with at least some of the necessary building blocks for life by impact events.

Outlaw Pete · 21-07-2018 01:26PM

Very astute, OP.

Earth started out as an galactic penal colony about 40,000 years ago. Essentially the Van Diemen's Land of The Milky Way. 'Death by Neanderthal' is what we used to call it whenever a ne'er-do-well was exiled here but alas they all started shagging each other and crime went up back home as a result. People wanted to see the "Earth Orgy" for themselves you see, so that put paid to that.

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 01:26PM

pleas advice wrote: »

Have a read of this, OP. You might find something in it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

LOL!

Cheerful Spring · 21-07-2018 01:33PM

StereoSound wrote: »

I think its good to think outside the box about everything, since the universe has yet to be comprehensively explored. The fine details as to how we ended up here and the science behind it is just assumed. My point is that there is a possibility life on this earth originated from other earthly worlds where a transition was made to populate other planets.

Man will one day probably live on mars right? If we as humans have this theory then it's reasonable to assume others have put us here on this earth for the same reason.

Anyways its interesting discussion. Carry on chaps

A Pentagon UFO project was recently revealed by the New York Times and the study looked at all anomalous activity that interacted with the US military for past decade. Their conclusion was no country on earth has these vehicles in their inventory.

Luiz Elizondo who ran the UFO program has spoken more about it on different radio shows. He has confirmed other US agencies have their own UFO programs, but he can't speak about those projects as they are classified and only the US government can't reveal them. He also stated the US government has better videos of UFOs that are way better than ones released but they are still classified. The videos released were to just start the conversation the goal is to bring this out to the public who thought the subject was bunk. He said they currently looking into showing and bringing out UFO metamaterials so Scientists not involved in the programs can look at. He also hinted members of Congress are being briefed on the subject behind closed doors and there maybe be an eventual open congress debate on the subject and what it alls means.

You going to see lot more films about the UFO subject in the coming years to get people more aware of the reality of this phenomenon.

Wibbs · 21-07-2018 01:38PM

Adrien Massive Foxhound wrote: »

What's the story with pigs? We can generally accept their organs for transplants and they sunburn quickly like us.

If by "us" you mean those of European ancestry then yes, but Asians and African among others don't sunburn to nearly the same degree. Even very pale Asians don't as their pale skin is the result of a different set of mutations to Europeans and one that's more resistant to sun damage while still having the ability to soak up more vitamin D when required. Europeans got the shite end of the deal there. More skin cancer and faster ageing of the skin.

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 01:40PM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You going to see lot more films about the UFO subject in the coming years to get people more aware of the reality of this phenomenon.

Ah... Not so sure about this..

But your point about us military watching this space is valid.

But I think covert military development is far more likely to account for that interest.

Cheerful Spring · 21-07-2018 01:46PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Ah... Not so sure about this..

But your point about us military watching this space is valid.

But I think covert military development is far more likely to account for that interest.

One of them is going to be released by the history channel very soon. Sure Hollywood is mixed in with it but people are going to learn about one of the pioneer people in UFology and the cases he investigated for the US airforce. He came in as a Skeptic J A hynek and eventually turned into a believer.

Elizondo was given access to secret programs but this stuff has to be protected from its enemies so they releasing at a slow pace. Elizonda is aware of all covert activity.

Cheerful Spring · 21-07-2018 01:57PM

This is another one that loosely based on the O Hara international airport sighting

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-07-2018 03:10PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

This is a prison planet for the worst scum in the universe.

In all honesty, you're not that bad, tbf:pac:

RiderOnTheStorm · 21-07-2018 06:05PM

StereoSound wrote:

I think its good to think outside the box about everything, since the universe has yet to be comprehensively explored. The fine details as to how we ended up here and the science behind it is just assumed.....

Totally agree.

For a long time the majority of people believed that God created the Earth & humans designed to live on it. And you could not teach evolution. Then in very short time the whole world believes in evolution and you cant teach creation. If you say you believe in it you are either ridiculed or assumed to be too stupid to understand evolution. Maybe its time to rediscover and old idea.

I do believe we are designed to live on this planet, and we didn't come from another planet.

By the way, we are all born with the ability to swim. See cover of Nirvana's album for proof. We just unlearn it from lack of use.

4068ac1elhodqr · 21-07-2018 07:21PM

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Totally agree.

For a long time the majority of people believed that God created the Earth & humans designed to live on it. And you could not teach evolution. Then in very short time the whole world believes in evolution and you cant teach creation. If you say you believe in it you are either ridiculed or assumed to be too stupid to understand evolution. Maybe its time to rediscover and old idea.

I do believe we are designed to live on this planet, and we didn't come from another planet.

By the way, we are all born with the ability to swim. See cover of Nirvana's album for proof. We just unlearn it from lack of use.

Yes highly likely 'evolved' from the sea. About 1% still today have the genetic leftover of fish gills, they are 'nodules, dents, or dimples' that are exposed anywhere around the external ear – specifically, where the 'face' and the cartilage meet.

However there is still some questions regarding the leap from stupid fish/apes into modern conscious human.

redblaze · 21-07-2018 08:03PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The primordial soup theory is out the window.
Hydrothermal vents?

Nick Lane is a good writer to follow in this area.

And it seems life started up really quickly once it had the chance.

The great blocker seems to be the jump from prokaryotic to multi cellular eukaryotes.

But could the jump from pre-life chemistry to replicating RNA come about so quickly?

Makes me think that panspermia is a plausible theory. Maybe Fred Hoyle was right.

Somewhere in here is philosophical genius Corcaigh. But we need some help with the above in layman's language.

StereoSound · 21-07-2018 08:19PM

mickoneill31 wrote: »

What's your theory OP?

That some great apes or common ancestor were dropped off by a spaceship and we evolved from them or that the apes themselves were flying the spaceships?

You could be along those lines right to some degree.. except the apes flying the spacecraft.
Primitive beings purposely left here to survive for themselves in an environment unknown to them. Sort of like an experiment if you will. That's certainly one way of putting it. We will do the same with Mars one day, drop intelligent life onto the planet to build bases and utilise the existing oxygen there to produce a living atmosphere and produce different kinds of life.

Another reasonable assumption to life on this planet would be space debris from other worlds with active bacteria that crashed onto the earth and life found a way. I don't have any precise theories but an open mind as to how this planet became teemed with life. Some of these active bacteria probably landed in the oceans and the bacteria adapted to sea life as we see it today. Others landed on the earths surface and it found its way to adapt on dry land. Plants for example can move physically... Look at fly traps. Humans and animals are just more physical and aware of their surroundings hence we adapted as intelligent life forms. I'm not comparing people to plants other then the fact that they grow and die like us.

Could we have been put here by other intelligent life forms as a means for them to experiment with life finding its own way? Are we observed from distances unreachable by us? You wouldn't know what the FCK is out there watching us.. They probably don't mean us any harm since they could have wiped us out thousands of years ago if that were the case.

Shoot me for my theories but its interesting conversation:pac:

ardinn · 21-07-2018 08:21PM

This is a really interesting subject and the disaster on mars theory is proving more and more popular among scientists - something definitely happened there, there is a cliff 1 mile high around mars - like an equator, the can only be explained by some massive, MASSIVE abnormality.

Then we have gobleki tepi (sp) the pyramids, stonehenge and all the ancient monuments built, probably as a worldwide warning system - we just cant figure it out yet. The blocks on the pyramids and other sites have now been found to have been cut mechanically, a tool maker from 'american tools' who analyzed a particular stone said whatever cut it was spinning 5000 times faster than any tool he knew of that exists today!

The further I go into the different theories the more they link up together. About 12k years ago there was a cataclysm on this planet, and a more advanced civilization than our own was wiped out.

If you want to melt your brain, look up spirit science (this is mental - but watch it - there is a full 4hr episode on youtube) it is a bit wild and ridiculous sounding. but then listen to graham hancock on the joe rogan experience, there is about 6 or 7 3hr podcasts with him - he, years ago, was mocked and outcast from scientific circles for his theories, but is gaining more and more traction in recent years with scientists and egyptoligists who can no longer deny his research. You also have randall carson, and robert schoch backing up a lot of what he says regarding the ancient civilizations on earth.

Randalls work on climate change and what went on in the past regarding warming and cooling is staggering!

ardinn · 21-07-2018 08:23PM

It's also worth mentioning that there is a growing theory that octopus arrived here on a meteor, their intelligence and ridiculous abilities fit with no other species on the planet!

redblaze · 21-07-2018 08:24PM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

A Pentagon UFO project was recently revealed by the New York Times and the study looked at all anomalous activity that interacted with the US military for past decade. Their conclusion was no country on earth has these vehicles in their inventory.

Luiz Elizondo who ran the UFO program has spoken more about it on different radio shows. He has confirmed other US agencies have their own UFO programs, but he can't speak about those projects as they are classified and only the US government can't reveal them. He also stated the US government has better videos of UFOs that are way better than ones released but they are still classified. The videos released were to just start the conversation the goal is to bring this out to the public who thought the subject was bunk. He said they currently looking into showing and bringing out UFO metamaterials so Scientists not involved in the programs can look at. He also hinted members of Congress are being briefed on the subject behind closed doors and there maybe be an eventual open congress debate on the subject and what it alls means.

You going to see lot more films about the UFO subject in the coming years to get people more aware of the reality of this phenomenon.

Definitely. This was outlined by the Disclosure Project 17 years ago. Albeit they say we'll see a fake alien invasion as an act of war

gw80 · 21-07-2018 08:34PM

Wibbs wrote: »

If by "us" you mean those of European ancestry then yes, but Asians and African among others don't sunburn to nearly the same degree. Even very pale Asians don't as their pale skin is the result of a different set of mutations to Europeans and one that's more resistant to sun damage while still having the ability to soak up more vitamin D when required. Europeans got the shite end of the deal there. More skin cancer and faster ageing of the skin.

There's actually a guy on youtube, ( of course there is)who believe,s that white people are from another planet.

redblaze · 21-07-2018 08:48PM

ardinn wrote: »

About 12k years ago there was a cataclysm on this planet, and a more advanced civilization than our own was wiped out.

Interesting. Never heard of that one.

Got a link for more on it?

buried · 21-07-2018 08:58PM

redblaze wrote: »

Interesting. Never heard of that one.

Got a link for more on it?

Have a glawp at this podcast, goes into this theory a good bit, Randall Carlson is a very cool person. Other ones up there too with these guys

FishOnABike · 21-07-2018 09:03PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Rocks can travel from Mars to earth and vv.
No spaceships involved.

Comets can travel to the edge of the solar system and encounter other objects from other solar systems.

It seems too coincidental for these systems of transit to be in place yet be of no consequence for life.

Or maybe I'm overthinking the OP

You may be over thinking it.

Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.

Are Am Eye · 21-07-2018 09:25PM

I'll have the primordial soup please.

Cheerful Spring · 21-07-2018 09:53PM

buried wrote: »

Have a glawp at this podcast, goes into this theory a good bit, Randall Carlson is a very cool person. Other ones up there too with these guys

Watch this one it's better because you hear the different arguments from both sides of the debate. It's a long watch but interesting nevertheless. Shermer debated Hancock work on ancient civilizations. They connected with guests to support their views. I think Shermer respected Hancock more after this debate they had.

buried · 21-07-2018 09:59PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah I seen that one too! Was brilliant, great back and forth between everyone! There was a recent one with the geologist Robert Schoch, he was the scientist John Anthony West brought over to Egypt to look at the Sphinx and check out the rainfall erosion on the monument. Episode 1124

buried · 21-07-2018 10:05PM

Schoch also went into how some of the intricate stoneworks made in ancient Egypt could only have been made with high speed rotation saws, some sarcophagi have inner saw marks where the saw cut into the block and the high speed blade cuts can still be seen. Fascinating stuff

Beasty · 21-07-2018 10:39PM

This planet did not exist "originally"

We are all the product of the Big Bang

Roger Hassenforder · 21-07-2018 10:43PM

gw80 wrote: »

There's actually a guy on youtube, ( of course there is)who believe,s that white people are from another planet.

Planet Privilige?

4068ac1elhodqr · 21-07-2018 11:28PM

gw80 wrote: »

There's actually a guy on youtube, ( of course there is) who believe,s that white people are from another planet.

There is something of a genetic curiousty wherby some people (not neccessarily white, but is elevated in the Basque Country of Spain 30%), have the 'Rh-Negative Blood Type'.

In total 15% of earth folks have it, but this Spanish region has it elevated.

All monkeys/apes are all Rh-Positive (suggested common ancestor), and also (not being rude here) but research has also shown that black Africans who have no interaction with whites or mixed races 'do not' have the Rh-negative blood type.

So where did these Rh-Neg folks come from? Genetic mutation of sorts?

Women with Rh negative blood will be unable to carry the child of a man with an Rh positive type (or maybe can but with some complications e.g. Haemolytic disease).

oneilla · 21-07-2018 11:53PM

I have read of an idea that the water on this planet came here via a comet. So if life came from the water and the water came from elsewhere then I guess maybe we're really aliens...?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_water_on_Earth

Thephantomsmask · 21-07-2018 11:55PM

ardinn wrote: »

It's also worth mentioning that there is a growing theory that octopus arrived here on a meteor, their intelligence and ridiculous abilities fit with no other species on the planet!

All hail Cthulhu

Are we from this planet originally?

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