Are we from this planet originally?

StereoSound · 21-07-2018 11:30AM #1

If we are originally from this planet then how come we are subject to so many sicknesses and diseases from here? Our own sun can kill us.... The earth is 70% water and we are not born instinctively to swim so we will die if over exposed to it. Surely if we are natively from here we would be born naturally to tolerate perfectly everything on this earth.

With all the millions of planets out there it is not unreasonable to assume there are probably 100s of others with life forms like ours, humanoid forms.

Have you ever seen a UFO? I have on many occasions particularly during the summer time with clear skies. Lay on your back in the garden at night on a deck chair or whatever and stare up into the sky for a period of time, you will probably see half a dozen things moving about up there that you can't explain.

I'm interested in other peoples opinions on some of the points here.

biko · 21-07-2018 11:32AM

Yes we are.

Dave0301 · 21-07-2018 11:33AM

StereoSound wrote: »

If we are originally from this planet then how come we are subject to so many sicknesses and diseases from here? Our own sun can kill us.... The earth is 70% water and we are not born instinctively to swim so we will die if over exposed to it. Surely if we are natively from here we would be born naturally to tolerate perfectly everything on this earth.

Disease causing bacteria and viruses can evolve and mutant, just as we and other animals have done over the years.

Also, hate to break it to you, but other stars will have the same impact on us as the Sun.

Fourier · 21-07-2018 11:34AM

StereoSound wrote: »

If we are originally from this planet then how come we are subject to so many sicknesses and diseases from here?

They have evolved to target our bodies.

Our own sun can kill us....

Do you mean via skin cancer?

The earth is 70% water and we are not born instinctively to swim so we will die if over exposed to it. Surely if we are natively from here we would be born naturally to tolerate perfectly everything on this earth.

No we evolved on land and evolved to extract oxygen from air, not water. Similarly some sea life can't survive on land, two different environments.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 21-07-2018 11:35AM

If you think that we weren’t from here because we can’t instinctively swim then you must think that lions, zebras, cats, sheep, cows, elephants .... - in fact all land animals - are aliens.

Hector Bellend · 21-07-2018 11:36AM

I think therefore I ****

biko · 21-07-2018 11:36AM

Tbh, OP - there is no place better for you in the entire universe than this planet.

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 11:37AM

I'm open to the idea of panspermia.
Life started off very quickly after the great bombardment.

Mars might have been where prokaryotic life started.

Maybe we're all Martians.

judeboy101 · 21-07-2018 11:37AM

We are but Marty Morrissey isn't.

Hector Bellend · 21-07-2018 11:40AM

judeboy101 wrote: »

We are but Marty Morrissey isn't.

biddly biddly

Temptamperu · 21-07-2018 12:00PM

This is a prison planet for the worst scum in the universe.

Lorelli! · 21-07-2018 12:01PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Maybe we're all Martians.

Not all of us. Some of us are more than likely Venusian.

StereoSound · 21-07-2018 12:02PM

I think its good to think outside the box about everything, since the universe has yet to be comprehensively explored. The fine details as to how we ended up here and the science behind it is just assumed. My point is that there is a possibility life on this earth originated from other earthly worlds where a transition was made to populate other planets.

Man will one day probably live on mars right? If we as humans have this theory then it's reasonable to assume others have put us here on this earth for the same reason.

Anyways its interesting discussion. Carry on chaps

s7ryf3925pivug · 21-07-2018 12:03PM

Camels are clearly space aliens too, given their poor ability to survive in the ocean.

TheValeyard · 21-07-2018 12:08PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I'm open to the idea of panspermia.
Life started off very quickly after the great bombardment.

Mars might have been where prokaryotic life started.

Maybe we're all Martians.

Mars at some stage may have been our sister world until disaster struck.

We definitely originated here, all the evidence points that way. But who knows, maybe theres more of us, out there, somewhere...

Duff · 21-07-2018 12:12PM

What about the Nephilim?

StereoSound · 21-07-2018 12:14PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Mars at some stage may have been our sister world until disaster struck.

We definitely originated here, all the evidence points that way. But who knows, maybe theres more of us, out there, somewhere...

Nice thinking... Very reasonable theory since mars is radioactive now, for what reason? Nuclear war?

Signore Fancy Pants · 21-07-2018 12:16PM

StereoSound wrote: »

Nice thinking... Very reasonable theory since mars is radioactive now, for what reason? Nuclear war?

Cohaagen took the air

Giraffe Box · 21-07-2018 12:20PM

Maybe we're all descendant from migrant occupants of interplanetary craft and our spaceship was turned away from Mars and sent to planet Earth, a place, hitherto, that had refused to take its fair share of humanoid seekers of a better life.
I hasten to add - before the usual shower start fulminating - that this occurrence predated Islam by at least a couple of years, so we weren't all Muslim migrants as such.;)

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 12:22PM

Lorelli! wrote: »

Not all of us. Some of us are more than likely Venusian.

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 12:23PM

Giraffe Box wrote: »

Maybe we're all descendant from migrant occupants of interplanetary craft and our spaceship was turned away from Mars and sent to planet Earth, a place, hitherto, that had refused to take its fair share of humanoid seekers of a better life.
I hasten to add - before the usual shower start fulminating - that this occurrence predated Islam by at least a couple of years, so we weren't all Muslim migrants as such.;)

Calling occupants...

Try_harder · 21-07-2018 12:30PM

OP isn't

buried · 21-07-2018 12:35PM

If the landlords ever return to boot us out the gaff we're definitely not getting back the deposit

mickoneill31 · 21-07-2018 12:39PM

What's your theory OP?

That some great apes or common ancestor were dropped off by a spaceship and we evolved from them or that the apes themselves were flying the spaceships?

Evolution isn't there to make us invulnerable to the environment. It's there to ensure that we reproduce. After that, getting killed off by skin cancer (as an example) or anything else in the environment doesn't really matter to it.

If skin cancer was a major threat prior to repoduction then those who had a greater immunity against it would be more likely to reproduce and those who were vulnerable would die off before reproducing so you'd end up with a species that isn't really that susceptible to it in their first 20 / 30 years. You know, like us. Getting cancer in your older years 40s / 50s etc. doesn't really affect reproduction.

Stanford · 21-07-2018 12:40PM

How do we explain Trump then..?

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 12:47PM

The primordial soup theory is out the window.
Hydrothermal vents?

Nick Lane is a good writer to follow in this area.

And it seems life started up really quickly once it had the chance.

The great blocker seems to be the jump from prokaryotic to multi cellular eukaryotes.

But could the jump from pre-life chemistry to replicating RNA come about so quickly?

Makes me think that panspermia is a plausible theory. Maybe Fred Hoyle was right.

Giraffe Box · 21-07-2018 12:48PM

mickoneill31 wrote: »

What's your theory OP?

That some great apes or common ancestor were dropped off by a spaceship and we evolved from them or that the apes themselves were flying the spaceships?

Evolution isn't there to make us invulnerable to the environment. It's there to ensure that we reproduce. After that, getting killed off by skin cancer (as an example) or anything else in the environment doesn't really matter to it.

If skin cancer was a major threat prior to repoduction then those who had a greater immunity against it would be more likely to reproduce and those who were vulnerable would die off before reproducing so you'd end up with a species that isn't really that susceptible to it in their first 20 / 30 years. You know, like us. Getting cancer in your older years 40s / 50s etc. doesn't really affect reproduction.

I thought the OP was just riffing, if he really believes - 'Have you ever seen a UFO? I have on many occasions particularly during the summer time with clear skies.' - then of course, he's a fruit bat and we shouldn't be encouraging him.
I'll get my coat.

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 12:48PM

Stanford wrote: »

How do we explain Trump then..?

P.ie

igCorcaigh · 21-07-2018 12:53PM

Giraffe Box wrote: »

I thought the OP was just riffing, if he really believes - 'Have you ever seen a UFO? I have on many occasions particularly during the summer time with clear skies.' - then of course, he's a fruit bat and we shouldn't be encouraging him.
I'll get my coat.

Rocks can travel from Mars to earth and vv.
No spaceships involved.

Comets can travel to the edge of the solar system and encounter other objects from other solar systems.

It seems too coincidental for these systems of transit to be in place yet be of no consequence for life.

Or maybe I'm overthinking the OP

Cheerful Spring · 21-07-2018 01:03PM

Yes I have seen unexplained objects two times in my life so far. The first time was when I was 13 and 14 and then again when I was 29

I can't say it was Alien, but the events are something I never experienced before.

First event involved two coloured lights one was green and the other red they weren't orbs or circular they were shaped horizontal they looked a school ruler and before I saw them fly past they sky started flashing uncontrollably like it was going through an electric shock of some sort? Once the objects had gone the flashing just faded out and went back to normal. I witnessed this with a couple of friends.

My last sighting was onboard a Ryanair flight from Stansted to Cork. I was halfway home with my girlfriend at that time I witnessed multiple black objects about 5 to 6 just motionless in the clouds. My girlfriend said the objects had a orange tint at the top but i couldn't see that personally. I wish still to this day i taken out my phone and taken video and pictures but we were sitting at the very front in seats and the air hostess was there so i didn't my biggest regret.

4068ac1elhodqr · 21-07-2018 01:14PM

What's the story with pigs? We can generally accept their organs for transplants and they sunburn quickly like us.
Those medieval folks in the MidEast won't eat them as they're considered 'tainted' 'dirty' 'forbidden' or something (cannibalism).

One wild theory is that the ufo chaps from the Pleiades star cluster (GL planet at star HD 23514),
mixed pigs and apes as they were plentyful and handy, added a bit of Chromosone-2 and a dash of their own intelligence to create modern human to mine for gold.
Some suggest the evolution to inteligent human was rapid (miR-941) and dramatic, to the neocortex gene (ARHGAP11B).

We welcome our alien overlords if they have better WiFi, also if take away and probe our social leaders: The Kardagins.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/699147/Human-alien-hybrids-ancient-astronauts-dna-Pleiades-stars
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/777627/alien-dna-message-human

Are we from this planet originally?

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