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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    gerryirl wrote: »
    ya got 3.90 today for cattle. The weanling would want to well cheap this backend I tell ya or I think I'll become a summer time farmer :D

    After all the dry cows sold the last few years there mightn’t be the plentiful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    After all the dry cows sold the last few years there mightn’t be the plentiful

    I think there will be a lot of suckler cows for sale this back end, drought leading to less fodder , the available fodder will be expensive And the suckler cow won’t generate anywhere near the € that the black and white can to justify E40 a bale of hay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    gerryirl wrote: »
    ya got 3.90 today for cattle. The weanling would want to well cheap this backend I tell ya or I think I'll become a summer time farmer :D

    I think weanling and stores will be under fierce pressure this back end. There is no second cut silage
    Danzy wrote: »
    It looks like they will be, the economics and logic of short fodder adds to it but they will not be as cheap as things suggest.

    Logic and the mart ring are often not on speaking terms.

    It will not just be fodder but ration will be crazy money as well. Bulk ration will be 280ish/ton. Bags 8.5-9 euro/bag if it is any way decent. No finisher has money in his pocket and they have not a lot of silage either
    After all the dry cows sold the last few years there mightn’t be the plentiful

    There will be plenty of them, higher percentage of beef breed calves off dairy cows.
    sonnybill wrote: »
    I think there will be a lot of suckler cows for sale this back end, drought leading to less fodder , the available fodder will be expensive And the suckler cow won’t generate anywhere near the € that the black and white can to justify E40 a bale of hay

    Everything will be under pressure. Lads will have big ration bill before the winter starts at all. As cheap as store or cull goes there still will not be buyers.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,682 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    sonnybill wrote: »
    I think there will be a lot of suckler cows for sale this back end, drought leading to less fodder , the available fodder will be expensive And the suckler cow won’t generate anywhere near the € that the black and white can to justify E40 a bale of hay

    Got bales of hay yesterday for €25 each


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Got bales of hay yesterday for €25 each

    Were they small square ones:D

    Seriously though that's not bad price as long as it's good stuff. A lot of rushes baled up this way for bedding as I'd say straw will not be got


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,682 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    gerryirl wrote: »
    Were they small square ones:D

    Seriously though that's not bad price as long as it's good stuff. A lot of rushes baled up this way for bedding as I'd say straw will not be got
    ye nice enough stuff, will give it to sucklers in the autumn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    sonnybill wrote: »
    I think there will be a lot of suckler cows for sale this back end, drought leading to less fodder , the available fodder will be expensive And the suckler cow won’t generate anywhere near the € that the black and white can to justify E40 a bale of hay

    Most suckler farmers (up this way anyway) won’t be too badly effected as they keep same amount of cows, cut same amount


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭KAMG


    3.90 base yesterday in the midlands. Grades seemed a little on the harsh side but maybe I'm imagining it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    gerryirl wrote: »
    whelan2 wrote: »
    Got bales of hay yesterday for €25 each

    Were they small square ones:D

    Seriously though that's not bad price as long as it's good stuff. A lot of rushes baled up this way for bedding as I'd say straw will not be got

    Have booked straw at €35 for rounds. No price for big squares yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,682 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have booked straw at €35 for rounds. No price for big squares yet.

    Was talking to my straw man last night. He said its crazy the amount t of lads ringing looking for straw and last year ya couldn't give it away


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Was talking to my straw man last night. He said its crazy the amount t of lads ringing looking for straw and last year ya couldn't give it away

    Straw was expensive last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭tanko


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Straw was expensive last year.

    Got round bales of straw delivered for €18 in August last year, it got expensive after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭mayota


    Any issues with killing cattle that are only in the herd for a week or so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    mayota wrote: »
    Any issues with killing cattle that are only in the herd for a week or so?

    None at all but You won't get the 12cent quality bonus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Most suckler farmers (up this way anyway) won’t be too badly effected as they keep same amount of cows, cut same amount

    Well you might be right but around here we cut the same or more but did not get what we need for winter.
    I would think there might be a lot of suckler cows for sale but not too many willing to buy them if they are incalf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,682 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Straw was expensive last year.

    I'd say he meant the stuff that couldn't be baled until ages after it was cut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Well you might be right but around here we cut the same or more but did not get what we need for winter.
    I would think there might be a lot of suckler cows for sale but not too many willing to buy them if they are incalf

    It was discussed recently
    If they’re goo sort bring up this way, later on
    A good one will make a good price, but strong dairy influenced not as good
    Heard could be lots of dry cows as Problems getting incalf due to last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Got bales of hay yesterday for €25 each

    That’s v good, Out west you can add a E10 transport cost


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Was in fermoy yesterday at the boat , thought 170/180 per kilo live was a great price for bad cattle plenty of Frx there .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    What R+ Cull cows making in factory ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    o/p cows quoted at only €2.90 flat in munster ,although local lad with a few loads got €3.10 flat earlier this week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    The glut of prime cattle has passed.
    And it will be steady as she goes for a good while now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    cute geoge wrote: »
    o/p cows quoted at only €2.90 flat in munster ,although local lad with a few loads got €3.10 flat earlier this week
    Taking to a lad in Wexford yesterday and he was saying there is a two week wait to kill a cow in the SE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    It was taking nearly that to get prime cattle killed too.. until today. They were boasting of another pull for Monday midweek but they ain’t getting the cattle. Possibly a bounce back coming. The milk men are throwing underfleshed cow at them devil may care attitude but good cows are a better trade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    https://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

    Interesting that we are not that much behind last year on price..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Willfarman wrote: »
    https://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

    Interesting that we are not that much behind last year on price..

    In theory yes. But cattle are coming 20-30kgs DW lighter That is 100 euro on an animal. Gardes are back a bit as well costing another 3-4 cent or 8-10 euro. Costs are up after the winter and cattle have eaten naerly twice the meal before slaughter and ration are 20-30/ton more erxpensive all this adds another 35 euro/head.

    Add it all togeather and it is costing 150/head. The big killer will be the fodder situation it will be uneconomic to buy cattle you do not have fodder for.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Factory beef price isn’t theoretical?

    I’m well aware of the lack of turn from the job but my memory was playing tricks with me regarding quotes as I think it is with a lot of fellows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Factory beef price isn’t theoretical?

    I’m well aware of the lack of turn from the job but my memory was playing tricks with me regarding quotes as I think it is with a lot of fellows.

    Also prices rose as we moved into November and December last year. We pushed to kill cattle under 30 months in September last year. The lads that didn't make the 30 months weren't killed till November/December (mostly over 30 months) killed 50kg heavier with a higher price. They made the 12cent bonus look like a joke.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    Just got quoted 3.85 base underage Angus Bullock's. Kepak athleague.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    restive wrote: »
    Just got quoted 3.85 base underage Angus Bullock's. Kepak athleague.

    went to the mart today at lunch from work. Store cattle have taken a hammering. only right when you see the way factory prices are going. Ive been buying weanlings for a good few years in the back end but if they are not cheaper this year Im gonna call it off. A store would make more sense. Even wintering cattle is getting hard to justify.


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