How would an attack on Dublin from Islamists change us?

Irish Guitarist · 16-07-2018 02:38PM

It would have to be a massive attack for anything to change. Just look at that thread from a couple of months ago about the illegal Indian immigrant who trained to be a guard. Most of the people responding couldn't wait to prove how liberal and tolerant they are by saying things likes "ah sure at least he wanted to contribute to society".

I thought myself it was highly suspicious. He must have had some motivation for joining the guards that he considered worth risking being deported for.

Around the same time some maniac drove up on a footpath in Dublin. There was a thread about it and peoples main gripe was that the article mentioned his parents were from the Middle East and that this was terrible racism.

Something along the lines of the attack in Manchester would have to happen for the general public to start worrying.

There are already terrorists here by the way. The guards have foiled a couple of terrorist groups. Their main aim though is usually to get to into Ireland then travel to somewhere else in Europe. I'm sure they will eventually turn their sights to an attack in Ireland. I wouldn't think it would be their top priority but it would be foolish to think it's never going to happen.

archer22 · 16-07-2018 02:57PM

lukasgrenwald wrote: »

Legally and socially?

Legally -guards would carry handguns like the Americans. More surveillance in real life with CCTV's at every corner and spying on natioanl sites

Socially - paranoia would run rampant and we'd for the first time ban immigrants like Trump (or at the least stop them if they're not white and from the West). Definitely become more nanny-statish to levels never seen before.

What else would change?

Seems with all those treads on the subject that many people here are feeling slighted by them.

What..what!..are we not good enough to be murdered by you or something..don''t you know how important we are

wakka12 · 16-07-2018 02:59PM

Probably nothing would change as its unlikely to occur and if it did occur is most likely a once off lone wolf attack that no amount preparation can help stop
I think some poeple want it to occur for some drama and to hate on muslims with more justification

granturismo · 16-07-2018 03:01PM

lukasgrenwald wrote: »

I think you have to admit that terrorism from nationals is different than terrorism from foreigners. Look at America and 9/11. They got OKC, the Unibomber by white guys but no one paid attention until 19 Arabs hijacked and crashed 4 planes across the US.

No, I admit that my life would be equally ruined if my loved ones were killed by a homegrown terrorist, a middle eastern or European muslim, a Myanmar buddhist, or any other f##kwit thats prepared to kill.

schizo1014 · 16-07-2018 03:05PM

Some elements within the Irish Government might try cover up an attack like they did the last time religious extremists attacked Dublin.

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2018 03:06PM

schizo1014 wrote: »

Some elements within the Irish Government might try cover up an attack like they did the last time religious extremists attacked Dublin.

what attack would that be?

schizo1014 · 16-07-2018 03:20PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what attack would that be?

The Dublin/Monaghan Bombings
The cover up discussion may be better for another thread

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2018 03:21PM

schizo1014 wrote: »

The Dublin/Monaghan Bombings
The cover up discussion may be better for another thread

that was sectarian not religious.

Captain Obvious · 16-07-2018 03:27PM

lukasgrenwald wrote: »

I think you have to admit that terrorism from nationals is different than terrorism from foreigners.

Not to the victims.

Cabaal · 16-07-2018 03:37PM

schizo1014 wrote: »

Some elements within the Irish Government might try cover up an attack like they did the last time religious extremists attacked Dublin.

Was that when they build and ran the Magdalene laundry's and the state tried to cover up the abuses, deaths and everything else?

schizo1014 · 16-07-2018 03:41PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that was sectarian not religious.

Or it's religious sectarianism :rolleyes:

Hector Savage · 16-07-2018 03:44PM

Phoebas wrote: »

OP, can you define what you mean by an attack by Islamists?

If it was some disgruntled immigrant attempting to run pedestrians down in a car and claiming inspiration from ISIS then that wouldn't have much effect at all.

If it was something centrally planned and organised a la 9/11 then that would be a different kettle of fish - but I doubt that's a realistic prospect.

So this wouldn't worry you ???

Jessuusss...

yourdeadwright · 16-07-2018 03:48PM

I think the people who think American have something to gain from the constant talk of Terrorists are correct,
i read an article where 2 weekend's ago, 28 people where shot in the city of Chicago, that made it 1400 shooting in Chicago this year and its only July,
So in 7 months in one city 1400 American's have been shot ( that is injured by shootings not killed)
Just to put that into perspective, 1500 USA troop have been shot and killed since 2011.
Trump has done nothing, as he really has nothing to gain from these poor black folk in his own land,

corner of hells · 16-07-2018 03:53PM

The price of bacon would plummet , as no one would want to seen eating a rasher sandwich.

Phoebas · 16-07-2018 04:43PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

So this wouldn't worry you ???

Jessuusss...

The question wasn't if it would 'worry' us - it was would it 'change' us.

lawred2 · 16-07-2018 04:46PM

lukasgrenwald wrote: »

Legally and socially?

Legally -guards would carry handguns like the Americans. More surveillance in real life with CCTV's at every corner and spying on natioanl sites

Socially - paranoia would run rampant and we'd for the first time ban immigrants like Trump (or at the least stop them if they're not white and from the West). Definitely become more nanny-statish to levels never seen before.

What else would change?

seems like you're already there chief

statesaver · 16-07-2018 04:55PM

duckofdeath wrote: »

Imagine if the US had banned immigrants like Trump at the start of the last century. Then this "discussion" probably never would have been started.

Of course it would. Was not Trump who invaded the Middle East.

gw80 · 16-07-2018 05:01PM

Mutant z wrote: »

The same reason why they have attacked elsewhere they hate our guts dont for a moment think that they view Ireland any different because they dont.

This is true, if there are people in England and America who think we are part of the UK. Then you can be sure jonny ackbar from the arsehole of the middle east will not know the difference.

Herb Powell · 16-07-2018 05:05PM

Well, as someone from Cork, I'd have to say I'd applaud the Islamists in their efforts to take Dublin down a peg.

wakka12 · 16-07-2018 05:06PM

The Crowman wrote: »

I'd say they'd avoid Dublin and attack somewhere popular with American tourists like Killarney or Blarney Castle.

Dublin is one of the most visited cities in Europe

Stephen15 · 16-07-2018 05:10PM

I think in Ireland it would take something like a newspaper to publish Mohammed cartoons or something that triggers the savages. Something like what happened in Copenhagen. Then it would be followed by the usual 'Islam is the religion of peace' the usual nonsense from the left.

Cabaal · 16-07-2018 05:21PM

oh look, the OP is now banned.
Given all they seemed to want to do is drive hate thats not surprising

Stephen15 · 16-07-2018 05:30PM

gw80 wrote: »

This is true, if there are people in England and America who think we are part of the UK. Then you can be sure jonny ackbar from the arsehole of the middle east will not know the difference.

The enemy is here not in the middle East. Look the lad down in Waterford he didn't live in the Middle East he lived in Ireland

Apiarist · 16-07-2018 05:43PM

I think it would be unlikely for a terrorist organization to send their top operatives to Ireland. So what will probably happen is that they will send their equivalent of Hermann Görtz (read the story -- very funny!), a Nazi spy sent to Ireland in 1940.

On landing, [Hermann Görtz] lost the 'Ufa' transmitter he had parachuted with. Görtz, attired in a Luftwaffe uniform, then walked to Dublin. He was not apprehended despite calling into a Garda barracks in Co Wicklow, asking for directions to Dublin.

Irish Guitarist · 16-07-2018 05:57PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

So this wouldn't worry you ???

Jessuusss...

A Saudi Arabian drove up on a footpath in Dublin recently. I don't think he seriously hurt anyone but he gave it a good shot. There was a thread about it here and people were complaining that his ethnicity or religion shouldn't even be mentioned. No one wanted to know that he was a foreigner, let alone even entertain the idea for a second that it could be a terrorist attack. I'm not saying it was one, but the idea of even debating that it might be was seen as offensive.

Stephen15 · 16-07-2018 06:09PM

Leo's 2040 plan would mean the population will grown by a million through mass immigration which lets face it will be mostly from the third world. Migrants won't be living in Ballsbridge, Castleknock, Blackrock or Foxrock they'll be living in places like Tyrellstown, Blabriggan and Citywest. These areas will become jihadi breeding grounds aswell as being no go zones for whites. They'll Dublin's answer to Molenbeek.

James Brown · 16-07-2018 06:10PM

Mutant z wrote: »

That the left are totally deluded about Ireland not being a target for islamic terrorism.

Seriously, the left? For a supposed minor league set of parties with no chance of getting in government, they sure steer the country :rolleyes:

James Brown · 16-07-2018 06:12PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

A Saudi Arabian drove up on a footpath in Dublin recently. I don't think he seriously hurt anyone but he gave it a good shot. There was a thread about it here and people were complaining that his ethnicity or religion shouldn't even be mentioned. No one wanted to know that he was a foreigner, let alone even entertain the idea for a second that it could be a terrorist attack. I'm not saying it was one, but the idea of even debating that it might be was seen as offensive.

This was not a terrorist attack. So what has him being Saudi got to do with anything? If it were a woman would you be giving out about the feminist menace?

Odhinn · 16-07-2018 07:01PM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Leo's 2040 plan would mean the population will grown by a million through mass immigration which lets face it will be mostly from the third world. Migrants won't be living in Ballsbridge, Castleknock, Blackrock or Foxrock they'll be living in places like Tyrellstown, Blabriggan and Citywest. These areas will become jihadi breeding grounds aswell as being no go zones for whites. They'll Dublin's answer to Molenbeek.

Big leap there.

Edgware · 16-07-2018 07:19PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

A Saudi Arabian drove up on a footpath in Dublin recently. I don't think he seriously hurt anyone but he gave it a good shot. There was a thread about it here and people were complaining that his ethnicity or religion shouldn't even be mentioned. No one wanted to know that he was a foreigner, let alone even entertain the idea for a second that it could be a terrorist attack. I'm not saying it was one, but the idea of even debating that it might be was seen as offensive.

A "Saudi Arabian"?
Was that after they allowed women to drive?

How would an attack on Dublin from Islamists change us?

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