Gay Pride at work

Odhinn · 28-06-2018 10:27AM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Its called freedom of opinion.

We should have that right in a free society.

Didn't you call for "Islam" to be banned?

weldoninhio · 28-06-2018 11:29AM

gmisk wrote: »

That is fine.
Work social events arent for you, it doesnt make them mandatory.
Some people enjoy them and they can be good for morale etc so I dont see what the problem is with having them.

Work social events are fine. Social events DURING work are not.

Grayson · 28-06-2018 11:34AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Work social events are fine. Social events DURING work are not.

We have loads of stuff during work. You don't have to join in, it's all optional. I don't go to most of them.

And the company I work for is consistently in the top 5 places to work in Ireland.

Billy86 · 28-06-2018 12:01PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Didn't you call for "Islam" to be banned?

Amazing how much he has in common with certain Muslims actually. :pac:

Leave it out the usual suspects to turn a k thread about pride into their own agenda about pedophilia.

Personally I think pride is a bit of craic, but not at all as important as it was a few years ago because being gay is so much more normalised than it was before. Apparently gay venues in many parts of Europe and North America are also going out of business which is also somewhat of a good thing, as their customers are more and more at ease with going to 'straight' venus as a gay couple etc. Hopefully that trend continues (as much as the Dragon used to be a really good venue).

GarIT · 28-06-2018 05:47PM

gmisk wrote: »

Wow.
Well that isnt on at all I would be raising it with HR.

They gave out free food and drinks and usually it at least cut into the work day so most people didn't complain. We usually finished at 6, but they would sometimes arrange dinner and drinks at 5-7 and you could leave work at 4-4:30 to get there. If someone was leaving the team you were on you'd have to spend your break at a restaurant they picked where the dinner and drink was paid for or else you'd be called a dickhead behind your back. I never heard a complaint about anything like that.

People with families often had one drink and left after half an hour or something and nobody ever said anything about it, but if you didn't show your face to more than one event in a row someone would say something.

The company really tried to push the we're not colleagues were a family bull****. I can see how if it turned political it would be a problem for some.

GarIT · 28-06-2018 05:49PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Work social events are fine. Social events DURING work are not.

Where I worked everyone really liked it, also rated one of the top 5 places to work during the year I was there. Getting off work early to go drinking was fine with most of us.

kunst nugget · 28-06-2018 05:51PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Work social events are fine. Social events DURING work are not.

That wouldn't bother me at all. It's when they cut into my own free time that they annoy me.

weldoninhio · 29-06-2018 09:24AM

kunst nugget wrote: »

That wouldn't bother me at all. It's when they cut into my own free time that they annoy me.

X = Work

Y = Your working hours

Z = Stupid social, PRIDE, Teambuilding, Forced "fun" and dreaded banter.

I want to do X within Y and GTFO of there. Z eats into Y.

I really don't want to be sitting there listening to some gob****e tell me about how great/liberal/openminded it is to work here while i'm wondering when is he going to shut up and if i'm gonna have enough time to finish what I need to do to get out on time.

kunst nugget · 29-06-2018 09:33AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

X = Work

Y = Your working hours

Z = Stupid social, PRIDE, Teambuilding, Forced "fun" and dreaded banter.

I want to do X within Y and GTFO of there. Z eats into Y.

I really don't want to be sitting there listening to some gob****e tell me about how great/liberal/openminded it is to work here while i'm wondering when is he going to shut up and if i'm gonna have enough time to finish what I need to do to get out on time.

If my work is interrupted by a social event in the office, I'm generally not going to do any overtime to compensate beyond 15-20 minutes. That said, they're exceedingly rare around here.

Anyway, I think I'll head up to Pride tomorrow to soak in the good vibes. It'll be a good tonic to some of the stuff I've been reading by the likes of Dr. Brown on here.

professore · 29-06-2018 09:38AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

No.

Yes he was. You clearly only read the bull**** buzzfeed version of his memo.

LLMMLL · 29-06-2018 02:46PM

gmisk wrote: »

The story linked to is.... 13 years old.... And from a really clearly biased American source 'lifesite'. Also most of the data is from 1997.... Lol

So I would take it with a pinch of salt....actually no salt... I am trying to outlive some straight people...

And it came from an analysis of “gay obituaries”. It’s pure nonsense.

Mr.Frame · 01-07-2018 12:12PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Amazing how much he has in common with certain Muslims actually. :pac:

Leave it out the usual suspects to turn a k thread about pride into their own agenda about pedophilia.

Personally I think pride is a bit of craic, but not at all as important as it was a few years ago because being gay is so much more normalised than it was before. Apparently gay venues in many parts of Europe and North America are also going out of business which is also somewhat of a good thing, as their customers are more and more at ease with going to 'straight' venus as a gay couple etc. Hopefully that trend continues (as much as the Dragon used to be a really good venue).

I think Pride is HUGELY important and must remain so, Just look at what happened in Portlaoise last week, A gay couple were beaten to a pulp by a gang of people weilding hurleys and sticks.

Talk to any gay couple in Dublin and many will tell you that they still have reservations holding their partners hands walking down the street for fear of abuse of attack. Thats real that happens.

So we are not there yet when it comes to feeling safe and being accepted.

Homophobia is alive and well, sure just look at some of the less acceptable comments on this thread about gay people, as an example.

Atoms for Peace · 01-07-2018 12:26PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Didn't you call for "Islam" to be banned?

Islam as an ideology explicitly opposes a free society.

01-07-2018 01:52PM

Mr.Frame wrote: »

I think Pride is HUGELY important and must remain so, Just look at what happened in Portlaoise last week, A gay couple were beaten to a pulp by a gang of people weilding hurleys and sticks.

But the Gardai are not treating it as a hate attack on Gay people. Their being gay is as important as their being foreigners. Any evidence to suggest otherwise?

And honestly, a gay pride parade is hardly going to convert homophobes anyway. Don't get that logic.

Talk to any gay couple in Dublin and many will tell you that they still have reservations holding their partners hands walking down the street for fear of abuse of attack. Thats real that happens.

So we are not there yet when it comes to feeling safe and being accepted.

Of course, they do. It's only 20/30 years since most changes happened. There are hundreds of thousands of Irish people who grew up in a very conservative Ireland, and you want to snap your fingers and have everyone instantly accept your very different life choices. Real social change takes time, for people both to accept the changes, and for those who don't, to die out.You can have a parade every day for the next decade, and it won't change that. Appreciate the changes that have occurred, but honestly, expect many people to continue being uncomfortable with homosexuality.

Homophobia is alive and well, sure just look at some of the less acceptable comments on this thread about gay people, as an example.

People can be uninterested in Gay people and their lives, without being homophobic. The fact that certain posters believe that we can't... and associating everything to homophobia is far more worrying.

_Kaiser_ · 01-07-2018 02:05PM

gmisk wrote: »

Wow.
Well that isnt on at all I would be raising it with HR.

HR are generally the ones pushing it - emails, events etc

Odhinn · 01-07-2018 03:47PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Islam as an ideology explicitly opposes a free society.

Nazism, facism and racism certainly do, but he has no problems with that sort of thing.

Cyrus · 01-07-2018 03:53PM

It’s utter nonsense and generally done by American tech companies that try to give off the vibe that they are cool places to work and not about profit rather making the world a better place

Anyway that buys into that is gullible in the extreme

There shouldn’t be pride events in work any more than there should be events celebrating heterosexuality or religion

TG1 · 01-07-2018 04:49PM

Cyrus wrote: »

There shouldn’t be pride events in work any more than there should be events celebrating heterosexuality or religion

Does your workplace put up Christmas decorations? Or give out chocolate around Easter? Or give you good Friday off?

Cyrus · 01-07-2018 04:51PM

TG1 wrote: »

Does your workplace put up Christmas decorations? Or give out chocolate around Easter? Or give you good Friday off?

No

TG1 · 01-07-2018 04:52PM

Cyrus wrote: »

No

If they did would you object?

FixdePitchmark · 01-07-2018 04:59PM

Crazy stuff.

There isn't a travelers week in any work pace.

Travelers week - bring copper and we have a fist fight in the meeting room.

Cyrus · 01-07-2018 08:35PM

TG1 wrote: »

If they did would you object?

I think I have already made my stance clear if you read my post

Is there some point you are trying to make ?

Eggs For Dinner · 01-07-2018 09:02PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'm friendly and get on with everyone I work with and well liked by my colleagues, but i'm not interested in what they get up to outside of work. I'm here to do a job.

A few of us at work compete as to who will be the first to decline work social event invites. Fastest finger wins. We don't go to any of them and management/colleagues just accept it as that's the way we are. Always a good atmosphere during the working day

Eggs For Dinner · 01-07-2018 09:08PM

TG1 wrote: »

Does your workplace put up Christmas decorations? Or give out chocolate around Easter? Or give you good Friday off?

Our boss bought us all choc-ices last week. I think it was a non-denominational celebration

Mongfinder General · 01-07-2018 10:35PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Crazy stuff.

There isn't a travelers week in any work pace.

Travelers week - bring copper and we have a fist fight in the meeting room.

There is zero effort to integrate travelers into the workplace where I work. LGBT initiatives are year round. The management would have a ****ing heart attack if there was any inkling of ingratiating itinerants into the workplace. The same sycophantic pricks walking around with lgbt lanyards

GarIT · 02-07-2018 02:17PM

I wonder do people realize how much pride holds acceptance of gay people back now. Any conservitave who has brought it up around me was to complain about the few that decide to use it to cause trouble for people not participating.

ohnonotgmail · 02-07-2018 02:19PM

GarIT wrote: »

I wonder do people realize how much pride holds acceptance of gay people back now. Any conservitave who has brought it up around me was to complain about the few that decide to use it to cause trouble for people not participating.

a conservative with a negative opinion of Pride? say it isn't so.

kunst nugget · 02-07-2018 02:26PM

I went to Pride in the end and really enjoyed it. One of our friends works in a company taking part in the parade and so we ended up going to a pre-march event and we walked in it as well. I could see the concern about the over-commercialisation of the event by so many corporations trying to get in on the act for kudos but the positive vibes on the street were really fantastic to see. People out on the street enjoying themselves without the messiness you'd see during the likes of Paddy's Day was great.

HappyAsLarE · 02-07-2018 02:32PM

Companies marching in Pride parades are parasites. They don’t give a fcuk about gay Pride, only their brand image.

LLMMLL · 02-07-2018 02:33PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

But why is over 80% of the abuse against boys not girls ?

https://archive.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/stories5/022804_victims.htm

That’s 80% of abuse by catholic priests in Boston. Not 80% of child abuse. Obvious reason would be that historically priests had more access to boys than girls.

Gay Pride at work

Comments