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So who's going to see the Pope?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,840 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I'm curious if people would feel the same if it was a Trump rally here.

    Would people object if protesters were block booking free seats to make the rally look empty?
    ELM327 wrote: »
    I'd be front and centre for that.


    But I'd have no objections if people were using their right to peaceful protest.
    Trump tickets wouldnt be free ;)




    I'll be heading over to see the Pope.





    But on a serious note. It's not the same. Hating Trump for doing and saying stupid things is not the same as hating him because he is an American

    People are not "protesting" because of acts this Pope has done personally. They are being miserable cunts just for the sake of anti-Catholic hate



    Still can't understand the difference? Would the same people who would protest against Trump tomorrow be the same who would protest if Hillary or Bernie had won? Unlikely.

    Would the same bigots trying to ruin other peoples days be doing the same thing if someone else had been elected Pope?
    Yes


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Well generally an opinion requires substantiation... so I'm waiting...

    So far you've done nothing except prove your ignorance and display your intolerance

    It's got miracles and sh*t in it. How come none of those things happen now that we have camera phones on our person? That was easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭Benjamin Buttons


    pone2012 wrote: »
    On what basis is it fiction exactly??

    Please do be specific here...I am curious as to your line of reasoning

    Can't really put it better than this much used quote: “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
    ― Christopher Hitchens


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I'm curious if people would feel the same if it was a Trump rally here.

    Would people object if protesters were block booking free seats to make the rally look empty?


    I'd still have the same objection, that it is just being done to spite other people. There's plenty of people I don't agree with, or ideologies I don't agree with, or ideologies I am vehemently opposed to, say feminism or socialism for example, but I would rather people see for themselves why those ideologies are terrible, than deny anyone the opportunity to make up their own minds.

    They're not ideas I would either be interested in or support, but I'm not so insecure in myself and my own ideas that I can't handle someone having different beliefs or sharing a different ideology to my own.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    Omackeral wrote: »
    It's got miracles and sh*t in it. How come none of those things happen now that we have camera phones on our person? That was easy.

    Perhaps the miracles are coded in esoteric symbolism and language and you have misinterpreted them greatly

    For one...the water to wine at the wedding is about changing the mindset from mundane things such as reflecting objects...to lucid experience...or flow ( in Psychological terms)

    We can discuss others....but the fact that the majority of people take the Bible literally and attempt the discredit it based on that is quite silly really


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    pone2012 wrote:
    Well generally an opinion requires substantiation... so I'm waiting...


    My opinion is the bible is fiction based on the b.s. contained within it's bindings. It is not factual therefore fictional in my opinion, feel free to disprove my opinion and offer evidence that the bible is a factually verifiable account of an all knowing diety and his many adventures with the creatures he created.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Perhaps the miracles are coded in esoteric symbolism and language and you have misinterpreted them greatly

    For one...the water to wine at the wedding is about changing the mindset from mundane things such as reflecting objects...to lucid experience...or flow ( in Psychological terms)

    We can discuss others....but the fact that the majority of people take the Bible literally and attempt the discredit it based on that is quite silly really


    so the events in it didnt actually happen then? that sounds like fiction to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Perhaps the miracles are coded in esoteric symbolism and language and you have misinterpreted them greatly

    For one...the water to wine at the wedding is about changing the mindset from mundane things such as reflecting objects...to lucid experience...or flow ( in Psychological terms)

    We can discuss others....but the fact that the majority of people take the Bible literally and attempt the discredit it based on that is quite silly really

    That really is quite silly


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Perhaps the miracles are coded in esoteric symbolism and language and you have misinterpreted them greatly


    Or maybe it's all just bulls*t.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    so the events in it didnt actually happen then? that sounds like fiction to me.

    Well no... it's a metaphor... however...one requires a certain level of intelligence to correctly interpret it

    Perhaps you lack such intelligence im not sure? The posts you make certainly suggest so


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    so the events in it didnt actually happen then? that sounds like fiction to me.


    It's quite funny to think that a pair of Penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to get on the Ark.


  • Registered Users Posts: 916 ✭✭✭1hnr79jr65


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    It's quite funny to think that a pair of Penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to get on the Ark.

    :eek::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Also, this God fella... why would he make things hard to understand? Why would he not just lay it out there for idiots like me to understand? Actually, why does he let gay people get persecuted if he's the one that made them that way in the first place? Why does he let kids get leukemia? Sh*t like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Well no... it's a metaphor... however...one requires a certain level of intelligence to correctly interpret it

    Perhaps you lack such intelligence im not sure? The posts you make certainly suggest so


    so i'm not smart enough to understand the big book of fairy tales. gotcha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    It's quite funny to think that a pair of Penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to get on the Ark.

    That's not how it happened at all. The Ark p..p..p..p..picked up those penguins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Well no... it's a metaphor... however...one requires a certain level of intelligence to correctly interpret it

    Perhaps you lack such intelligence im not sure? The posts you make certainly suggest so

    Why did God make me an imbecile so? That's his fault surely?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Well no... it's a metaphor... however...one requires a certain level of intelligence to correctly interpret it

    Perhaps you lack such intelligence im not sure? The posts you make certainly suggest so

    One also requires a certain level of intelligence to understand the difference between fact and fiction


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Christ, after listening to Liveline yesterday I am embarrassed and ashamed that i booked 12 tickets.

    They were really a bunch of soreheads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    It's quite funny to think that a pair of Penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to get on the Ark.


    not only that but with only two of every animal does that not mean that every animal since then is the result of incest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    pone2012 wrote: »
    On what basis is it fiction exactly??

    Please do be specific here...I am curious as to your line of reasoning

    Adam and Eve… God creating the earth in six days… Noah living until 350 years of age… I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe these things aren't true.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    not only that but with only two of every animal does that not mean that every animal since then is the result of incest?


    Sure didn't it all start with Adam and Eve they had 2 sons after that I'm stumped or was the big lad making free with the ribs again. Who knows maybe it's all a metaphor, or maybe we are all characters in the matrix and this is not real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Adam and Eve… God creating the earth in six days… Noah living until 350 years of age… I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe these things aren't true.


    On the six day one, the length of the day was not specified. The virgin birth is a doozy, 'I swear I didn't ride anyone it's a miracle'. Fair play to Mary if she didn't become a housewife she'd have had a great career as a saleswoman. She made up a great excuse and millions bought it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,840 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    not only that but with only two of every animal does that not mean that every animal since then is the result of incest?




    No no.


    Not every family practices incest. I think that might be just yours :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Hilarious the only ones engaging in insult and personal attack are those most vocal about bigotry and intolerance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    No no.


    Not every family practices incest. I think that might be just yours :pac:


    it is simple biology. though i'm not surprised you dont understand how that works.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Adam and Eve… God creating the earth in six days… Noah living until 350 years of age… I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe these things aren't true.


    Not forgetting Enoch who never actually died. He is still alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Not every family practices incest. I think that might be just yours


    You miss some of the comments your namesake made about his own daughter? Think I would have choose a different name if I were trying to occupy some high moral ground.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,840 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    it is simple biology. though i'm not surprised you dont understand how that works.




    What? Riding your family members?




    No. Most of us don't do that.




    Over the history of evolution, it must have occurred of course given population bottlenecks and also the simple fact that mutations were able to persist and be passed down - similar as to how people might create purebred breeds of animals.



    But now it only happens in places like Offaly. And wherever you live apparently :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Well no... it's a metaphor...
    Metaphors are fiction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,840 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    You miss some of the comments your namesake made about his own daughter? Think I would have choose a different name if I were trying to occupy some high moral ground.




    If you had a daughter like Ivanka you'd be still trying to give her her weekly Saturday baths too :pac:


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