DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 04:14PM

Misky wrote: »

I have been lurking here for a while since my friend and running buddy "Aoifemcc19" persuaded me to sign up for the marathon. Now that I have finally admitted to myself and others that there is a chance I might get there here is my info

Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs?

A couple of years since I raced as I don't enjoy them. 5k PB 24.35, 10k PB c 54.30, 2 half marathons at c 2.02. Swore Id never to another after trying to do sub 2 hours on both but did the Bohermeen this year at 2.06 and actually enjoyed it.

Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?

No

How much training do you do currently?

Same as Aoifemcc19 except I don't do Pilates

What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete in no specificied time?

Hopeful that we would complete in under 5 hours but would be really happy to do sub 4.40

How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?

Same as Aoifemcc19

What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any) in signing up?

Hitting a wall during the actually marathon

Why are you running this marathon?

Initially because I was persuaded to but mainly to have something to focus on during the summer when I tend to get a bit lazy

And welcome to you too! I can only repeat what I said to Aoife. Your aims are probably a bit conservative. Enjoy this thread, enjoy the training and you will enjoy the day!

coogy · 26-06-2018 04:16PM

I have a 4 mile run tomorrow with 5 x 100m strides.

I've been reading back over old posts about strides and there does not appear to be any one hard and fast rule when it comes to how they should be done.

My plan was to do them at the end of my run but I see that some runners do them mid-run instead. Is there any benefit to doing it one way over another?

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 04:19PM

coogy wrote: »

I have a 4 mile run tomorrow with 5 x 100m strides.

I've been reading back over old posts about strides and there does not appear to be any one hard and fast rule when it comes to how they should be done.

My plan was to do them at the end of my run but I see that some runners do them mid-run instead. Is there any benefit to doing it one way over another?

End of the run. The way ariana described them in her post about this weeks training is the way to do them.

coogy · 26-06-2018 04:43PM

skyblue46 wrote: »

End of the run. The way ariana described them in her post about this weeks training is the way to do them.

Thanks, must have missed that. Got it now!

Hobbyjogger · 26-06-2018 08:46PM

eyrie wrote: »

Thanks Hobbyjogger! Hmm the date and location of this both suit fairly well, but having just had a look at the course on the website it looks pretty brutal! Though I'm bad at understanding elevation profiles... Have you run it yourself? I did the Rock n' Roll half last year which is hilly but this looks a lot hillier!

I did the 5k myself, and OH did the 10k hence knowing it's well organised! Yes the elevation appears to be worse for the JJ Reddy, but a half at that at marathon pace would have you well set for Dublin I'd say!

juke · 26-06-2018 08:49PM

Aoifemcc19 wrote: »

Anyway here is my info, I think most people's profiles I've read so far are a lot faster than me as I'm a complete plodder.

Faster than me

gypsylee wrote: »

Welcome. I hold the title of being the thread plodder so you definitely are not the slowest here Good luck with your training.

I think I can challenge you for that top honour!

Applegirl26 · 26-06-2018 09:11PM

juke wrote: »

Faster than me

I think I can challenge you for that top honour!

Faster than me too. I'm a snail ðŸ˜Š

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 09:18PM

Applegirl26 wrote: »

Faster than me too. I'm a snail ðŸ˜Š

Ladies, ladies, ladies, please stop. DCM is a race for a small number of runners. For the rest of us it's about getting it done. And get it done you will, every last one of you! Ignore the paces of others. Some are on the novice thread but experienced runners, some are just training too fast but none of it matters. When you get that medal around your neck, the congratulations of friends and family and celebrate with the other novices in McGrattans nothing else will matter but that you did it!!

Applegirl26 · 26-06-2018 09:51PM

skyblue46 wrote: »

Ladies, ladies, ladies, please stop. DCM is a race for a small number of runners. For the rest of us it's about getting it done. And get it done you will, every last one of you! Ignore the paces of others. Some are on the novice thread but experienced runners, some are just training too fast but none of it matters. When you get that medal around your neck, the congratulations of friends and family and celebrate with the other novices in McGrattans nothing else will matter but that you did it!!

Ah skyblue I meant no harm. Apologies if I sounded childish. My pace doesn't bother me. When I began running I never dreamt that one day I'd be here.
The first round's on me!

skyblue46 · 26-06-2018 10:01PM

Applegirl26 wrote: »

Ah skyblue I meant no harm. Apologies if I sounded childish. My pace doesn't bother me. When I began running I never dreamt that one day I'd be here.
The first round's on me!

Haha I didn't think you were harsh at all. I just jumped at the chance to do some attempted inspirational stuff! :pac: You'll do great. I'm really impressed with your preparation. Don't mind me, ariana and Kellygirl do the sugar coating, I'm a bit blunt!

Dubs1990 · 26-06-2018 10:41PM

Kellygirl wrote: »

I know that anybody who has the 235 loves it. Great for setting up workouts too which is very handy. I think the FR 35 also transmits via Bluetooth if you want a simpler watch. There can be really good deals on a amazon so watch out for them. Sports Direct too the odd time.

I have the 235, good watch , simple to use ! Plus not touch screen etc which I find very handy

Applegirl26 · 26-06-2018 10:42PM

skyblue46 wrote: »

Haha I didn't think you were harsh at all. I just jumped at the chance to do some attempted inspirational stuff! :pac: You'll do great. I'm really impressed with your preparation. Don't mind me, ariana and Kellygirl do the sugar coating, I'm a bit blunt!

Your words were perfect and I like blunt!
Haha!!

Dubs1990 · 26-06-2018 10:45PM

Came to the realisation today that I won't be able to follow a specific plan with shift work and a 2 year old . I am going to try and get 2 solid sessions in with 1 been a speed workout and the other been a lsr. I will make up the mileage commuting to work etc. I think that heath killed me tonight got 6k in.

sumsar · 26-06-2018 11:01PM

Dubs1990 wrote: »

Kellygirl wrote: »

I know that anybody who has the 235 loves it. Great for setting up workouts too which is very handy. I think the FR 35 also transmits via Bluetooth if you want a simpler watch. There can be really good deals on a amazon so watch out for them. Sports Direct too the odd time.

I have the 235, good watch , simple to use ! Plus not touch screen etc which I find very handy

Well.. even though I wasn't the person saying it today, but I bought the forerunner today myself..

Oh got my first run in today for the plan whoop whoop exciting day, first day and new tech.. although tomorrow will be my first day trying the new tech.

Exciting times :-)

Dealerz2.0 · 27-06-2018 07:50AM

Someone at work suggested that I should take bcaa’s and protein whey powder to help recovery- should I? Do you?

Kellygirl · 27-06-2018 07:56AM

Dealerz2.0 wrote: »

Someone at work suggested that I should take bcaa’s and protein whey powder to help recovery- should I? Do you?

I don’t. I prefer real food so when I’m being good I’ll make my own protein bars etc (very easy and cheaper than buying them) but I’ll also make things like egg muffins.

Edited to add you don’t have to be making stuff either. Plenty good sources of protein such as meat that you can stick into a sandwich quickly too.

Dealerz2.0 · 27-06-2018 08:02AM

Kellygirl wrote: »

I don’t. I prefer real food so when I’m being good I’ll make my own protein bars etc (very easy and cheaper than buying them) but I’ll also make things like egg muffins.

Are you willing to sell your recipes???

Kellygirl · 27-06-2018 08:07AM

Dealerz2.0 wrote: »

Kellygirl wrote: »

I don’t. I prefer real food so when I’m being good I’ll make my own protein bars etc (very easy and cheaper than buying them) but I’ll also make things like egg muffins.

Are you willing to sell your recipes???

Of course! Currently sitting having breakfast in Salou and recipes at home but google Derval O’Rourke and check out some of her recipes. My favorite are the Banana Booster Bars and the Orange and Cocoa Protein balls.

For egg muffins I just beat four eggs with milk. I fry off bacon, onion, mushrooms (whatever you want), and put the fried mixture at the bottom of muffin cases and then pour in the egg mixture. Bake in the oven then prob for 12-15 mins. Can’t remember exactly so just watch them. Great breakfast too and I make them and they keep for a couple of days in the fridge too.

Dealerz2.0 · 27-06-2018 08:17AM

Kellygirl wrote: »

Of course! Currently sitting having breakfast in Salou and recipes at home but google Derval O’Rourke and check out some of her recipes. My favorite are the Banana Booster Bars and the Orange and Cocoa Protein balls.

For egg muffins I just beat four eggs with milk. I fry off bacon, onion, mushrooms (whatever you want), and put the fried mixture at the bottom of muffin cases and then pour in the egg mixture. Bake in the oven then prob for 12-15 mins. Can’t remember exactly so just watch them. Great breakfast too and I make them and they keep for a couple of days in the fridge too.

Excellent- enjoy the rest of your holidays!

juke · 27-06-2018 09:05AM

Dealerz2.0 wrote: »

Someone at work suggested that I should take bcaa’s and protein whey powder to help recovery- should I? Do you?

I do, but that stems from my powerlifting background. I take bcaa's with electrolytes in my water post workout, whey, only if I feel I'm not getting enough is my usual diet. I make protein snacks also - but that's to keep me away from chocolate.

The whole 'take a protein shake within 30 minutes ' of a workout/run has been shown to really only apply to elites. I'm not there yet :pac:

coogy · 27-06-2018 09:23AM

Dealerz2.0 wrote: »

Someone at work suggested that I should take bcaa’s and protein whey powder to help recovery- should I? Do you?

I actually got a huge tub of whey powder for Father's Day!

Ive tried it a couple of times but I'm wondering just how necessary it is for me to be taking it at this stage.
Like Kellygirl, I would much prefer to be making my own protein snacks (my wife would find that idea hilarious).

NyOmnishambles · 27-06-2018 09:31AM

Morning all

First pace run in a while this morning so wasn't sure how it would go

Picked a sensible pace and managed to average just under it so was happy enough

The legs are feeling it a little now but some foam rolling and stretching this evening will take care of that

Good to have it out of the way early as it will be warm later

I kind of enjoyed the strides so should up the pace on them next time

eyrie · 27-06-2018 10:39AM

sumsar wrote: »

Well.. even though I wasn't the person saying it today, but I bought the forerunner today myself..

Oh got my first run in today for the plan whoop whoop exciting day, first day and new tech.. although tomorrow will be my first day trying the new tech.

Exciting times :-)

Ha, this is basically the runner's dream! New running gadget AND first day of a new plan

Hope you enjoy both

coogy · 27-06-2018 11:35AM

First 4m run with strides later today. I finally understand how to approach strides now but the pace of my run? Should that be a bit quicker than an easy run pace?

Rossi7 · 27-06-2018 11:38AM

coogy wrote: »

First 4m run with strides later today. I finally understand how to approach strides now but the pace of my run? Should that be a bit quicker than an easy run pace?

Planned marathon pace Coogy

Edit - if you scroll to the right of the plan you'll see each column is colour coded with the definitions

coogy · 27-06-2018 11:47AM

Rossi7 wrote: »

Planned marathon pace Coogy

Edit - if you scroll to the right of the plan you'll see each column is colour coded with the definitions

Ok, ta!

Kellygirl · 27-06-2018 12:09PM

coogy wrote: »

First 4m run with strides later today. I finally understand how to approach strides now but the pace of my run? Should that be a bit quicker than an easy run pace?

It would be at easy pace with the strides at PMP.

Kellygirl · 27-06-2018 12:09PM

coogy wrote: »

First 4m run with strides later today. I finally understand how to approach strides now but the pace of my run? Should that be a bit quicker than an easy run pace?

It would be at easy pace with the strides at PMP.

Sorry my post came up twice there.

racersedge · 27-06-2018 12:11PM

Second run this evening and looking at the expected temps.. going to be a hot and sweaty one for sure! I’d ideally push it further into the evening but have to be up at 5am in the morning for work so need to get it done at a reasonable hour! It will stand to us all to get the miles in under these conditions though. That’s what I keep thinking. An excuse to work on the ‘farmers tan’ as well!!!

coogy · 27-06-2018 12:12PM

Kellygirl wrote: »

It would be at easy pace with the strides at PMP.

Sorry my post came up twice there.

Oh, I thought the actual run was at PMP (as per the description on the spreadsheet)

DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread

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