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So who's going to see the Pope?

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  • #452
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I though there was some controversy that he was due to visit before the abortion referendum? What happened here, was the ref set back before the visit or was his visit plans set forward?
    There were a couple of mouth breathers who suggested that the referendum should be postponed until after the Papal visit.

    I dunno why, so the Pope wouldn't have to set foot in an evil baby murdering country or something?


  • #453
    1hnr79jr65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭1hnr79jr65


    Chaos Tourist wrote: »
    Anyone on the ball will probably use a VPN there.

    Proxy IP address creator is also good option :cool:


  • #454
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    seamus wrote: »
    There were a couple of mouth breathers who suggested that the referendum should be postponed until after the Papal visit.

    I dunno why, so the Pope wouldn't have to set foot in an evil baby murdering country or something?


    or more likely so they could use the visit to swing the vote in favour of No.


  • #455
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Strazdas wrote: »
    For certain, yes.

    This will be a big news story....I could see the British channels leading with this and having it as their main news item on both days. They had a visit themselves from Benedict in 2010 but Pope Francis would be much more high profile and more popular as a Pope.

    Yes the British channels will be promoting the Holy Catholic conservative Ireland and portray the country as living on its knees.

    RTE will be fawning all over this and giving the Catholic Church free advertising.

    Thankfully I'll be away that weekend.


  • #456
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    vicwatson wrote: »
    You can be sure as shít RTÉ will be all over this like a rash

    RTE and TV3 will cover this. It's perfect for the likes of Mary Kennedy. TV3 will probably run with Alan Hughes, think he is a pretty strong RC.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    Yes the British channels will be promoting the Holy Catholic conservative Ireland and portray the country as living on its knees.

    Some seriously funny posts on this thread. I had to hold back the laughter with this one.


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  • #457
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    You know reading through this makes me feel ashamed that I also got 12 tickets to be not used (wasn't serious about eBay)

    I complain all the time about the hard left trying to shut down events with Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris etc.

    I'm doing no better here, yes the RCC is a rotten institution, yes this is a colossal waste of money, but people should be free to choose.

    I would have HOPED people didn't go, but blocking them ????

    I didn't think it through, I will offer my tickets to people that genuinely want them - closer to the day.


    worry not; the organisers are on to them and steps being taken.

    Let us hope for prosecutions galore...

    Another news item about "the old country" gone viral :eek:


  • #458
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Graces7 wrote: »
    worry not; the organisers are on to them and steps being taken.

    Let us hope for prosecutions galore...

    Another news item about "the old country" gone viral :eek:


    Prosecutions for what, exactly?


  • #459
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Graces7 wrote: »
    worry not; the organisers are on to them and steps being taken.

    Let us hope for prosecutions galore...

    Another news item about "the old country" gone viral :eek:

    Well prosecutions ? come on ....

    lets keep it in the middle here ..


  • #460
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Graces7 wrote: »
    worry not; the organisers are on to them and steps being taken.

    Let us hope for prosecutions galore...

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  • #461
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I'm going because I'm bringing my Mum. I'll basically be the folding stool/water carrier. She has kept her faith through my brothers MS (which was freaky severe). I rang her this morning and asked her if she'd like to go and just like that a total non believer is going to the Phoenix Park!

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • #462
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,213 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Graces7 wrote: »
    worry not; the organisers are on to them and steps being taken.

    Let us hope for prosecutions galore...

    Another news item about "the old country" gone viral :eek:
    I can confirm this is bollox as I have ordered over 1800 and have received nothing but confirmation emails.


  • #463
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Berserker wrote: »
    Some seriously funny posts on this thread. I had to hold back the laughter with this one.

    What is funny?

    Ireland is still protrayed as a conservative Catholic religious country in foreign media despite recent liberal referendum results.


  • #464
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    Would never consider going but live and let live, if people want to go then that's their choice and by no means should anybody who wants to go be stopped.

    In all honesty though we're a very forgiving nation, given the horrific crimes that this evil cult has committed in this country and around the world over the centuries it's unfortunate that we're allowing their leader into the country.

    People will be quick to point out that we've had members of the royal family over here a couple of times in recent history but you can't credibly compare the 2.


  • #465
    padohaodha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭padohaodha


    ELM327 wrote: »
    I can confirm this is bollox as I have ordered over 1800 and have received nothing but confirmation emails.

    Do you really expect anyone to believe you.?If you ordered 1800 tickets in order to stop other people going to an event of their free choice,then you are nothing but a 15 year old moron.


  • #466
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    ELM327 wrote: »
    I can confirm this is bollox as I have ordered over 1800 and have received nothing but confirmation emails.


    So you got 1800 ? so you set up 150 different emails to get them ??

    or can you get more then 12 in one go ?


  • #467
    greenflash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    murpho999 wrote: »
    What is funny?

    Ireland is still protrayed as a conservative Catholic religious country in foreign media despite recent liberal referendum results.

    Is it really or is that just what you'd like to think in order to protect your victim complex?

    I did a lot of driving in the UK during the weeks leading up to the 8th Referendum and BBC Radio 4 had a very comprehensive series over a number of weeks devoted to investigating the various campaigns. They covered social, religious and gender based issues without patronising or stereotyping. They showed Ireland for what it is... a progressive country with a diverse and increasingly informed population.


  • #468
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    greenflash wrote: »
    Is it really or is that just what you'd like to think in order to protect your victim complex?

    I did a lot of driving in the UK during the weeks leading up to the 8th Referendum and BBC Radio 4 had a very comprehensive series over a number of weeks devoted to investigating the various campaigns. They covered social, religious and gender based issues without patronising or stereotyping. They showed Ireland for what it is... a progressive country with a diverse and increasingly informed population.

    I don't have any victim complex? Where are you getting that from?

    I speak Dutch and read their coverage there on nos.nl

    They went to Donegal and interviewed religious nuts on the No side and it really portrayed the whole country as being like this which is not the case.

    Also said that the polls showed the results would be neck and neck in "conservative Catholic Ireland".


  • #469
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I don't have any victim complex? Where are you getting that from?

    I speak Dutch and read their coverage there on nos.nl

    They went to Donegal and interviewed religious nuts on the No side and it really portrayed the whole country as being like this which is not the case.

    Also said that the polls showed the results would be neck and neck in "conservative Catholic Ireland".

    And? Media skews the view for its own agenda.... Not breaking news. It's the done thing. I'm sure this one newspaper in America was saying Ireland is in hell now. As it's editor sends his babysitter a cheque to go get an abortion.

    It was a referendum about abortion. It was ugly no matter which way you voted. It should be closely contested.


  • #470
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Ah lads. It's a sad state of affairs when one person on their own can get 1800 hundred tickets without too much effort and yet, despite the apparent collective "popular" attempt to snap them up to prevent anyone else from getting a bit of happiness, ye haven't been able to book them all out between ye.

    There mustn't be too many bitter sad losers out there after all! Sure even 50-odd of ye would knock out 100k in a few hours?

    Maybe there is hope yet for the country


  • #471
    BliainanAir
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭BliainanAir


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I don't have any victim complex? Where are you getting that from?

    I speak Dutch and read their coverage there on nos.nl

    They went to Donegal and interviewed religious nuts on the No side and it really portrayed the whole country as being like this which is not the case.

    Also said that the polls showed the results would be neck and neck in "conservative Catholic Ireland".



    It's guys like you who, inadvertently, will revive the Catholic Church. Not happy with progressive liberal legislation you want to hound Christianity, and especially Catholicism, out of existence. Intolerant tyrants masking as secular, liberal heroes.

    You, and others here, have alienated a lot of non religious people who can see through the thinly disguised pettiness. You are no better than the religious bigots who implemented Penal Laws against Catholic and Presbyterians in the 18th century. And ironically the best way to ensure religious survival is to persecute that religion.


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  • #472
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,213 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    padohaodha wrote: »
    Do you really expect anyone to believe you.?If you ordered 1800 tickets in order to stop other people going to an event of their free choice,then you are nothing but a 15 year old moron.


    I don't care what you believe to be honest.
    It's an internet forum so anyone can claim what they like.


    I know however I have received confirmation emails for booking 12 individual tickets and a few coach loads of 600 people a pop. (You can book 8 buses per ticket)

    Hector Savage wrote: »
    So you got 1800 ? so you set up 150 different emails to get them ??

    or can you get more then 12 in one go ?
    You can order coaches, 650 per coach


  • #473
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    BliainanAir wrote: »
    It's guys like you who, inadvertently, will revive the Catholic Church. Not happy with progressive liberal legislation you want to hound Christianity, and especially Catholicism, out of existence. Intolerant tyrants masking as secular, liberal heroes.

    You, and others here, have alienated a lot of non religious people who can see through the thinly disguised pettiness. You are no better than the religious bigots who implemented Penal Laws against Catholic and Presbyterians in the 18th century. And ironically the best way to ensure religious survival is to persecute that religion.

    No idea what you're on about?

    I'm talking about media coverage of the referendum.

    Why would a non religious person turn to religion if they are feeling alienated.
    Your post makes absolutely zero sense.


  • #474
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    SterlingArcher wrote: »
    And? Media skews the view for its own agenda.... Not breaking news. It's the done thing. I'm sure this one newspaper in America was saying Ireland is in hell now. As it's editor sends his babysitter a cheque to go get an abortion.

    It was a referendum about abortion. It was ugly no matter which way you voted. It should be closely contested.

    It's an example of the image of Ireland abroad being of a conservative Catholic nation. The Dutch wouldn't have their own agenda on this.


    Also it wasn't closely contested, it was a landslide yes, so the Dutch coverage was inaccurate.


  • #475
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    seamus wrote: »
    If there were free tickets on offer for a Gary Glitter concert, would you be as critical of people snapping them up and binning them to make a statement?

    Now, of course Frankie is a step removed, he's not a paedophile. But he is the ultimate representative of an organisation which has caused and continues to cause a lot of suffering and stir up a lot of hatred through its teachings and activities.

    It is unashamedly mysogynistic, homophobic and anti-democratic.

    Some people don't seem to get, that going to see the Pope makes you complicit in its evils by actively supporting the organisation.

    So, fnck the "ordinary Catholics" who are going to be disappointed.

    I just thought I would leave some of your previous gems here, for comparison purposes.

    You are a prime example of the modern Irish phenomenon of those who despise the catholic church yet somehow are at every available chance defending or downplaying the even worse inbuilt beliefs and habits in some other religions.
    That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83420048&postcount=21

    You also defended people shouting allah ackbar in a European airport and failed to see the irony of uttering a slogan associated with multiple massacres of innocent people in airports and transport situations around the world.

    But shure that is alright, it could be worse someone could say they were going to see the pope. :rolleyes:

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #476
    BliainanAir
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭BliainanAir


    murpho999 wrote: »
    No idea what you're on about?

    I'm talking about media coverage of the referendum.

    Why would a non religious person turn to religion if they are feeling alienated.
    Your post makes absolutely zero sense.

    All your posts in this thread bang the same old boring 'Delinda est Chartago' message. Only in this case it's the Catholic Church instead of Chartage. Do you not get that persecution is the best way to keep an organisation alive?

    Your banging the same old drum. No better than banging a Lambeg drum, and being full of hate.


  • #477
    BliainanAir
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭BliainanAir


    murpho999 wrote: »
    It's an example of the image of Ireland abroad being of a conservative Catholic nation. The Dutch wouldn't have their own agenda on this.


    Also it wasn't closely contested, it was a landslide yes, so the Dutch coverage was inaccurate.

    So worked up about what others think! Grow up, grow a pair and get a life.

    Are we still in a post colonial popularity contest looking for pats on the back from other countries telling us how great and liberal we are!


  • #478
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    BliainanAir wrote: »
    All your posts in this thread bang the same old boring 'Delinda est Chartago' message. Only in this case it's the Catholic Church instead of Chartage. Do you not get that persecution is the best way to keep an organisation alive?

    Your banging the same old drum. No better than banging a Lambeg drum, and being full of hate.


    Yeah i'm not sure that is a great example to be using. Carthage was completely and utterly destroyed a couple of decades later.


  • #479
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,755 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I'd rather watch paint dry.


  • #480
    BliainanAir
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 145 ✭✭BliainanAir


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Yeah i'm not sure that is a great example to be using. Carthage was completely and utterly destroyed a couple of decades later.

    Yer man thinks he's Cato the Elder is my point!

    Not comparing, militarily, what happened to Chartage.


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  • #481
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    The people deliberately buying tickets in order to ensure a low turn out should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror. They have forfeited any future right to complain about intolerance, discrimination or prejudice. in fact, they are behaving like dictators, trying to force their views and beliefs on everyone else. The very thing they object to many of those acting in the name of the Catholic Church having done in recent years.

    Practising Catholics do not endorse the wrongs done by those people claiming to be good Catholics. However, for them the Catholic Church is better than that and they want to continue to practise their religion and find huge comfort from their faith as part of a more humble church that has learnt serious lessons. Don't be part of that if you don't want to be. But trying to obstruct other people from doing so is deeply intolerant, and a measure of the kind of person you are.


  • #482
    Malayalam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    Baylee Angry Kneecap wrote: »
    They have forfeited any future right to complain about intolerance, discrimination or prejudice. in fact, they are behaving like dictators, trying to force their views and beliefs on everyone else. The very thing they object to many of those acting in the name of the Catholic Church having done in recent years.

    But trying to obstruct other people from doing so is deeply intolerant, and a measure of the kind of person you are.

    Ain't that the new liberalism, though? Antifa. Bomb and violence threats at speeches that may counter one's world view. Incitement to hatred on all available mediums. Utterly infantile hysteria. :rolleyes:


  • #483
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    jmayo wrote: »
    I just thought I would leave some of your previous gems here, for comparison purposes.

    You are a prime example of the modern Irish phenomenon of those who despise the catholic church yet somehow are at every available chance defending or downplaying the even worse inbuilt beliefs and habits in some other religions.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83420048&postcount=21

    You also defended people shouting allah ackbar in a European airport and failed to see the irony of uttering a slogan associated with multiple massacres of innocent people in airports and transport situations around the world.

    But shure that is alright, it could be worse someone could say they were going to see the pope. :rolleyes:


    As much as I've often disagreed with seamus on a lot of things, I think the only person you've made look worse here is yourself for presenting a quote entirely out of context. To your credit you did link to it though, which is why I was able to determine that you're either taking it completely out of context, or you're pretending to misunderstand the subtleties of sarcasm and satirical comment.

    It's an entirely consistent comment on Islam in line with seamus' view of Catholicism. It's really not an example of any inconsistency you were hoping to present.


  • #484
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    BliainanAir wrote: »
    Yer man thinks he's Cato the Elder is my point!

    Not comparing, militarily, what happened to Chartage.


    anyway, i dont think there are many who want to see the destruction of the catholic church. Most would be happy if it stopped trying to interfere in the lives of those who dont believe. i know i certainly would. Oh and if the church insisted that its members (including the clergy) reported incidences of child sex abuse to the police that would be great. Perhaps declare it a sin or something. Just saying.


  • #485
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Malayalam wrote: »
    Ain't that the new liberalism, though? Antifa. Bomb and violence threats at speeches that may counter one's world view. Incitement to hatred on all available mediums. Utterly infantile hysteria. :rolleyes:


    Yeah i'm sure asking nazis to stop being nazis is a tactic that is bound to work.


  • #486
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    jmayo wrote: »
    I just thought I would leave some of your previous gems here, for comparison purposes.

    You are a prime example of the modern Irish phenomenon of those who despise the catholic church yet somehow are at every available chance defending or downplaying the even worse inbuilt beliefs and habits in some other religions.
    Aw, scarleh for ye. You searched for my name and "Islam" and then quoted a post which meant the exact opposite of what you're claiming it means.

    That's embarrassing.


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  • #487
    FingerDeKat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭FingerDeKat


    I think it would be a great opportunity for the HSE Mental health services to engage with people suffering from delusions , not sure if they have the resources to do it properly though.


  • #488
    Bigbagofcans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    verycool wrote: »
    I wouldn't bother going again, I heard it's all the same material. Only playing the hits from the first two albums.

    He might drop "The Tombs in Tuam" and "It's just my finger child". Heard they don't get a great response from the crowd.

    There'll also be a cameo appearance from that French priest with 'Hit my baby one more time'.


  • #489
    lulufinn90
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭lulufinn90


    I am going to visit the septic tank in Tuam and lay a bunch of flowers at it.


  • #490
    Malayalam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Yeah i'm sure asking nazis to stop being nazis is a tactic that is bound to work.

    Oh goodness, that vacuous Nazi trope is so over-worked at this point that surely it is due for a long overdue retirement.


  • #491
    pcuser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭pcuser


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Thankfully I know 1800 people who may or may not be going. Perhaps some of them will need your 12 tickets too.

    THank you, I had being booking 12 tickets at a time since yesterday, I am now just booking coaches. Much more efficient.


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  • #492
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    FingerDeKat wrote: »
    I think it would be a great opportunity for the HSE Mental health services to engage with people suffering from delusions , not sure if they have the resources to do it properly though.


    I don't think there's any need for the HSE Mental health services to engage with people ordering tickets they'll never use in a deluded attempt to spite people. They don't appear to be suffering, just deluded.


  • #493
    smokingman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭smokingman


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Give us an example of how "You can buy your place in heaven with the RCC".



    Go on. Tell us how it works.


    Couldn't be that you're talking ignorant shite could it? :pac:



    Because I can give you plenty of examples of Evangelicals from the US doing it blatantly and overtly. Surely you can explain to me how the RCC does it?

    Frank already said he's giving out indulgences to anyone turning up to this family thing. That apparently wipes away all your sins to that point...
    So yeah, there ya go


  • #494
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    I think posters should stop giving pcuser any more oxygen. It's obvious, from his posts, that he's an immature and deeply sad little person. Perhaps if we all ignore him he'll find something else to sneer and jeer at.


  • #495
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I see the irish times has picked up on a similar ticket campaign on facebook

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/pope-s-ireland-visit-prompts-protest-booking-campaign-1.3544167


  • #496
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Are people really block-booking to stop others going and bring the numbers that can go down? That is truly pathetic...


  • #497
    pcuser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭pcuser


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I see the irish times has picked up on a similar ticket campaign on facebook

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/pope-s-ireland-visit-prompts-protest-booking-campaign-1.3544167

    Maybe someone emailed the media outlets in the hopes of the story being covered and more people protesting :D


  • #498
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pcuser wrote: »
    Maybe someone emailed the media outlets in the hopes of the story being covered and more people protesting :D


    they dont seem to have copped the ruse of booking for coaches.


  • #499
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    From that IT article:

    Businessman Declan Ganley tweeted “unintentionally, hard lefties show why when you make stuff ‘free’ it gets wasted by those with scant appreciation. Without price, you drive massive over consumption by abusers (and) detach supply from authentic demand. Even a nominal 1 euro would have stopped some of this.”

    I understand that Ganley has actually changed his name by deed poll to "Businessman Declan Ganley" so they have to call him that, but I am not sure why the IT quotes his dopey free market bullsh!t in an article about the Pope.


  • #500
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Just quickly browsed over the last couple of pages, and it's good to see religion still bringing everyone together !!


  • #501
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    BliainanAir wrote: »
    All your posts in this thread bang the same old boring 'Delinda est Chartago' message. Only in this case it's the Catholic Church instead of Chartage. Do you not get that persecution is the best way to keep an organisation alive?

    Your banging the same old drum. No better than banging a Lambeg drum, and being full of hate.
    BliainanAir wrote: »
    So worked up about what others think! Grow up, grow a pair and get a life.

    Are we still in a post colonial popularity contest looking for pats on the back from other countries telling us how great and liberal we are!

    Bloody hell you need to calm down.

    I only posted in this thread yesterday for the first time. I'm not hassling anyone or calling for anything to be destroyed.

    If you don't find our international image interesting that's fine but I do.

    You sound incredibly angry, bitter and arrogant.


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