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Are all men stronger than all women?

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I know a couple of women that would put most men to shame, physically, astonishing focus and attention to their physical training


    Vast majority of women, athlete or not, are going to be hard pressed to overpower a reasonably active healthy average height man. If she is a trained fighter with superior technique, then that changes things, but the guy will still have a size and strength advantage.



    Men are physically larger, have increased bone density, more muscle mass, lower body fat, more blood and haemoglobin, pelvis that isn't compromised structurally for childbirth, relatively larger lungs and heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pugzilla wrote:
    Vast majority of women, athlete or not, are going to be hard pressed to overpower a reasonably active healthy average height man. If she is a trained fighter with superior technique, then that a changes things, but the guy will still have a size and strength advantage.


    All of course could be true, but never underestimate the power of a positive mind, I do know a couple of women though that have exceptional physical strength, they'd be able to compete against most men


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,343 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Men that are making a case for some women being stronger are simply white knighting.

    What I posted is not white knighting; it's simple fact.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    What I posted is not white knighting; it's simple fact.


    A 6'4" woman is freakishly big. Even a 6' woman is rare enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,343 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Pugzilla wrote: »
    A 6'4" woman is freakishly big. Even a 6' woman is rare enough.

    All you need is one counterexample to the stupidity in the thread title.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.
    It's not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Pugzilla wrote:
    Vast majority of women, athlete or not, are going to be hard pressed to overpower a reasonably active healthy average height man. If she is a trained fighter with superior technique, then that a changes things, but the guy will still have a size and strength advantage.


    All of course could be true, but never underestimate the power of a positive mind, I do know a couple of women though that have exceptional physical strength, they'd be able to compete against most men

    Compete in what? Genuine question not a dig against your claim at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    All of course could be true, but never underestimate the power of a positive mind, I do know a couple of women though that have exceptional physical strength, they'd be able to compete against most men

    What has the power of the positive mind got to do with a comparison of the genders?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    What has the power of the positive mind got to do with a comparison of the genders?

    men can learn a lot from having a more positive frame of mind of which some women have


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    men can learn a lot from having a more positive frame of mind of which some women have

    Women can learn a lot from having a more positive frame of mind of which some men have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Women can learn a lot from having a more positive frame of mind of which some men have.

    absolutely, comparing sexes is futile, the world requires both sexes equally in order to thrive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    absolutely, comparing sexes is futile, the world requires both sexes equally in order to thrive

    Yeah whatever, not relevant to the debate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    I'd imagine there might be something like a 5% to 15% intersection here.

    Take midpoint of 10% which means top 10% of women would be stronger than bottom 10% of men.

    Ignoring elite strength athletes here just your run of the mill males and females.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Vast majority of women, athlete or not, are going to be hard pressed to overpower a reasonably active healthy average height man. If she is a trained fighter with superior technique, then that changes things, but the guy will still have a size and strength advantage.



    Men are physically larger, have increased bone density, more muscle mass, lower body fat, more blood and haemoglobin, pelvis that isn't compromised structurally for childbirth, relatively larger lungs and heart.

    Yes, but if you have a quick look at the thread title you may notice that this it not about majorities or averages.
    The question was if ALL men - every single last one of them, are stronger than all women, any one of them.

    It's a question that kind of answers itself, as I know I can lift heavier weights than my husband for example. But then, he had a heart attack and I didn't.

    Comparing the guys and girls sitting at the top of their respective bell curves would of course lead to the answer that on average, men are physically stronger than women. But we're not comparing the middle of the bell curve, we're comparing the "weak outlier" end of the male one with the "strong outlier" one of the female.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    I'd imagine there might be something like a 5% to 15% intersection here.

    Take midpoint of 10% which means top 10% of women would be stronger than bottom 10% of men.

    Ignoring elite strength athletes here just your run of the mill males and females.

    That’s along the lines of where I think the bell curves would cross also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Mentally.......yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭OrangeBadger


    But what about ladyboy?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    I'm gonna arm wrestle the woman when she comes back in for the name of science. Will post results.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭doolox


    There is evidence, when comparing old clothes to modern clothes worn by men and women to the modern equivalent that women are getting bigger physically and also getting stronger.

    In the olden days most women were treated like delicate ornamental objects and not allowed to overexert themselves in physical activities like sports and work.

    There was a huge gap between middle and upper class men and middle and upper class women.

    The gap between lower class men and women was not as wide as everyone was expected to work for the keep. Tragically men were better fed in this class and the women often went low on food to feed the babies etc.

    The relative sizes of both genders have got closer together but the body mass and bone density and percentage of muscle still favours men.

    Now that most jobs and roles are mechanised and automated, having big muscles and faster reflexes is no longer as important in work or warfare that it used to be.In many roles it no longer matters.

    Many nations such as Soviet Russia and Israel have employed women in traditional male roles effectively for ages. The refusal of the nazis to employ women at all in anything but traditional roles like nurses and secretaries cut their capabilities drastically. The Brits and the Yanks has women in factories and engineering and transport roles which also helped hugely. This was rare in all axis countries, even more so in Japan.


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