Dairy chit chat II

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-06-2018 06:38PM

Panjandrums wrote: »

There's a tanker flat out spreading water around the site to keep the dust down, it's impossible to keep on top of it with the amount of site traffic and good drying.

Does he work nights?

May have a few hours work here :pac:

alps · 11-06-2018 08:09PM

This boy arrived today...

Now we can have a scientific reasons to wreck the head..

Mooooo · 11-06-2018 08:13PM

23 acres down for bales, the rain better come wed evening, not before it!

Say my name · 11-06-2018 10:19PM

alps wrote: »

This boy arrived today...

Now we can have a scientific reasons to wreck the head..

How do you plan on getting the value out of that?
The only possibility I can think of is the moisture meter for fert spreading.
Maybe that's enough.

Say my name · 11-06-2018 10:25PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Not a drop of moisture in 11 days here. That's well gone from the ground now:(

Went for a drive down to wexford town tonight.
Whatever about my own area getting dry.
It's nothing compared to parts near Bree in the county. The grass has a yellow tint off it if it's not shot out and even that has a yellow tint off in them parts.

straight · 12-06-2018 09:50AM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

A bit of stem milk yield and protein drops, if your butterfat shot up then your protein dropped, protein is the solid you get paid most on.

I know that's the line from the experts but I'm not so sure. Maybe alot depends on your cow type. I'd prefer to feed a bit of stem and top than buffer feeding bales.

Dakota Dan · 12-06-2018 10:12AM

straight wrote: »

I know that's the line from the experts but I'm not so sure. Maybe alot depends on your cow type. I'd prefer to feed a bit of stem and top than buffer feeding bales.

Well there is some truth in that. I know a few men that mowed everything that went strong for bales and now they are short of grass.

freedominacup · 12-06-2018 10:49AM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I know a few men that mowed everything that went strong for bales and now they are short of grass.

The two things have nothing to do with each other.

tanko · 12-06-2018 11:16AM

Mooooo wrote: »

23 acres down for bales, the rain better come wed evening, not before it!

Are you getting that baled in the morning??

Dakota Dan · 12-06-2018 01:01PM

freedominacup wrote: »

The two things have nothing to do with each other.

How so? You either graze strong grass or you cut it.

wrangler · 12-06-2018 01:11PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

How so? You either graze strong grass or you cut it.

And grazing strong grass is better than grazing no grass

freedominacup · 12-06-2018 01:20PM

wrangler wrote: »

And grazing strong grass is better than grazing no grass

No. Bales made in time from paddocks that have too heavy covers will give far better performance than stemmy headed out swards.

straight · 12-06-2018 01:26PM

freedominacup wrote: »

No. Bales made in time from paddocks that have too heavy covers will give far better performance than stemmy headed out swards.

I tried that once. Bales were full of cow dungs and had nitrogen in them. They were not palatable to my cows. I know it's best practice at the moment but topping was best practice before and that changed.

Panch18 · 12-06-2018 01:31PM

Who on earth wants to be feeding bales during the summer.

straight · 12-06-2018 01:35PM

Panch18 wrote: »

Who on earth wants to be feeding bales during the summer.

Or mowing paddocks, pissing off the contractor with your 4 bales to the acre and drawing them in. After a few weeks the bale is like a pancake and it'll collapse when opening it. Am just not a fan myself. Couldn't be paid for it.

mahoney_j · 12-06-2018 01:46PM

straight wrote: »

Or mowing paddocks, pissing off the contractor with your 4 bales to the acre and drawing them in. After a few weeks the bale is like a pancake and it'll collapse when opening it. Am just not a fan myself. Couldn't be paid for it.

Ignorance is bliss ....

freedominacup · 12-06-2018 01:50PM

straight wrote: »

Or mowing paddocks, pissing off the contractor with your 4 bales to the acre and drawing them in. After a few weeks the bale is like a pancake and it'll collapse when opening it. Am just not a fan myself. Couldn't be paid for it.

I'm less of a fan than I once was. At the same time I wouldn't hesitate even today on the verge of drought to take out heavy covers. Performance will be better from the bales than the heavy covers esp as the situation with poorer quality escalates as your rotation necessarily lengthens.

Timmaay · 12-06-2018 02:01PM

freedominacup wrote: »

No. Bales made in time from paddocks that have too heavy covers will give far better performance than stemmy headed out swards.

Agreed in general, you can get away with short grass that has shot out due to drought stress, it still feeds reasonably well, but if it's already a cover of 2k and it heads out then it's nothing but hay and cows will not milk well at all of it. Droughts usually happen quick and unpredictability, the best option is just to carry on taking out covers until you know you are definitely facing a drought. If you have staggered your cuts you'll always have a reasonable few covers in the 8 to 1100kg range that can tide you over a 3wk drought period.

yewtree · 12-06-2018 02:29PM

straight wrote: »

Or mowing paddocks, pissing off the contractor with your 4 bales to the acre and drawing them in. After a few weeks the bale is like a pancake and it'll collapse when opening it. Am just not a fan myself. Couldn't be paid for it.

My contractor must hate me, he has been in twice this year baling paddocks with 2-3 bales/acre.

stretch film · 12-06-2018 02:46PM

freedominacup wrote: »

I'm less of a fan than I once was. At the same time I wouldn't hesitate even today on the verge of drought to take out heavy covers. Performance will be better from the bales than the heavy covers esp as the situation with poorer quality escalates as your rotation necessarily lengthens.

Have you those heavy covers atm.
Have you growth rates to allow take out paddocks. lucky man if you do.

I don't think baling Will maintain overall quality cos all grass is gone to ****e.
It's not like we've got conditions that require speeding up a rotation atm

Must be a fine balance as things stand between taking a hit of sorts and the cost of (further)supplementation.

freedominacup · 12-06-2018 03:47PM

stretch film wrote: »

Have you those heavy covers atm.
Have you growth rates to allow take out paddocks. lucky man if you do.

I don't think baling Will maintain overall quality cos all grass is gone to ****e.
It's not like we've got conditions that require speeding up a rotation atm

Must be a fine balance as things stand between taking a hit of sorts and the cost of (further)supplementation.

No and no. Quality not too bad here atm. Just out of aftergrass and dropped 2l per day straightaway.

kevthegaff · 12-06-2018 04:00PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote:

Some good news, herd test clear.

Any idea how long before ye get compo, sent disinfection dockers and factory slips 3 weeks ago, no sign yet

stretch film · 12-06-2018 04:07PM

freedominacup wrote: »

No and no. Quality not too bad here atm. Just out of aftergrass and dropped 2l per day straightaway.

Ahhh you were spoilt on the after grass.
Nothing can be done about it now.
A lot of tidying up to be done when rain does arrive.
Over a month now without it and a sea breeze to boot .
Usually would have a second cut to sacrifice but this sh#t is way to early .
Fek all rain forecast next few days

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-06-2018 04:20PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Any idea how long before ye get compo, sent disinfection dockers and factory slips 3 weeks ago, no sign yet

Once I sent off dockets, I think I had the cheque within 6 weeks but that was 3 years ago now so might have changed a good bit.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-06-2018 04:24PM

stretch film wrote: »

Ahhh you were spoilt on the after grass.
Nothing can be done about it now.
A lot of tidying up to be done when rain does arrive.
Over a month now without it and a sea breeze to boot .
Usually would have a second cut to sacrifice but this sh#t is way to early .
Fek all rain forecast next few days

Dry as a witches tit here, took this this morning where the cows were last night. Lots of those around the paddock and gone up to 4 kgs of 16% nut now. There better be an inch of rain coming or I'll be putting bales back in before the weekend.

White Clover · 12-06-2018 04:38PM

It looks to me that this country isn't as good at growing grass as some would have us believe. Or is it that we are actually way over stocked on both heavy and light land?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-06-2018 04:52PM

White Clover wrote: »

It looks to me that this country isn't as good at growing grass as some would have us believe. Or is it that we are actually way over stocked on both heavy and light land?

Winter was 3 months longer than normal here.

This dry spell has come 6 weeks earlier than normal.

You work with what comes and position yourself, as far as is possible, to minimise the risks.

stretch film · 12-06-2018 04:52PM

Grazed 8 days .
Driest we have.

Mooooo · 12-06-2018 05:28PM

tanko wrote: »

Are you getting that baled in the morning??

Yeah, hopefully get away with it. Some will prob 5/6 bales to the acre more of it will only be 2/3

Mooooo · 12-06-2018 05:35PM

Feeding 5 kgs here, hoping rain 2moro and Thurs will come to kick things on, still normal first cut amount in pit and after 2moro should have 150 bales made so far this year, 70 of those should be very good stuff. Was on a farm this morning which has been in drought a week really shows what no rain can do to very dry exposed places. Still, easier to throw a bale out in the field because of drought than be liming cubicles because of nonstop rain

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