Warhammer: Total War

ancapailldorcha · 19-04-2018 10:10PM

eeguy wrote: »

Steam tanks are great. A dozen tanks and half a dozen mortars are even better.

I love Steam Tanks but I've waves of Chaos, Beastmen, Wintertooth, Norsca and the Greenskins to deal with so I can only afford one or two at the moment. I friggin' love 'em though. I can almost leave them alone in melee which is a godsend when trying to control a large army at 0.5 speed.

eeguy · 19-04-2018 10:15PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I love Steam Tanks but I've waves of Chaos, Beastmen, Wintertooth, Norsca and the Greenskins to deal with so I can only afford one or two at the moment. I friggin' love 'em though. I can almost leave them alone in melee which is a godsend when trying to control a large army at 0.5 speed.

There's a method to making money to support your army. Most settlements have 3 building slots.
Every settlement should get walls and an income building. The remaining slot should be growth or happiness building.
Don't bother with military buildings for most provinces, just focus on one or two to provide your armies and upgrade the buildings as much as possible, that way you can get access to high tier units early.

When it comes to character upgrades I focus on the red ones first. boosting your entire armys attack is better than boosting one characters attack.

ancapailldorcha · 20-04-2018 10:55AM

By the way, it's part of the most recent Humble Bundle if anyone's interested:

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ancapailldorcha · 21-04-2018 09:50AM

Managed to eliminate the Warriors of Chaos last night. I'd to use 2 whole stacks plus a whole garrison from and upgraded settlement to make 3 in total. My Steam Tank didn't make it alas. I did managed to get Archaon at the end though it took 2 Greatswords, 2 Swordsmen, 2 Halberdiers, Hangunners, along with a heavily wounded Karl Franz and a Bright Wizard providing buffs for him alone. Ended up killing what turned out to be the last stack when he was injured.

If anyone fancies the 66% off voucher I got yesterday, let me know. Don't know if it is transferable.

Remouad · 30-05-2018 12:46PM

Been holding off starting a new campaign until the update drops.

Going for a Dwarf Mortal empires campaign.

Started my last campaigns before the tomb kings dropped so looking forward to going up against them as well as seeing what the forge is all about.

Is there a comprehensive map of all the Legendary Lord starting locations?

Dwarf campaign was the first I played and it was pretty much all against the orks with a smattering of vampire counts.
Would like to go up against some more varied opposition.

Dave_The_Sheep · 30-05-2018 06:30PM

Remouad wrote: »

Started my last campaigns before the tomb kings dropped so looking forward to going up against them as well as seeing what the forge is all about.

Have you say I found the Tomb Kings campaign (both ME and Vortex) to be the most fun. The difference in how they have their armies set up financially, and how they are allowed to research / create items / have a cap on units is just unique and really fun. CA nailed them fun wise.

I'm hoping there's some similar type unique changes to the Empire, Dwarves, etc basically the Old World Races, because they feel a little less interesting as times goes on.

I still find a solid line of Dwarves backed up with quarrelers / handgunners / artillery really satisfying, mind you.

Remouad · 31-05-2018 01:31PM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I'm hoping there's some similar type unique changes to the Empire, Dwarves, etc basically the Old World Races, because they feel a little less interesting as times goes on.

That's what the Forge is all about.
inspired by the tomb kings.
Should give it a bit of a game play refresh.

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I still find a solid line of Dwarves backed up with quarrelers / handgunners / artillery really satisfying, mind you.

Always enjoy an nice bit of turtling

Remouad · 31-05-2018 01:38PM

Actually noticed a very nice change coming with this update

Legendary Lords will now be recruitable when you confederate with that faction when the Lord is in a wounded state.

Shiminay · 31-05-2018 09:56PM

Decided to give the new Dark Elf character a go and then realised that I've never played with the Dark Elves at all. So far so good, bashing my way through some troublesome neighbours whilst sending raids off to the High Elves

Shiminay · 02-06-2018 02:02PM

Bleurgh. I just got melted by a cheesy Norscan army with 2 War Mammoths and 6 Feral Mammoths as well as 2 characters on chariots. It's the first time I've been so soundly routed this campaign, shoulda gone home to upgrade that army sooner. Now he's followed me into a second battle, so I'm probably about to lose the entire stack

Tome for some Dragons and Hydras.

Edit:
Yep, totally savaged...

Shiminay · 02-06-2018 05:04PM

Revenge!

Chased him down and wiped out the army, so I should be wiping the Norscans out very soon...

eeguy · 02-06-2018 09:28PM

I'm fairly late in the game with Empire.
Sent two stacks of greatswords, gunners and tanks to beat pesky orks and they got creamed by 3 full stacks.

Black orks are beasts.

Pugzilla · 06-06-2018 06:50PM

Are people still playing the vanilla WH1 campaign or is it all Mortal Empires now?

Dave_The_Sheep · 06-06-2018 09:05PM

Pugzilla wrote: »

Are people still playing the vanilla WH1 campaign or is it all Mortal Empires now?

I'm not even sure I have WH1 installed on my machine any more to be honest.

ME all the way - though I will admit I'm finding it almost a little too large. By the time you've taken over ever a quarter of the map, you're snowballing.

ancapailldorcha · 06-06-2018 10:12PM

Pugzilla wrote: »

Are people still playing the vanilla WH1 campaign or is it all Mortal Empires now?

I am. Don't own Warhammer 2 yet. It's £22 but I want the DLC as well.

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I'm not even sure I have WH1 installed on my machine any more to be honest.

ME all the way - though I will admit I'm finding it almost a little too large. By the time you've taken over ever a quarter of the map, you're snowballing.

I thought Mortal Empires required both games to be installed. How is it? Is it amazing?

Dave_The_Sheep · 06-06-2018 10:43PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I thought Mortal Empires required both games to be installed. How is it? Is it amazing?

No, but you have to own both games for certain features.

Honestly, it's up there in the top TW games. My favourite was Medieval 2. Next up is either Warhammer or Napoleon (purely for the setting, which I love).

The three games (one more to come) and how they fit / grow together is an great achievement to be honest.

ancapailldorcha · 06-06-2018 10:45PM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

No, but you have to own both games for certain features.

Honestly, it's up there in the top TW games. My favourite was Medieval 2. Next up is either Warhammer or Napoleon (purely for the setting, which I love).

The three games (one more to come) and how they fit / grow together is an great achievement to be honest.

Napoleon is the only one I haven't played. Tempted to start a new Dwarf campaign for W1. Finished my Empire campaign but I don't know if I want to keep going as I've beaten Chaos so my diplomatic alliances are starting to crumble.

Remouad · 07-06-2018 03:10PM

Started my mortal empires campaign with as Clan Angrund.
That 50% income penalty is a bitch!
Playing on hard.
Conquered the starting province and built up a full stack pretty quick so decided to nip over to karak eight peaks thinking that surely I'd be able to beat whatever was there with my mighty army.
Was surrounded by 3 full stacks and had another stack garrisoned!!
Tempted to just let skarsnik have it...

killanena · 07-06-2018 05:29PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Napoleon is the only one I haven't played. Tempted to start a new Dwarf campaign for W1. Finished my Empire campaign but I don't know if I want to keep going as I've beaten Chaos so my diplomatic alliances are starting to crumble.

Napoleon is more for multiplayer in my opinion, and there is a ton of great mods! but the single player campaign and mini campaigns leave a lot to be desired. Empire is better for single player.

Pugzilla · 07-06-2018 10:09PM

Play Western Roman Empire in Atilla on legendary difficult. Absolute battle for survival every turn.

ancapailldorcha · 08-06-2018 06:44PM

killanena wrote: »

Napoleon is more for multiplayer in my opinion, and there is a ton of great mods! but the single player campaign and mini campaigns leave a lot to be desired. Empire is better for single player.

That's a shame. I was considering installing DarthMod for Empire as it happens.

Pugzilla wrote: »

Play Western Roman Empire in Atilla on legendary difficult. Absolute battle for survival every turn.

I don't know what's wrong with Attila but it runs like crap on my machine.

killanena · 08-06-2018 08:17PM

Don't get me wrong, Napoleon is brilliant but I've had the most fun playing massive multiplayer battles with the darthmod. I've had battles that have lasted hours but felt very realistic. There is also an American civil war mod (can't remember it's name right now!) That I also had a lot of fun with

Dave_The_Sheep · 09-06-2018 01:10PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

That's a shame. I was considering installing DarthMod for Empire as it happens.

Napoleon's campaign is grand, I have no problems with it. Empire is larger in scope, that's true, but Napoleon has better unit diversity, looks better, etc. As killanena said, Darthmod for Napoleon turns the battles into massive sprawling fights, really really good - multi and single player.

Remouad · 15-06-2018 02:01PM

Pugzilla wrote: »

Are people still playing the vanilla WH1 campaign or is it all Mortal Empires now?

This post made me go back and see where I was in WH1.
Turns out I had just finished a long victory empire campaign and I've had a great time over the last few evenings wiping out everyone else

Major thing I noticed was the End turn & Battle Load times are way faster than either the Mortal Empires or Vortex campaign.

killanena · 15-06-2018 08:15PM

I hate the end turn times in mortal empires. Nearly ruins the experience for me at the start of a new campaign at least even with the game installed on an SSD. But I guess its just more incentive to start wiping factions out even faster :P

Tony EH · 17-06-2018 02:18PM

So, I've had this thing on my HDD for a year and just gave up every time I tired to play it. A warhammer game never felt like Total War to me and it was a bit of a shame they went with it TBH. I much prefer their "historical" takes, even if there isn't much history actually involved, once the campaign gets going. But, I'd like to see them tackle the American Civil War some time. Surprised they haven't done that yet. It seems well suited to their engines.

In any case, I gave it one more go, this time playing as the Empire. Previously I used to try out the Orcs, Goblins and whatnot and ended up just being confused as to what the hell I was supposed to be doing - not being a Warhammer fan. But, it seems me and Karl Franz get on quite well :pac:, cos I'm having a grand time with the Empire. I'm still not happy with CA's "new" game engine direction though. I much preferred how things worked with the likes of Medieval II.

However, is it me, or are the Empire's cavalry units a bit overpowered? For the laugh, I decided to mash an army together of great 10 swordsmen and 10 Reichsguardmen (or whatever they're called) and so far the cavalry are dominating everything they come against on the battlefield. The heavy cav are awesome, in the true meaning of the word. Orcs, Goblins, Trolls, Spiders, whatever you care to mention chicken out and are run down in their droves. It's gas.

The only complaint I have about the horse units is that they are pretty slow in their movement. Too many times a fleeing enemy has managed to get to the "retreat border".

Pugzilla · 17-06-2018 02:53PM

I think adopting the Warhammer universe was a great idea that revitalised the series. Never had this level of faction diversity. Gave the devs a lot of freedom to mix up the gameplay mechanics.

Remouad · 17-06-2018 05:48PM

Tony EH wrote: »

But, I'd like to see them tackle the American Civil War some time. Surprised they haven't done that yet. It seems well suited to their engines.

Only problem with this is that it's limited to 2 factions.
Once they figure a way around that i guarantee this will be one of the saga games.

Shiminay · 17-06-2018 07:00PM

On the opposite side of the same coin Tony, I'd never have played a Total War game if they didn't take on Warhammer

The Empire's cavalry is supposed to be very dominant as per the universe's lore, Chaos Knights, Dwarf Longbeards, Black Orcs etc are all similar. Wait till you get a Steam Tank or two...

That reminds me, I have a Dark Elves game to get back to

Tony EH · 17-06-2018 09:48PM

Remouad wrote: »

Only problem with this is that it's limited to 2 factions.
Once they figure a way around that i guarantee this will be one of the saga games.

Perhaps. But that wouldn't bother me TBH. Most of the time, I'm concentrating on beating the crap out of a single faction anyway.

The way around that "problem" though is to make the victory conditions tougher, make diplomacy a matter of area and not faction and flesh out the campaign gameplay a bit better. I feel that over the years TW has become too simplified.

Although, I certainly understand the point.

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