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Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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  • #3932
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,912 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Here is the data.

    http://www.abortionreview.org/index.php/site/article/963/

    98% under Ground C.

    Not my stats, theirs.


    Yes but where is the evidence that it is being abused?


  • #3933
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    will anyone now start a campaign for men to have the option to opt out of Fatherhood

    I'm sure some neckbeard wearing a fedora* will talk a lot about this, and nothing will happen.

    *or is it trlibys now? I forget.
    Its an interesting subject none the less,


  • #3934
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I'm sorry but your mistaken Men do not have a choice, If a women wants to take a man to court for not paying she can do so,
    I'm all for Yes its great but I'm simply asking would the country support the right of Men to chose  ,

    Yes and if the man decides to not bother paying, even if its court ordered, there are pretty much zero repercussions for him.
    He can sail off into the sunset without looking back and nothing will happen.


  • #3935
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    backspin. wrote: »
    I didn't vote as i just couldn't make up my mind. But something that has bothered me a little about this vote is the celebrations and tears of joy from the Yes side, and young children barely able to understand what abortion is brought along to cheer too. There is just something unseemly about it all. Whatever the reason, abortion is the snuffing out of a potential human life. I don't think it is something that should be cheered on.

    I’m so sick of reading sh!te like this. You couldn’t decide how to vote because, judging by your post above, you didn’t understand what the referendum was really about. It’s about giving the wimmins the right to chose what happens with their own bodies. A large forward step in the rights of women in this country is what we are celebrating, not abortions.


  • #3936
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Good for you. Other women dont feel the same and they had a right to celebrate the result.

    My statement was in response to someone telling me I was a winner.


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  • #3937
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    And who was in political power when it was added to the constitution?

    The government of the day are the only ones capable of framing referenda and putting it to the people.

    And they did it without outside influence? Bollocks... It was a push by the religious right in general and PLAC in particular in the wake of the Roe vs Wade ruling in the US and married couples being allowed access to contraception in this country.


  • #3938
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,912 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    My statement was in response to someone telling me I was a winner.


    If you dont feel like a winner then dont celebrate. But there are woman (and a lot of them) that feel like they have won something worthwhile and they celebrated as a result. Some people here seem to have a problem with this.


  • #3939
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    I see Ciara Sherlock is having a slight meltdown. She claims the referendum was rigged. Jesus told her it was a 53% No majority vote.


  • #3940
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I'm sorry but your mistaken Men do not have a choice, If a women wants to take a man to court for not paying she can do so,
    I'm all for Yes its great but I'm simply asking would the country support the right of Men to chose  ,

    Many men have walked away and refused to pay. The mother of their child ends up giving up after going through court a number of times and he still refuses to pay.

    BTW, there are already threads open about your question.


  • #3941
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I'm sorry but your mistaken Men do not have a choice, If a women wants to take a man to court for not paying she can do so,
    I'm all for Yes its great but I'm simply asking would the country support the right of Men to chose  ,

    Yes and if the man decides to not bother paying, even if its court ordered, there are pretty much zero repercussions for him.
    He can sail off into the sunset without looking back and nothing will happen.
    But still they can not legally opt out of parent hood like a women can, Do you think that is fair ?
    If a man gets a women pregnant she can abort the baby , even if he doesn't want to,
    If a man gets a women pregnant she keeps the baby and man doesn't want it he is legally obliged to look after that baby,.


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  • #3942
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I'm sorry but your mistaken Men do not have a choice, If a women wants to take a man to court for not paying she can do so,
    I'm all for Yes its great but I'm simply asking would the country support the right of Men to chose  ,

    Many men have walked away and refused to pay. The mother of their child ends up giving up after going through court a number of times and he still refuses to pay.

    BTW, there are already threads open about your question.
    But he is till legally obliged, Would you be for scrapping that ?


  • #3943
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,912 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    But still they can not legally opt out of parent hood like a women can, Do you think that is fair ?
    If a man gets a women pregnant she can abort the baby , even if he doesn't want to,
    If a man gets a women pregnant she keeps the baby and man doesn't want it he is legally obliged to look after that baby,.


    there is a whole thread about this already.


  • #3944
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    My statement was in response to someone telling me I was a winner.

    And you are if you end up in a situation like Savita.


  • #3945
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I see Ciara Sherlock is having a slight meltdown. She claims the referendum was rigged. Jesus told her it was a 53% No majority vote.

    Please just ignore the lunatics. Publicity is oxygen for these people. Don’t mention them, don’t post links to twitter etc. Their nonsense just muddies the waters and prevents proper debate.


  • #3946
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    There's a thread for the "men's choice" thing already:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057875996

    yourdeadwright has found it and posted in it. There are plenty of like-minded posters there to tell him he is right and thank his posts. Don't need that topic here too.


  • #3947
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    But he is till legally obliged, Would you be for scrapping that ?

    As I said, there is another thread for that. This is muddied enough with people playing devils advocate without taking a completely unrelated issue like yours into account.


  • #3948
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    There's a thread for the "men's choice" thing already:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057875996

    yourdeadwright has found it and posted in it. There are plenty of like-minded posters there to tell him he is right and thank his posts. Don't need that topic here too.
    Don't need it because it doesn't fit your right for choice agenda,
    Right for choice if your a women not a man is the feminist way .


  • #3949
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    But he is till legally obliged, Would you be for scrapping that ?

    As I said, there is another thread for that.  This is muddied enough with people playing devils advocate without taking a completely unrelated issue like yours into account.
    How is it unrelated , some men will now look for the same rights as women, its related


  • #3950
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Don't need it because it doesn't fit your right for choice agenda,
    Right for choice if your a women not a man is the feminist way .

    Ah jaysus. There is more to the world than men. I say that as a man.


  • #3951
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I see Ciara Sherlock is having a slight meltdown. She claims the referendum was rigged. Jesus told her it was a 53% No majority vote.

    Iona HQ this morning:

    S02E02-EwvxEjYk.jpg

    "Well now, the referendum was rigged Ted."

    And to the guy who mocked me for posting Father Ted memes in another thread:

    esz3QO.gif


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  • #3952
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    MadYaker wrote:
    Please just ignore the lunatics. Publicity is oxygen for these people. Don’t mention them, don’t post links to twitter etc. Their nonsense just muddies the waters and prevents proper debate.


    Not worried about the lunatics, what is worrying was the air time they were given.


  • #3953
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    And you are if you end up in a situation like Savita.

    Savita a horrible case died due to sepsis brought on as the medical staff did not do there job.


  • #3954
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    How is it unrelated , some men will now look for the same rights as women, its related

    Nah, I can't drag myself down to your level by discussing your insecurities. Soz.


  • #3955
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Don't need it because it doesn't fit your right for choice agenda,
    Right for choice if your a women not a man is the feminist way .

    Ah jaysus. There is more to the world than men.  I say that as a man.
    Your right we share the world with women that's why we should have equal rights


  • #3956
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,948 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    How is it unrelated , some men will now look for the same rights as women, its related

    Nah, I can't drag myself down to your level by discussing your insecurities. Soz.
    Insecurities ? Is there an issue for looking for equal rights ?


  • #3957
    robarmstrong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭robarmstrong


    martingriff wrote: »
    Savita a horrible case died due to sepsis brought on as the medical staff did not do there job.

    How did she get sepsis? Because she was miscarrying.

    What would have prevented the sepsis? Terminating the pregnancy when she requested.


  • #3958
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    martingriff wrote: »
    Savita a horrible case died due to sepsis brought on as the medical staff did not do there job.

    What prevented her life from being saved? Her dying foetus that caused the sepsis ensured that the medical staff couldn't save her life due to the 8th. Life is precious once it is in the womb and fcuk it when it's not...ain't that right?


  • #3959
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    How is it unrelated , some men will now look for the same rights as women, its related

    It comes across as whataboutery, especially when it has been pointed out that there is an active thread already devoted to the topic.


  • #3960
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Don't need it because it doesn't fit your right for choice agenda,
    Right for choice if your a women not a man is the feminist way .

    I've made my points to counter that in that thread already. That's why it's not needed here.


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  • #3961
    bootpaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭bootpaws


    I can't believe we won the ref not 2 days ago and the meninists are already throwing a tantrum now because they can't have abortions. Try 35 years of campaigning for it, lads. We'll wait.


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