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Cost of building a house in 2016/17

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  • #102
    Sponsorgate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Sponsorgate


    368100 wrote: »
    Is that to turnkey finish?

    No , Exclusions include

    Stoves to be supplied and fitted by specialists
    Landscaping and grassing works
    Well and associated works
    Entrance walls
    Tiling works
    Paving to be supplied and fitted by other including tarmac to driveway
    Santitary ware by client
    Fitted furniture


  • #103
    nagsheader
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭nagsheader


    The HorsesMouth wrote: »
    Finished a 2300sq ft 1.5 storey house just under a year ago. Came in roughly at €190000. That included doing a few bits and pieces ourselves painting etc but nothing major as neither of us had much experience in building. All in all we probably saved €5000 - €7000 in doing work ourselves.

    Spec is relatively good..A2 BER. Spent a good lot on insulation, air tightness etc. However a good many of the rooms are not finished..5 rooms in all are literally just concrete floors, skirting and whitewashed walls. No landscaping done either and the site was free aside from solicitor costs.

    When we went in we of course thought we could do it for cheaper but it never works out like that unless you have a trade yourself. Still think getting in at €82 per square ft is decent going for the spec we got at the end despite the unfinished rooms/outside. If anyone wants any other particular costs or any more info feel free to ask!

    We are looking at building something similar to you guys, 1.5 storey, 2300 sqft.

    Did 190k include all professional fees and did you choose to 'opt in' or 'opt out' of the building regs?

    I'd love to see the breakdown of your costs if you had them handy? We have mortgage approval of 200k but hard to know what we would need to sacrifice to achieve that figure.

    Cheers


  • #104
    eire1987
    Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭eire1987


    The HorsesMouth wrote: »
    Finished a 2300sq ft 1.5 storey house just under a year ago. Came in roughly at €190000. That included doing a few bits and pieces ourselves painting etc but nothing major as neither of us had much experience in building. All in all we probably saved €5000 - €7000 in doing work ourselves.

    Spec is relatively good..A2 BER. Spent a good lot on insulation, air tightness etc. However a good many of the rooms are not finished..5 rooms in all are literally just concrete floors, skirting and whitewashed walls. No landscaping done either and the site was free aside from solicitor costs.

    When we went in we of course thought we could do it for cheaper but it never works out like that unless you have a trade yourself. Still think getting in at €82 per square ft is decent going for the spec we got at the end despite the unfinished rooms/outside. If anyone wants any other particular costs or any more info feel free to ask!

    Hi.

    Myself and my wife are planning to build a passive house back home on a site (were in south of the country) I was wondering what was the budget you had for it??? We're trying to get it right from the start...

    Any ideas/suggestions welcome

    Regards
    Eire


  • #105
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭The HorsesMouth


    nagsheader wrote: »
    We are looking at building something similar to you guys, 1.5 storey, 2300 sqft.

    Did 190k include all professional fees and did you choose to 'opt in' or 'opt out' of the building regs?

    I'd love to see the breakdown of your costs if you had them handy? We have mortgage approval of 200k but hard to know what we would need to sacrifice to achieve that figure.

    Cheers

    190k included all fees because we built during that time where you had no choice to opt on or out..we had to get a certified engineer/architect to sign off on everything even though they had little to no input into the design of the house.

    So a very rough breakdown is:
    -Site clearing, foundations 17k (no surprises and great ground for building)
    -Walls incl insulation 23k
    -Roof (which was a cut roof as opposed to trusses) 26k
    -Electrics (done by a friend for a good price) 11k
    -plumbing incl solar 17k
    -heat recovery 6k
    -carpentry incl stairs/doors etc 10.5k
    - Footpaths sewage systems etc 7k
    -Windows and ext doors (incl sills) 18.5k
    -Kitchen( handmade but not including appliances)9k
    -Guttering system 3k
    -Esb and water connections 3k
    -Bathroom suites 4.5k
    -Appliances( including 2 stoves) 8.5k
    -Architect/solicitor fees 4k

    The rest was spent on furniture, carpets, blinds and all that jazz.
    Just want to reiterate the point that we've a lot of rooms still just empty including one bathroom and we also got a free site. Also we could have spent more on Windows/more glazing..so that had to be sacrificed..also out garden is pretty dreary so landscaping also had to out aside for a few years! unless you have 300-400k you are never going to get a finished landscaped house but you can definitely build a comfortable livable house for less. Just make sure you don't mind looking out at kerbless lawns for a few years!


    Eire if you're looking for passiv then you're looking at spending a whole lot more...from what I hear the difference between B1/A2 and A1 is colossal. We have a fuel burning stove and that's why we would never have been passiv.


  • #106
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    some posts removed. Recommendations by PM thanks


  • #107
    froshtyv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭froshtyv


    Just wondering if anyone has used a contractor to say get the house to a certain level and then finished the rest of themselves?

    For example, get the contractor to do the following;

    Site clearance
    Foundations
    Block Work
    Roof
    Windows.

    Basically get the house to a water tight state.

    I have recently purchased a site with full PP.
    I am thinking of re designing the house and to possibly re submiting the plans to CC.

    I am hoping to make some significant savings on the build myself.

    Current size of the house which was submitted for planning is 2400sqft with a 430sqft garage
    I will probably reduce this to somewhere around the 2000sqft mark, mainly for budget and practically.

    Areas i am hoping to save on;
    Drawing of initial house plans for engineer (not even sure this will make a difference)
    Wiring the house myself 1st and 2nd fix. (slow process as this would be done in evenings & weekends but im not in a rush with the build and like anyone looking to keep costs down)
    Install the underfloor heating myself and get help from a friend (plumber) for the 1st & 2nd fix plumbing.
    Supply A2W heat pump along with ventilation myself as i have contacts in this area.
    Paint the internals of house ourselves. (again not in a rush and cost savings)

    My thought with using the contractor to get the house to a certain level was that arranging the different trades men to get to site on agreed days will prove difficult with working full time. A contractor will look after this.
    I will explore both options to see where they come in price wise and go from there.

    There has been some great figures given by people on here with what they have gotten for their money.
    I am hoping to get a good standard of finish on the house for 200K

    Any advice good or bad im all ears.


  • #108
    Nevins84
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Nevins84


    Hi just wondering if someone could help answer a question on building costs for a one off. I know that when it comes to pricing its like asking how long is a piece of string, what I was wondering is there a difference in sqm price when you compare say a bungalow at 180sqm compared to a dormer of 180sqm or full two story at 180sqm.
    Its an idea myself and my partner are teasing out we will be ready to buy in new year but cant find anything we like in the price range so we may explore the building option but I was just wondering does bungalows/dormers/two story tend to differ on sqm price.
    This might be a stupid question but id imagine someone on here may be able to answer.
    Each option would be kept as simple as possible to keep costs down...


  • #109
    ustari
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭ustari


    I believe bungalows are comparably more to build per sq metre as there are more external walls and roof compared to a 2 story of same size.


    Would wait for clarification from someone that knows more about it however.


  • #110
    autumnbelle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Would love a rough guideline on what a 125m squared bungalow should cost to build. Getting prices of up to 300k. Also is it possible to self build now or is this all gone with the regulations now? We had a budget of 200k max. Have site already.


  • #111
    Jofspring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    Would love a rough guideline on what a 125m squared bungalow should cost to build. Getting prices of up to 300k. Also is it possible to self build now or is this all gone with the regulations now? We had a budget of 200k max. Have site already.

    Just did some quick maths on our current build and by the time we are finished it will most likely finish at €1,335 per sqm. Thats fully furnished, I'm in Limerick but I have noticed that prices have gone up since I sent out my tender last April.

    I've gone with a builder and going by the hassle ive had with two parts of the build i have looked after myself (heating and windows), I'm glad the builder is looking after the rest.


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  • #112
    autumnbelle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Just did some quick maths on our current build and by the time we are finished it will most likely finish at €1,335 per sqm. Thats fully furnished, I'm in Limerick but I have noticed that prices have gone up since I sent out my tender last April.

    I've gone with a builder and going by the hassle ive had with two parts of the build i have looked after myself (heating and windows), I'm glad the builder is looking after the rest.
    That’s brilliant thanks, that’s more what I was expecting, we can’t even get quotes back off builders


  • #113
    sheff the ref
    Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭sheff the ref


    ustari wrote: »
    I believe bungalows are comparably more to build per sq metre as there are more external walls and roof compared to a 2 story of same size.


    Would wait for clarification from someone that knows more about it however.

    Perhaps so, but with a bungalow, you have more bang for your buck in terms of less wasted space. Some of the hall and landing areas in two storey houses really use up a lot of space


  • #114
    gooner99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭gooner99


    sheff the ref wrote: »
    Perhaps so, but with a bungalow, you have more bang for your buck in terms of less wasted space. Some of the hall and landing areas in two storey houses really use up a lot of space

    And maybe easier to details for air-tightness/ insulation/ ventilation to boot?


  • #115
    Perez2017
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Perez2017


    I have planning for a 1400 square foot 3 bedroom bungalow. Anyone have any idea of a price if I went direct labour? Builders quoting a fortune.


  • #116
    sheff the ref
    Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭sheff the ref


    You will definitely do better, but you need one vital ingredient..........time

    I have been hands on in my house to date, labouring the block layer etc. installing the floor insulation etc. myself, but I would find it hard to envisage having the time to do that if I wasn't available to do it

    You will also need an Engineer that is flexible regarding site visits.
    Perez2017 wrote: »
    I have planning for a 1400 square foot 3 bedroom bungalow. Anyone have any idea of a price if I went direct labour? Builders quoting a fortune.


  • #117
    shianto
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭shianto


    OK the Title line above is a bit dramatic, but we just got a QS prelim budget in which is 60% over our budget.

    We are pricing a 157sqm of extention using traditional methods (block) + a refurb of 120 on a circa 1900-1910 house.

    Obviously we are now looking reduce and there are are places, but 60% is a big number so I want to ask those people in the know about pricing differences of doing one-off builds in timber or SIP (or other systems), particularly as labour now seems to be one of the main factors driving this price increase?


  • #118
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Recent cork pricing doc for ~50m2 extension & 60m2 retrofit - came in around 250k inc new treatment unit & entrance mods.


  • #119
    shianto
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭shianto


    BryanF wrote: »
    Recent cork pricing doc for ~50m2 extension & 60m2 retrofit - came in around 250k inc new treatment unit & entrance mods.

    Thanks for the quick reply BryanF whatever they pay you it is not enough :D

    Sadly we are in Dublin and OK we put in some luxuries i.e. a large glazing system and upstairs UFH, and a 300m2 of permeable paving (which is now be replaced by gravel!) but nothing much crazy beyond that.

    What was your build type (block, timber etc)?

    Also and excuse my naivety, but what do you mean by new treatment unit (waste water?)


  • #120
    pjmaloney
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭pjmaloney


    Does anybody have any idea how badly site conditions will affect the cost of a one off build? I’m just starting to look into building a 105 Sqm house in my garden in south Dublin (an infill), only thing is the site will be quite tight - long and thin, will this drive the prices way up when I get to the tender stage?


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  • #121
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    Perez2017 wrote: »
    I have planning for a 1400 square foot 3 bedroom bungalow. Anyone have any idea of a price if I went direct labour? Builders quoting a fortune.

    Dont go direct labour


  • #122
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    My advice to anyone building a two storey house is to go with concrete first floor. People say it is more expensive. Its not. Joists, fixings, labour, plywood flooring, insulation between joists, partition walls upstairs are also more expensive to build than block walls.
    And I would definitely pay an extra couple of thousand for the sound proofing provided by concrete floors and walls.


  • #123
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    Would love a rough guideline on what a 125m squared bungalow should cost to build. Getting prices of up to 300k. Also is it possible to self build now or is this all gone with the regulations now? We had a budget of 200k max. Have site already.
    My quotes were 1070euro to 1250 per sq metre...builders finish i.e. not even a jacks!

    If it can be done cheaper its not up to current regs and BER.


  • #124
    368100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Dont go direct labour

    Any particular reason or is this just a general statement that nobody should do direct labour ...ever?


  • #125
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    368100 wrote: »
    Any particular reason or is this just a general statement that nobody should do direct labour ...ever?

    Yes 23%vat on things like timber, slates and insulation...a builder can claim that back and pay 13%. You have to deal with about 15 different trades not 5 as I thought...windows, scaffolding, insulation etc. And it's very hard work. Trades men will not tidy up after themselves as there is no repeat business. It will take a toll on your home life.
    For me it cost the same as the builders tender.
    You will make mistakes that a builder wont. These mistakes will cost you. It takes longer.


  • #126
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Yes 23%vat on things like timber, slates and insulation...a builder can claim that back and pay 13%. You have to deal with about 15 different trades not 5 as I thought...windows, scaffolding, insulation etc. And it's very hard work. Trades men will not tidy up after themselves as there is no repeat business. It will take a toll on your home life.
    For me it cost the same as the builders tender.
    You will make mistakes that a builder wont. These mistakes will cost you. It takes longer.



    There is a massive difference between a self build and just employing trades, you have to know what your doing i.e do your own foundations, radon, filling, floors, insulation air tightness, painting, spend every spare minute working on your house and you can save a fortune, however if you just spend your days Organizing trades and/or laborers to do all this work just hire a builder, a self build for me is getting on your dirty old clothes and working hard

    €90/sq ft is well achievable if you do lots of work yourself


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  • #127
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    stretchaq wrote: »
    There is a massive difference between a self build and just employing trades, you have to know what your doing i.e do your own foundations, radon, filling, floors, insulation air tightness, painting, spend every spare minute working on your house and you can save a fortune, however if you just spend your days Organizing trades and/or laborers to do all this work just hire a builder, a self build for me is getting on your dirty old clothes and working hard

    €90/sq ft is well achievable if you do lots of work yourself
    Yeah your right...im doing a hell of a lot of donkey work myself but im not a trades man and therefore cannot do any of the main parts myself...I'm hopefully going to come in at around 90euro a square foot but I had a builders tender for 100euro a square foot and for all the extra work I would say to anyone thinking of it, that is direct labour, don't do it...unless your a carpenter or something.


  • #128
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Yeah your right...im doing a hell of a lot of donkey work myself but im not a trades man and therefore cannot do any of the main parts myself...I'm hopefully going to come in at around 90euro a square foot but I had a builders tender for 100euro a square foot and for all the extra work I would say to anyone thinking of it, that is direct labour, don't do it...unless your a carpenter or something.


    you are correct also i think on a self build you have to want to do it to be honest (i did my brothers and sisters self build and loved it) at my own now and love it too, but i hate sitting around, and im saving myself a fortune


  • #129
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    What are irish water charging for a waste water connection fee June 2018?


  • #130
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    What are irish water charging for a waste water connection fee June 2018?


    The same as the Local authority charged prior to Irish water taking over. It varied from one to the other.


  • #131
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    Does anyone know the difference between w/mK and w/m2K when it comes to insulation? My loft roll insulation is the first one but the solid insulation uses the metre squared unit?


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  • #132
    jmBuildExt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Does anyone know the difference between w/mK and w/m2K when it comes to insulation? My loft roll insulation is the first one but the solid insulation uses the metre squared unit?
    one is the u value other is a lamda value
    https://www.encon.co.uk/customer-centre/technical-centre/general/thermal-values-explained-quick-guide-u-values-r-values


  • #133
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    Current building regs state that a new build must produce 10w/m2/year of renewable energy. Does anyone know the value of solar tubular panels for DEAP. One panel is ten tubes?


  • #134
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Current building regs state that a new build must produce 10w/m2/year of renewable energy. Does anyone know the value of solar tubular panels for DEAP. One panel is ten tubes?

    Your BER Assessor should be doing this. You cannot get a BER cert without one.


  • #135
    u2fanatic
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭u2fanatic


    Hi folks,
    Myself and my wife have acquired a nice plot of land and we are hoping to build a 4 house on it. We have no clue how much the whole thing will cost though, and when in say whole thing I mean from the beginning (e.g land surveyors,architects etc) to the very end (turnkey finish)
    Can anyone give me a rough guide to these prices..? The house will hopefully be built in the Midlands and would be 4 bedroom, around 1800 sq ft..
    Also is there any websites/builders I could be pointed towards that might have all my answers in one place. thanks in advance


  • #136
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    u2fanatic wrote: »
    Hi folks,
    Myself and my wife have acquired a nice plot of land and we are hoping to build a 4 house on it. We have no clue how much the whole thing will cost though, and when in say whole thing I mean from the beginning (e.g land surveyors,architects etc) to the very end (turnkey finish)
    Can anyone give me a rough guide to these prices..? The house will hopefully be built in the Midlands and would be 4 bedroom, around 1800 sq ft..
    Also is there any websites/builders I could be pointed towards that might have all my answers in one place. thanks in advance

    Have you got planning done?
    If not, engage an architect. Outline your budget. Design to the budget. Get QS to price up before lodging to planning. No point getting planning for something you cannot afford.

    When happy with design/QS budget, lodge for planning.
    Please god, then go for tender


  • #137
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    u2fanatic wrote: »

    1. Can anyone give me a rough guide to these prices..? The house will hopefully be built in the Midlands and would be 4 bedroom, around 1800 sq ft..

    2. Also is there any websites/builders I could be pointed towards that might have all my answers in one place. thanks in advance

    1. Have you read around the forum? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057890259 there’s a thread a week on building costs

    2. Hard to get a website with up to date average costs that’s not peddling something. Every house build is different. https://www.scsi.ie/advice/house_rebuilding_calculator?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOGu9Oq13AIVRbDtCh0EzArhEAAYAiAAEgJJDPD_BwE


  • #138
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    u2fanatic wrote: »
    Hi folks,
    Myself and my wife have acquired a nice plot of land and we are hoping to build a 4 house on it. We have no clue how much the whole thing will cost though, and when in say whole thing I mean from the beginning (e.g land surveyors,architects etc) to the very end (turnkey finish)
    Can anyone give me a rough guide to these prices..? The house will hopefully be built in the Midlands and would be 4 bedroom, around 1800 sq ft..
    Also is there any websites/builders I could be pointed towards that might have all my answers in one place. thanks in advance

    Builders finish between 110 and 120 euro per square foot. So many unknowns tho so its hard to know. With finishes then anythin up to 150euros e.g. kitchen 10k or 30k. Bathroom 1k or 10k.


  • #139
    sheff the ref
    Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭sheff the ref


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Builders finish between 110 and 120 euro per square foot. So many unknowns tho so its hard to know. With finishes then anythin up to 150euros e.g. kitchen 10k or 30k. Bathroom 1k or 10k.

    The shell itself wont vary much once you price around. But as you say. there is 29 grand spent extra there on a Kitchen and Bathroom alone!!!


  • #140
    NCounty
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭NCounty


    Hi new here first time posting - would anyone have a rough idea of cost of building a small/medium two storey detached house in
    North County Dublin - I have been told that it would be c. €250 per sq. ft?


  • #141
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    NCounty wrote: »
    Hi new here first time posting - would anyone have a rough idea of cost of building a small/medium two storey detached house in
    North County Dublin - I have been told that it would be c. €250 per sq. ft?

    U don't realise this now but what your asking is like how much is a new car?

    What type of house? And finishes?


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  • #142
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    kceire wrote: »
    Your BER Assessor should be doing this. You cannot get a BER cert without one.

    I have my BER assessor's head wrecked from asking him questions.


  • #143
    homerjk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭homerjk


    When people get their costs back from a QS and you are working out cost per sq m etc do you include the total price including VAT etc or just the build costs themselves?

    We just got a QS to do up a cost estimate report for us and it came in waaaaay over what we thought. €535,000 for a 240sqm bungalow in rural Kilkenny. Going in we did know that our architect asked for a "slightly higher spec" finish but jesus this was way over. And that excludes VAT. So excluding VAT its coming out at €2,230 per sq m. Adding VAT its comes out at €2530 per sqm!


  • #144
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    homerjk wrote: »
    When people get their costs back from a QS and you are working out cost per sq m etc do you include the total price including VAT etc or just the build costs themselves?

    We just got a QS to do up a cost estimate report for us and it came in waaaaay over what we thought. €535,000 for a 240sqm bungalow in rural Kilkenny. Going in we did know that our architect asked for a "slightly higher spec" finish but jesus this was way over. And that excludes VAT. So excluding VAT its coming out at €2,230 per sq m. Adding VAT its comes out at €2530 per sqm!

    Send it out to tender and see what comes back?


  • #145
    maude6868
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭maude6868


    Can anybody tell me if this is correct. I never drew down the final stage payment of 10000 on my self build. I was approved for 150000 and drew down 140000 yet my mortgage statements show decreasing amounts form 150000. Does that mean I'm paying interest on 150000 even though I only used 140000.


  • #146
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    I have my BER assessor's head wrecked from asking him questions.

    That's what you are paying him for to be fair, unless you are constantly changing items, and he constantly has to alter his DEAP data to ensure compliance.


  • #147
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    maude6868 wrote: »
    Can anybody tell me if this is correct. I never drew down the final stage payment of 10000 on my self build. I was approved for 150000 and drew down 140000 yet my mortgage statements show decreasing amounts form 150000. Does that mean I'm paying interest on 150000 even though I only used 140000.

    Best to ask your bank directly as your terms and conditions are done by them, we wouldn't know to be honest.


  • #148
    Carrickbeg
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    kceire wrote: »
    That's what you are paying him for to be fair, unless you are constantly changing items, and he constantly has to alter his DEAP data to ensure compliance.

    Yes to both. But my problem was trying to find the best fit A-rated home for me.
    Heat recovery ventilation?
    Natural ventilation?
    Heat pump?
    Wood burning stove with back boiler?
    Pv panels?
    Evacuated tubes?
    Flat solar thermal panels?
    Air tigthness?
    Natural gas?
    Solar gain?...etc...


  • #149
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Yes to both. But my problem was trying to find the best fit A-rated home for me.
    Heat recovery ventilation?
    Natural ventilation?
    Heat pump?
    Wood burning stove with back boiler?
    Pv panels?
    Evacuated tubes?
    Flat solar thermal panels?
    Air tigthness?
    Natural gas?
    Solar gain?...etc...

    This is where your budget comes in.
    You can sit with the assessor and input all the data for each choice and see what comes out. Then go and price each scenario to see if it comes within budget.


  • #150
    GraceKav
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭GraceKav


    homerjk wrote: »
    When people get their costs back from a QS and you are working out cost per sq m etc do you include the total price including VAT etc or just the build costs themselves?

    We just got a QS to do up a cost estimate report for us and it came in waaaaay over what we thought. €535,000 for a 240sqm bungalow in rural Kilkenny. Going in we did know that our architect asked for a "slightly higher spec" finish but jesus this was way over. And that excludes VAT. So excluding VAT its coming out at €2,230 per sq m. Adding VAT its comes out at €2530 per sqm!

    That is insanity. We are going to tender next week for a 221sq m house also in rural Kilkenny and have budgeted €1400-1500 per sq m which we are hoping will be sufficient for builders finish. €2,500 is crazy.

    We are excluding the following from our builders finish budget. We may be excluding too much but would prefer to be overly conservative re budget than the other way around:
    -Kitchen - Sanitaryware -Floors -Appliances -Paint -Well -Sewage -Landscaping -Paths and Pavings -Professional fees -Planning Contributions -Initial siteworks and some leftover for any additional siteworks separate to the build - ESB Connection

    Hope that helps. Would welcome any feedback on the above also if there's anything anyone thinks we're overlooking.


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  • #151
    dots104
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭dots104


    Anyone willing to share a good spreadsheet to follow/keep track of the expenditure during a new house project.


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