Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Justin Credible Darts · 26-05-2018 05:13AM

To all the so called religious fanatics and arrogant no brigade I have had the misfortune to meet over the previous weeks , who tried to tell people they knew Gods plan and other such rubbish ..... well maybe"yes" winning was your so called gods plan. Consider that.

Somehow I think the No brigade will believe that and will spend the rest of their lives finding some excuse to complain.
The notion that the no brigade can dictate how others should live their lives was arrogance.

The No brigade can still carry on with their lives and beliefs, and do what they think is right, just because it will be allowed does not mean you have to have one.
Just like gay marriage just cos its there does not mean its compulsory.
Let the crying begin.

Justin Credible Darts · 26-05-2018 05:30AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

It's all true though, it's just you people don't like to be reminded of the facts. I do not think a proportion of the Yes voters realise what they have actually voted for. All the cartoons, artwork and colourful repeal badges played a part in disguising something that really is not so light hearted.

Whether they believe in it or not, it is absolutely insensitive to celebrate the potential victory in a similar manner to the gay marriage referendum.

Wow, you really are one bitter person.

You are now trying to claim the yes vote only won because of nice badges, and then moan about the gays as well.

26-05-2018 05:38AM

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Wow, you really are one bitter person.

You are now trying to claim the yes vote only won because of nice badges, and then moan about the gays as well.

I think you've totally misunderstood that post.

Rechuchote · 26-05-2018 06:16AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

That’s your call but it’s important to note that every age bracket bar the +65s showed in favour of Repeal in the exit polls. Quite significantly actually. The lowest was 63 in favour of yes and it increases with each descending age bracket. Do you think the older groups were equally remiss?

A lot of women over 65 have their own secret history. A lot of historic pain. In 1983, when the 8th Amendment was brought in, those women were 30+.

kneemos · 26-05-2018 06:38AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think you've totally misunderstood that post.

I think he's right. I voted yes because I didn't like the pink posters.

Patronising git.

erica74 · 26-05-2018 07:10AM

erica74 wrote: »

If this is really the result, I have no words. I feel like crying I'm so happy.

I didn't dream it...

SortingYouOut · 26-05-2018 07:12AM

Grayditch wrote: »

I see a lot of people telling others to not celebrate. Not quite sure how you're supposed to quell emotions at a time like this, so I'd just do what you feel, I would say. It's been a grim battle.

I'll be ignoring the harsh words from the No supporters tomorrow. They're hurting. I'd be lying if I didn't see good people on their side carrying pain from their lives too and I can see some of their points being understandable. But as far as certain organisations and institutes go, I want to say this...

We're coming for our schools next.

I think everyone has a right to celebrate the leap forward our country has taken today.

kneemos · 26-05-2018 07:15AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

One big take away from this referendum is get plenty of badges to give out to younger people so it seems like the trendy cool choice to make.

Christ.

Overheal · 26-05-2018 07:16AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

One big take away from this referendum is get plenty of badges to give out to younger people so it seems like the trendy cool choice to make.

I! LIKE! IKE!

Fr_Dougal · 26-05-2018 07:21AM

I hope they redo that Repeal mural now as a work of art, it was class.

HONKEY TONK · 26-05-2018 07:21AM

SortingYouOut wrote: »

I think everyone has a right to celebrate the leap forward our country has taken today.

I voted to repeal the 8th but I don’t understand why people would want to celebrate this referendum.

Rechuchote · 26-05-2018 07:26AM

Not celebrating a win, but quietly celebrating a better choice of healthcare for women.

If I were a young woman of childbearing age and I became pregnant in circumstances where I just couldn't keep and raise a child, yesterday, I would not have dared to go to my doctor. He's a good doctor, compassionate and intelligent - but I don't know what his opinions are.

And if he were to help and advise me in getting an abortion - yesterday - both he and I could face a 14-year sentence. That is in Irish law.

From today, I could go and get compassionate advice - which would inevitably include a gentle examination of ways that it might be possible to keep and raise a baby, and if not, genuine healthcare.

Not a secret pill and blood and pain and fear in the toilet of my flat, or a journey abroad and a torn journey home, writhing with pain and unable to cry or to tell anyone.

tigger123 · 26-05-2018 07:27AM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

I voted to repeal the 8th but I don’t understand why people would want to celebrate this referendum.

The referendum result isn't just about the 8th, it's about where we were previously as a country and where we are now.

We're moving to a more liberal mindset, so yeah, I know what you mean about not celebrating the abortion issue, but it's kinda bigger than that too.

Panthro · 26-05-2018 07:30AM

So I said "that Spud isn't peeled right, do it again". "What, all of them?!" She asked. "No" says I. "Just repeal the 8th".... Wacka wacka!

erica74 · 26-05-2018 07:31AM

People won't be celebrating abortion, they will be celebrating freedom of choice for women. Choice is always something to celebrate.

Cork Lass · 26-05-2018 07:32AM

realitykeeper wrote: »

You won`t have to wait much longer.

Divorce, abortion, gay marriage: Sounds like the last days of Sodom and Gomorrah

Really?, to me it sounds great. People are finally being accepted for what they are, there’s no more having to remain in a loveless/violent marriage and women will be able to choose what to do with their own bodies. Why would anyone want it any other way?

Rechuchote · 26-05-2018 07:37AM

I've always thought Sodom and Gomorrah got a bit of a rough press.

I mean, Lot seems a creep of the first order. Read the firsthand account:

19 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

("Know" in the biblical sense, means to have sex with.)

HONKEY TONK · 26-05-2018 07:44AM

erica74 wrote: »

People won't be celebrating abortion, they will be celebrating freedom of choice for women. Choice is always something to celebrate.

I didn’t vote yes for abortion to be used like a late morning after pill either.

I would hope that the Governments legislation will be enough to deter people from abusing this change.

kneemos · 26-05-2018 07:49AM

Rechuchote wrote: »

I've always thought Sodom and Gomorrah got a bit of a rough press.

I mean, Lot seems a creep of the first order. Read the firsthand account:

("Know" in the biblical sense, means to have sex with.)

The Vatican is the modern day Sodom by all accounts.

Mountainsandh · 26-05-2018 07:49AM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

If only it were that black and white.
Lets see what legislation goes through the Dail.
And more to the point lets see what future Dails introduce.
The fate of unborn children will now be left in the hands of politicians many of whom would sell there mother and grandmother to get into power. Anyone who trusts Irish policians is a fool.

No. It'll be in the hands of the woman who's carrying a foetus, as it should be. The woman will not do as the politicians tell her, but she will avail of legal options as she sees fit, if the need ever arises in her life.

Cork Lass · 26-05-2018 07:50AM

erica74 wrote: »

People won't be celebrating abortion, they will be celebrating freedom of choice for women. Choice is always something to celebrate.

Agreed. I’m not pro abortion at all but voted yes so that other women who may be faced with a very difficult situation will at least have a choice. Who am I to deny anyone that?

erica74 · 26-05-2018 07:51AM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

I didn’t vote yes for abortion to be used like a late morning after pill either.

I would hope that the Governments legislation will be enough to deter people from abusing this change.

Pretty poor opinion of women you have there.

The same people who were saying "once the yes vote wins the government won't roll back on the proposed legislation" are now the people saying "well we'll see what legislation goes through". Why have you changed you tune? Many yes voters said from the beginning, vote yes for change and then lobby your politicians on what you would like the new laws to be.

sydthebeat · 26-05-2018 07:53AM

Cork Lass wrote: »

Agreed. I’m not pro abortion at all but voted yes so that other women who may be faced with a very difficult situation will at least have a choice. Who am I to deny anyone that?

That is the crux of the matter in one concise nutshell.

Thank you.

YbFocus · 26-05-2018 07:54AM

This morning I am celebrating.

Not for abortion, but for a more modern Ireland.

For a country that has a proper view on women's health.

For a country that looked through all the lies the no side plastered across our country that we were good enough to see through.

But mostly so I know that nobody else has to go through what myself and my partner went through only 6 months ago in another country.

I am celebrating that.

tvc15 · 26-05-2018 07:54AM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

I didn’t vote yes for abortion to be used like a late morning after pill either.

I would hope that the Governments legislation will be enough to deter people from abusing this change.

If the vote is as overwhelming as it seems (people might be surprised) then the government absolutely have to go through with 12 weeks unrestricted and allow for ffa etc after. Don't pretend like people were fooled by trendy badges, that's exactly the type of weaseling that is meant to belittle young people and women who will actually be affected by the legislation

People in this country do not see prevention of abortion as more important than a woman's choice anymore so we can't make them jump through unnecessary hoops to get what we now agree is their right

lawred2 · 26-05-2018 07:57AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Because it’s the cool trendy choice. Think of the photo ops in dublin castle later on. Think of the badges...badges as far as the eye can see. And stickers too! Wow!!

Do you want a saucer of milk with that?

PopePalpatine · 26-05-2018 07:58AM

So, when are the No side going to admit they wouldn't support the "hard cases" (rape/incest, FFA) anyway? I'm giving it an hour after the result is announced.

HONKEY TONK · 26-05-2018 08:01AM

erica74 wrote: »

Pretty poor opinion of women you have there.

No I don’t. I want to make sure that abortion is not abused.

I believe it very naive to think otherwise.

Harry Palmr · 26-05-2018 08:05AM

Listening to the rte news on the background poll details shows the No side was never going to win this referendum.

26-05-2018 08:05AM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

No I don’t. I want to make sure that abortion is not abused.

I believe it very naive to think otherwise.

How do you abuse abortion?

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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