Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

21-05-2018 03:53PM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Sooner or later all that piece of dirt deserved was a bullet.
I'm sure the poor girl was already dead before they shot the c%#t. So the shooter did this country a favour. Let no one give this Garda any grief. Give him a medal.

The only thing I regret is that the man has been spared accounting for himself in a court and to his family. If there was a truly genuine psychiatric cause, not of his making, he will never get a hearing. I think of his children in future years when thinking back on the father they never knew, that they would have no accountability. More than anything, Jastine’s Parents will never have the opportunity to face her killer in court and be made account for his evil deed.

Missix · 21-05-2018 03:54PM

This is so,so sad for both families.The parents who have lost their child forever,and the murderers family who will be tainted for generations for having a scumbag like that in their family.

It certainly sounded like a very impulsive crime,broad daylight and spotted by at least 2 parties so no attempt to be ..well,cautious for the want of a better word.Makes me wonder 2 things...A)was he under the influence of something or B)Did he think he was grabbing a child (she was tiny) and then panic when he realised she was an adult?

More information will come out in the coming days,no doubt.But God love the innocents dragged into this nightmare

Wanderer78 · 21-05-2018 03:55PM

Time wrote: »

I suppose you think Alan Hawe was just a good family man who “snapped” too :rolleyes:

since i dont know him, id have to say, i dont know

Ash.J.Williams · 21-05-2018 03:56PM

chicorytip wrote: »

Indeed. Who knows? The man may well have been suffering from severe mental illness (psychosis) so it would be unwise to pass judgement given that nothing is yet known about his background or character.

He was suffering from being a sex offender

Sin City · 21-05-2018 03:57PM

Missix wrote: »

This is so,so sad for both families.The parents who have lost their child forever,and the murderers family who will be tainted for generations for having a scumbag like that in their family.

It certainly sounded like a very impulsive crime,broad daylight and spotted by at least 2 parties so no attempt to be ..well,cautious for the want of a better word.Makes me wonder 2 things...A)was he under the influence of something or B)Did he think he was grabbing a child (she was tiny) and then panic when he realised she was an adult?

More information will come out in the coming days,no doubt.But God love the innocents dragged into this nightmare

Who knows what was motivating him
Iv heard stories he was a sex trafficker
or he wanted a female slave
or he thought she was a child

Mostly wild speculations but Im afraid we may never know

21-05-2018 03:57PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Where'd you get this information from that they waited for daybreak? Do you know when the body was left at site? Was it Saturday? Or did he move it there and dump it on Sunday?
Interested to know as you seem to have this information that the guards don't.

No one knows, she could have been dead and dumped within an hour. The two sites are a few km's from each other.

Like poor Karen Buckley in Glasgow, she was killed minutes or moments after abduction and disposed of next day or so.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-05-2018 04:01PM

The frightening thing about this for me is the single report of the abduction. A relatively busy time of the day in the middle of a city and a surfeit of technology and only one report of this happening.

21-05-2018 04:02PM

Goodness knows, has he killed other girls? Poor Jastine was “foreign”;, are there any other non-national girls missing whose parents might not realise their daughter is missing, whose work-place assumes others know where they are etc, I wonder?

ED E · 21-05-2018 04:02PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

The frightening thing about this for me is the single report of the abduction. A relatively busy time of the day in the middle of a city and a surfeit of technology and only one report of this happening.

Middle of a city? Unless I'm mistaken she was very much not in the middle of a city.

Alun · 21-05-2018 04:03PM

ED E wrote: »

Middle of a city? Unless I'm mistaken she was very much not in the middle of a city.

Indeed, the outskirts of a small village hardly a bastion of covert surveillance and CCTV cameras!

thomas 123 · 21-05-2018 04:04PM

It was in a bit of a weird spot from the image they showed on the news. Main road with footpath and lots of grass, looked semi-rural.

Synode · 21-05-2018 04:04PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

It was a built up area with plenty of housing.

The road she was kidnapped is not a built up area

Alun · 21-05-2018 04:05PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

It was in a bit of a weird spot from the image they showed on the news. Main road with footpath and lots of grass, looked semi-rural.

The abduction apparently took place here, just outside Enniskerry by the entrance to Powerscourt house and gardens.

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.1882274,-6.1697703,3a,75y,338.81h,87.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUfnow6n5HN4OnNWjSsiagw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUfnow6n5HN4OnNWjSsiagw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D330.38266%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Beechwoodspark · 21-05-2018 04:05PM

Truly shocking and tragic. RIP Jastine Valdez.

BarryD2 · 21-05-2018 04:06PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Imagine being the search team trying to recover the body at the moment. Apparently they cant even get to it physically yet

Reported as being about 50 metres in from the road, so dare say they could get to very quickly if they wanted. Delays likely due to need to gather evidence.

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 04:06PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

The frightening thing about this for me is the single report of the abduction. A relatively busy time of the day in the middle of a city and a surfeit of technology and only one report of this happening.

Hardly anywhere close to being described as the middle of the city where he abducted her. Where do you think it was? I was thankful and surprised at the time that the incident was spotted where it happened

wellwhynot · 21-05-2018 04:06PM

So very sad. What a waste of a life. I know people who know Mark Hennessy and they seem to have a lot more information than seems to be in the press. I am not going to say it here but if true I am sure it will come out over the coming days. My thoughts are with the poor innocent woman he murdered and her family.

21-05-2018 04:06PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

The frightening thing about this for me is the single report of the abduction. A relatively busy time of the day in the middle of a city and a surfeit of technology and only one report of this happening.

The small section of road is quite dark with trees, quite narrow, and any time I driven by on my way to Powerscourt my eyes are focused on looking for traffic coming round corners near Enniskerry village. I could imagine myself missing the moment where that happened.

iamwhoiam · 21-05-2018 04:07PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

The frightening thing about this for me is the single report of the abduction. A relatively busy time of the day in the middle of a city and a surfeit of technology and only one report of this happening.

It wasnt in the middle of a city ? It was outside a village in Wicklow on a country road .

Alun · 21-05-2018 04:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The small section of road is quite dark with trees, quite narrow, and any time I driven by on my way to Powerscourt my eyes are focused on looking for traffic coming round corners near Enniskerry village. I could imagine myself missing the moment where that happened.

You do get quite a few tourists walking up the hill out of Enniskerry up to Powerscourt or vice versa plus there's a school and a church very near by, so it's not completely deserted. The road does get very narrow further on past the Powerscourt entrance though.

21-05-2018 04:09PM

Missix wrote: »

This is so,so sad for both families.The parents who have lost their child forever,and the murderers family who will be tainted for generations for having a scumbag like that in their family.

It certainly sounded like a very impulsive crime,broad daylight and spotted by at least 2 parties so no attempt to be ..well,cautious for the want of a better word.Makes me wonder 2 things...A)was he under the influence of something or B)Did he think he was grabbing a child (she was tiny) and then panic when he realised she was an adult?

More information will come out in the coming days,no doubt.But God love the innocents dragged into this nightmare

could be the case! The guards will go through his online history with a fine tooth comb and this could well turn out to be a possibility or probability.

seamus · 21-05-2018 04:10PM

BarryD2 wrote: »

Reported as being about 50 metres in from the road, so dare say they could get to very quickly if they wanted. Delays likely due to need to gather evidence.

Yep. The entire scene needs to be examined. If they go in and collect her they could end up walking on and destroying evidence. Although he's dead, it's still a crime scene which requires investigation to determine what happened, ensure that it was him and to rule out the involvement of anyone else.

sillysocks · 21-05-2018 04:11PM

They mentioned on the news she worked in a restaurant in Bray where he lived. I’d wonder whether there was any interaction there that annoyed him and he went to find her. Horrendous for her poor parents, and also for his wife and kids.

Beechwoodspark · 21-05-2018 04:12PM

sillysocks wrote: »

They mentioned on the news she worked in a restaurant in Bray where he lived. I’d wonder whether there was any interaction there that annoyed him and he went to find her. Horrendous for her poor parents, and also for his wife and kids.

God knows. It’s scary if it was truly random but whether it was or not doesn’t really matter for the poor girl at this stage. Horrendous.

BarryD2 · 21-05-2018 04:12PM

Alun wrote: »

You do get quite a few tourists walking up the hill out of Enniskerry up to Powerscourt or vice versa plus there's a school and a church very near by, so it's not completely deserted. The road does get very narrow further on past the Powerscourt entrance though.

Indeed, it's a busy enough road. Regular traffic on it. You'd think it'd be quite safe to walk on from an abduction point of view, notwithstanding the danger from passing cars.

5star02707 · 21-05-2018 04:17PM

Video of the man, looks very disturbed

https://twitter.com/mulvey1980/status/998596977905586176?s=07

Hurrache · 21-05-2018 04:20PM

5star02707 wrote: »

Video of the man, looks very disturbed

Ah c'mon. I'm sure he was, but that video is just an awkward video of a guy who didn't really feel that comfortable taking part in a sales pitch, like most of us.

Bob Harris · 21-05-2018 04:22PM

5star02707 wrote: »

Video of the man, looks very disturbed

https://twitter.com/mulvey1980/status/998596977905586176?s=07

I don't think you'd have said that if it wasn't for knowing what he did.

recyclops · 21-05-2018 04:23PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Ah c'mon. I'm sure he was, but that video is just an awkward video of a guy who didn't really feel that comfortable taking part in a sales pitch, like most of us.

yeah my phone is hopping with this and another video of him out, i am watching neither as both will be taken out of context completely

all that video is now is unlucky advertising for windsor herbert

spakman · 21-05-2018 04:23PM

5star02707 wrote: »

Video of the man, looks very disturbed

https://twitter.com/mulvey1980/status/998596977905586176?s=07

That tells you nothing. It's a guy looking a bit awkward/tense which I probably would be too if a car salesman started recording me asking about a car if I knew fck all about motors.

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