The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

wexie wrote: »

Congratulations!!!

Ah cheers...I havent asked him yet...but holiday coming up

Monkey09 wrote: »

Just because something is done off the island of Ireland doesn't mean it should be done here. Prostitution is legal in Amsterdam. Should it be legalised here for that reason?

Where's the constitutionally protected right for Irish citizens to travel to procure prostitution services abroad?
As is the case with the 13th and 14th amendment?

pone2012 wrote: »

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

Actually, that's what I'm currently doing, but I don't for one second believe that the risk is gone.

Your "point" is crazy.

Yes because asking someone to practice A little restraint is crazy

Id argue unintentionally creating a life then terminating it is crazy

My way involves a little restriction, careful planning and both individuals life which has no impact on anyone else

Your way is self interest which actually impacts both individuals initially, on top of creating and killing an in utero baby

And I'm the crazy one??

Reread the above and move past the conditioned indulgent "me me me" perspective...it's reminiscent of the egocentricity that permeates modern Ireland

Your way involves two people never, ever, ever having sex ever until about the age of 60, since no contraception, even when using every method available at the same time, is 100% effective.

Neyite wrote: »

Name 4 contraceptive methods a couple can safely combine.

Gladly

Condom
Bar/pill/patch
Cervical cap
Withdrawal

You can add the natural cycle method too for 5...but that's asking too much restraint for most



Feel free to dig around here

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

Same reason you wouldn’t double bag your junk.

Ooh Matron!

SusieBlue wrote: »

The question is whether we want to regulate, supervise and restrict it, or if we want to continue exporting the problem, pretending it isn't happening.
This isn't going to go away.

Again I'm just playing devils advocate here but what other "crimes" would you normalize because they will happen anyway?

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Surprisingly not as hazard-free as ppl think, as there is a possibility of spillage from the bum to the area of the virgina, and sperm in that area is not recommended.

wexie wrote: »

Thanks I could use a good giggle

Ha ha no worries...I am here all week

suicide_circus wrote: »

Again I'm just playing devils advocate here but what other "crimes" would you normalize because they will happen anyway?

I'm not advocating repeal because its happening anyway.
I'm advocating it because the requirement to travel makes it dangerous and unsafe.

We don't die from lack of prostitution services. Women have died from lack of abortion.

We are a nation of hypocrites to have the right to travel in our constitution. Typical "not in my backyard" type attitude. Its the height of hypocrisy.

Leroy42 wrote: »

Fine, but what is the solution?

Vote No and what is currently happen will continue to happen? You are prepared to vote that every year 3k+ woman will have to travel abroad because you demand that we won't deal with it?

This has nothing to do with other countries allowing it, it has to do with what is right and wrong.

If something is legal, the numbers requesting the service will increase. When something is legal, people tend to believe it is right. If abortion was introduced In Ireland, the number of women requesting this service would increase dramatically. Abortion was introduced in the UK to solve the problem of back street abortions, it was never intended to be what it has become. If abortion was available in Ireland, many women experiencing a crisis pregnancy would choose this easy solution or would be pressurised into making this decision by others. If it meant having to travel, the time needed to organise everything could be the time needed to respond to the crisis and change their minds about an abortion.