The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

Ave Sodalis · 21-05-2018 03:20PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever seen an abortion.. Medical staff or if you have seen documentaries on YouTube.. Have talked about the morality of what it entails. Literally ripping a child apart limb from limb. Perfectly formed limbs. How can anyone think this is OK.

97% of abortions in the UK are on healthy women and healthy babies. Please don't bring this to Ireland.

Wrong again! Stop just reading the lies that are on the posters!

Zubeneschamali · 21-05-2018 03:20PM

gmisk wrote: »

Look there are only so many gay people to go round!

Quite the crowd waiting in the Gay Lobby when your free.

amcalester · 21-05-2018 03:21PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

That link states that the Supreme Court ruled that the unborn have the right to life.

Yes, as conferred by the 8th Amendment and that that was the only rights the unborn had.

The Supreme Court also said

The seven-judge court ruled the High Court was wrong to find the unborn has constitutional rights outside article 40.3.3 and was also wrong to find the unborn is a child within the meaning of article 42a.

Leroy42 · 21-05-2018 03:21PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever seen an abortion.. Medical staff or if you have seen documentaries on YouTube.. Have talked about the morality of what it entails. Literally ripping a child apart limb from limb. Perfectly formed limbs. How can anyone think this is OK.

97% of abortions in the UK are on healthy women and healthy babies. Please don't bring this to Ireland.

So your solution is what? Do nothing and pretend? Does it becomes less iccky if done off the Island of Ireland?

kylith · 21-05-2018 03:21PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever seen an abortion.. Medical staff or if you have seen documentaries on YouTube.. Have talked about the morality of what it entails. Literally ripping a child apart limb from limb. Perfectly formed limbs. How can anyone think this is OK.

97% of abortions in the UK are on healthy women and healthy babies. Please don't bring this to Ireland.

That is not what is involved in a termination at 12 weeks.

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Calina · 21-05-2018 03:22PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever seen an abortion.. Medical staff or if you have seen documentaries on YouTube.. Have talked about the morality of what it entails. Literally ripping a child apart limb from limb. Perfectly formed limbs. How can anyone think this is OK.

97% of abortions in the UK are on healthy women and healthy babies. Please don't bring this to Ireland.

Uh, 90% of abortions are done in a period where they can do it using drugs.

I think tbh you are over egging the pudding there. Are you convinced all abortions take place at 24 weeks or something?

wexie · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

Neyite wrote: »

Name 4 contraceptive methods a couple can safely combine.

male condom, female condom, antiswimmer cream (what's that stuff called again?) and the pill?

Added benefit of all of this is that by the time you're all organised one of yous will definitely either be asleep or no longer interested.

Are you guys actually entertaining this nonsense?

SusieBlue · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

Anyone who has ever seen an abortion.. Medical staff or if you have seen documentaries on YouTube.. Have talked about the morality of what it entails. Literally ripping a child apart limb from limb. Perfectly formed limbs. How can anyone think this is OK.

97% of abortions in the UK are on healthy women and healthy babies. Please don't bring this to Ireland.

Abortion pre 12 weeks will be dealt with by taking two tablets and having a heavy period.
Late term abortions are done in cases of FFA, there is certainly no dismembering, parents want to bury their much loved and wanted babies. The woman is induced and a normal birth happens.

Abortion has always been in Ireland, we've just moved on from coat hangers and scaldy baths to the Ryanair Departure gates.
Regardless of the outcome of the referendum, abortion is here to stay.

The question is whether we want to regulate, supervise and restrict it, or if we want to continue exporting the problem, pretending it isn't happening.
This isn't going to go away.

gmisk · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Quite the crowd waiting in the Gay Lobby when your free.

Oh you! #giggle#

Actually I am probably likely to be getting married in the next while TO A MAN!!!!!!!

So the gay lobby will have to sort itself out...so to speak....

spookwoman · 21-05-2018 03:25PM

Resorting to the ripping apart is just low

Cupcake_Crisis · 21-05-2018 03:25PM

wexie wrote: »

male condom, female condom, antiswimmer cream (what's that stuff called again?) and the pill?

Added benefit of all of this is that by the time you're all organised one of yous will definitely either be asleep or no longer interested.

Are you guys actually entertaining this nonsense?

It’s not advised to combine the male and female condom, for what it’s worth

wexie · 21-05-2018 03:25PM

gmisk wrote: »

Actually I am probably likely to be getting married in the next while TO A MAN!!!!!!!

Congratulations!!!

jigglypuffstuff · 21-05-2018 03:26PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

Actually, that's what I'm currently doing, but I don't for one second believe that the risk is gone.

Your "point" is crazy.

Yes because asking someone to practice A little restraint is crazy

Id argue unintentionally creating a life then terminating it is crazy

My way involves a little restriction, careful planning and both individuals life which has no impact on anyone else

Your way is self interest which actually impacts both individuals initially, on top of creating and killing an in utero baby

And I'm the crazy one??

Reread the above and move past the conditioned indulgent "me me me" perspective...it's reminiscent of the egocentricity that permeates modern Ireland

Zubeneschamali · 21-05-2018 03:26PM

wexie wrote: »

male condom, female condom, antiswimmer cream (what's that stuff called again?) and the pill?

Jesus sandals with socks, 100% reliable contraception.

Monkey09 · 21-05-2018 03:27PM

....... wrote: »

No, its taking 2 pills and a heavy period.

And the 97% stat is nonsense.

You really are badly misinformed and worse - despite being told that you are, you are still here ranting about things you know little about.

I'm quite entitled to my respectful opinion thank u.. I don't see why you interpret that as ranting? Just because you don't like what I have to say.

suicide_circus · 21-05-2018 03:27PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Jesus sandals with socks, 100% reliable contraception.

I can imagine where the sock goes....But the sandal?

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Zubeneschamali · 21-05-2018 03:28PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

Just because you don't like what I have to say.

No, we love it, keep it up for the whole week please!

Great job for the Yes campaign.

Ave Sodalis · 21-05-2018 03:28PM

pone2012 wrote: »

Yes because asking someone to practice A little restraint is crazy

Id argue unintentionally creating a life then terminating it is crazy

My way involves a little restriction, careful planning and both individuals life which has no impact on anyone else

Your way is self interest which actually impacts both individuals initially, on top of creating and killing an in utero baby

And I'm the crazy one??

Reread the above and move past the conditioned indulgent "me me me" perspective...it's reminiscent of the egocentricity that permeates modern Ireland

Yes, it's crazy.

Monkey09 wrote: »

I'm quite entitled to my respectful opinion thank u.. I don't see why you interpret that as ranting? Just because you don't like what I have to say.

You have a right to an opinion. However, your opinion is entirely and provably incorrect.

wexie · 21-05-2018 03:29PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I can imagine where the sock goes....But the sandal?

tis for spanking, you really need to widen your horizon's a bit

gmisk · 21-05-2018 03:29PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

It’s not advised to combine the male and female condom, for what it’s worth

Why?
Would you end up with something like a balloon animal? I suppose its inevitable with all that pumping and air!

SusieBlue · 21-05-2018 03:29PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

I'm quite entitled to my respectful opinion thank u.. I don't see why you interpret that as ranting? Just because you don't like what I have to say.

What you are saying is in correct.
Pre 12 weeks two tablets are taken and a heavy period ensues.

Late term abortions are in cases of FFA and are much loved and wanted babies, a normal birth happens, there is no dismembering or scraping, because the parents will want to bury their precious child.

You are ill informed and scaremongering.

amcalester · 21-05-2018 03:29PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

I'm quite entitled to my respectful opinion thank u.. I don't see why you interpret that as ranting? Just because you don't like what I have to say.

You can't say that a certain % of abortions are of healthy babies and when called out on the false statistic claim you're entitled to your opinion.

If you put forward stats then its not an opinion and you should expect to be questioned on it.

Neyite · 21-05-2018 03:30PM

gmisk wrote: »

Why?
Would you end up with something like a balloon animal? I suppose its inevitable with all that pumping and air!

Brilliant

:D

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wexie · 21-05-2018 03:30PM

gmisk wrote: »

Why?
Would you end up with something like a balloon animal? I suppose its inevitable with all that pumping and air!

Thanks I could use a good giggle

Calina · 21-05-2018 03:31PM

Monkey09 wrote: »

....... wrote: »

No, its taking 2 pills and a heavy period.

And the 97% stat is nonsense.

You really are badly misinformed and worse - despite being told that you are, you are still here ranting about things you know little about.

I'm quite entitled to my respectful opinion thank u.. I don't see why you interpret that as ranting? Just because you don't like what I have to say.

Yehbut not your own facts.

Zubeneschamali · 21-05-2018 03:31PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I can imagine where the sock goes....But the sandal?

Imagine knee length brown shorts, a white polyester shirt (no tie - this is a casual outfit) and a blue v-neck jumper. Usually worn with strong BO.

BabysCoffee · 21-05-2018 03:31PM

Spoke to my aunt this morning. She is a registered nurse and has worked with children with special needs for the last 30 years. She told me she is pro-choice.

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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