Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

iamwhoiam · 21-05-2018 03:02PM

Amalgam wrote: »

He will not get the chance to gloat or get pen-mail in jail, unlike some other knife obsessed flute from South Dublin..

Or complain about his conditions and get computers etc . He is no loss at all . But I do feel for his family dragged into his mess and having to deal with it

irishproduce · 21-05-2018 03:04PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Saved her family from going through a painful trial where her last moments would be played out.
They'd also have to apply after 7 years for him not to be released on parole.
And he'd be out in 20 years with good behavior leaving the women of Ireland at his mercy.

So all in all his death was a good result. Its a shame the same didn't happen to other known abductors of women.

No expenses on prison costs, no expenses on paying solicitors to represent him. No emotional cost to the victims family of going through a trial.
I think it is a good result the dog is dead.

TerrorFirmer · 21-05-2018 03:05PM

Such a brutally disturbing case for all involved. Not only that poor girls family in the first instance, but the scumbag's family as well are entirely innocent parties to all this and their lives are also now tainted with a heavy burden that'll never leave them.

Hard to make any sort of sense of it at all. So many unanswered questions.

jaykay74 · 21-05-2018 03:07PM

Prison is probably a sh!t life but its a life. Its 3 meals a day, reading books, surfing the web, watching tv and probably tedium. And then at the end of it you get out and live the rest of your life. No way he deserved that. Who is to say he would have felt any remorse or guilt and anyway who cares if he did, he doesn't deserve the chance to.

Mantis Toboggan · 21-05-2018 03:08PM

Omackeral wrote: »

That doesn't matter once you get to spout off against the Government or the Gardai. Throw in a hashtag or two and you're off the hook, you'll always get someone rowing in behind you. Ignorant imbecile. Twitter is sheer poison.

Twitter is grand it's the people on it that are poison. I haven't seen any of the nonsense myself then again I don't follow any of those numties and cannot understand why anyone would.

twirlagig · 21-05-2018 03:08PM

Cleopatra_ wrote: »

I can't even imagine the fear she must have felt. Especially since so many witnesses saw her in distress over a period of time. It must have been so distressing for those witnesses too to see her clearly in need of help in the back of a car but unable to do anything. That poor girl. May she rest in peace now.

So tragic and senseless. I’m at a loss for words.
God help them

21-05-2018 03:09PM

Such a tragedy for both families and also the Garda who pulled the trigger right or wrong I'll not be judging him but still he'll have to live with the events of last night for the rest of is days which I imagine won't be easy.

ellejay · 21-05-2018 03:09PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I hope some answers can be found. How does a seemingly average family man decide to go out and grab someone off the street and murder them?

He doesn't.
You can be sure it will call come out in the wash.

vicwatson · 21-05-2018 03:09PM

RIP Jastine Valdez

KathleenGrant · 21-05-2018 03:10PM

That poor, poor girl. RIP.

RacoonQueen · 21-05-2018 03:11PM

Awfully sad.

Two families destroyed by the actions of one evil man. Her poor family. His poor wife and kids. Such a horrible event for them all to deal with.

Strazdas · 21-05-2018 03:12PM

Terrible outcome to the case, that poor girl.

I do feel very sorry for the family and friends of the murderer.....they're now in the middle of a horror story

A Pint of Goo · 21-05-2018 03:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Such a tragedy for both families and also the Garda who pulled the trigger right or wrong I'll not be judging him but still he'll have to live with the events of last night for the rest of is days which I imagine won't be easy.

I believe the Garda will sleep easily knowing he did his job and removed a dangerous animal from the world.

Sminkypinky · 21-05-2018 03:16PM

Omackeral wrote: »

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I mean look at this spiteful tweet, seconds after her body was announced as being found

She doesn't even have her facts right!!

That doesn't matter once you get to spout off against the Government or the Gardai. Throw in a hashtag or two and you're off the hook, you'll always get someone rowing in behind you. Ignorant imbecile. Twitter is sheer poison.

I've got a troll account on Twitter set up just for people like her.

Synode · 21-05-2018 03:16PM

Awful news. Poor girl. You'd have to wonder was she his 1st victim or has he done it before and got away with it.

Kaizersoze81 · 21-05-2018 03:20PM

sugarman wrote: »

Tragic

I'll refrain from Gardai bashing until the full facts are known, but it does seem all was not taken too seriously in the hours proceeding the first report by the passerby and then her family reporting her missing that night. 5 crucial hours.

^^^^^^
“I’ll refrain from Garda bashing until the facts are known”

Proceeds to bash Garda investigation.

NoviGlitzko · 21-05-2018 03:20PM

RIP. So rarely do these type of events have good outcomes.

Dial Hard · 21-05-2018 03:21PM

Sminkypinky wrote: »

I've got a troll account on Twitter set up just for people like her.

Aren't you great.

Sminkypinky · 21-05-2018 03:22PM

Synode wrote: »

Awful news. Poor girl. You'd have to wonder was she his 1st victim or has he done it before and got away with it.

That's the only negative aspect to his death. The Gardai can't question him on any similar cases that are unsolved.
But hopefully they can use his DNA.

bear1 · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

It's amazing here when it comes to the Guards. They just can't win.
They take out a guy who was obviously mentally unstable and comes at them with a knife and thus potentially saving more victims but no, it's best to focus on how they were at the start.
We haven't a clue if they took it seriously, they must have if they had detectives connecting everything so quickly.
She went missing Saturday, he was found and shot on Sunday and on Monday they found the body.

More Music · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

No justice exists here, especially now that the Garda who shot him (and indeed Gardai in general) are going to be and already are vehemently being targetted as if they are the true protagonists in this.

I mean look at this spiteful tweet, seconds after her body was announced as being found

She doesn't even have her facts right!!

https://twitter.com/MsSusieBenson/status/998571930042208256

What did she tweet? Looks like it was removed.

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 03:23PM

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

I believe the Garda will sleep easily knowing he did his job and removed a dangerous animal from the world.

Sadly he won't with so many on his back, many calling for his p45, many saying that it was disproportionate action as the man "only" had a knife others even going so far as to say and some on twitter still maintaining that his actions might have led to her being found alive.

Imagine having those voices echoing behind you, hopefully he is strong enough to cope with it all.

And thankfully her body was at the very least, found, even though it is far too early to consider this as anyway anyway positive.

21-05-2018 03:23PM

irishproduce wrote: »

No expenses on prison costs, no expenses on paying solicitors to represent him. No emotional cost to the victims family of going through a trial.
I think it is a good result the dog is dead.

While I agree with all that, I personally feel that he got off light. Her poor family and his, are now serving life sentences. God Love them all.

irishproduce · 21-05-2018 03:24PM

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

I believe the Garda will sleep easily knowing he did his job and removed a dangerous animal from the world.

That Garda has my backing. Fair play to him

Sminkypinky · 21-05-2018 03:25PM

bear1 wrote: »

It's amazing here when it comes to the Guards. They just can't win.
They take out a guy who was obviously mentally unstable and comes at them with a knife and thus potentially saving more victims but no, it's best to focus on how they were at the start.
We haven't a clue if they took it seriously, they must have if they had detectives connecting everything so quickly.
She went missing Saturday, he was found and shot on Sunday and on Monday they found the body.

Yes. I'm not the biggest fan of the Gards but it's difficult to see how they could have done more.
Too many armchair experts, too quick to criticise.

maninasia · 21-05-2018 03:25PM

Obviously should have gone to scene of crime that evening and do a check on the Nissan qashqais owners in the area overnight. Confirmed abduction and identified the abductee by 11pm
Seems like delays could have been crucial here.
Should not have waited for daybreak.

Also know it can be easy to question in hindsight, but still some questions there.

Well known that you've got about 12 hours in most of these cases.

Purple Mountain · 21-05-2018 03:26PM

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

RIP. So rarely do these type of events have good outcomes.

It's very similar to the Karen Buckley tragedy in Scotland.

Reati · 21-05-2018 03:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

While I agree with all that, I personally feel that he got off light. Her poor family and his, are now serving life sentences. God Love them all.

I disagree. "In Ireland, time served for those released under life sentences averages out at more than 14 years." He's have been out at 54 soonest.

Just look at Larry Murphy getting released. Perfect example of our very broken "justice" system.

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 03:26PM

More Music wrote: »

What did she tweet? Looks like it was removed.

not even worth giving people like her a platform

21-05-2018 03:27PM

maninasia wrote: »

Obviously should have gone to scene of crime that evening

Absolutely. Why didn't you phone them and tell them where it was?

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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