Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

billybonkers · 21-05-2018 11:43AM

Water unit on scene

BattleCorp · 21-05-2018 11:43AM

kingofclay wrote: »

That area where her purse was found is so haunting. Imagine being alone there with some bald headed cretin!

Hey. I'm bald headed. And a cretin. but Hey.

21-05-2018 11:43AM

By the time a situation has reached the point where a Garda has a decision to make about taking a shot things have already degraded far beyond the point of a perfect outcome.

Internet experts have some luxury, arses on seats giving it the big one about what they'd have done in that instant and what they'd do next.

We all know what ye will do next. Ye'll have another cuppa tea and post another load of pure sh1te about people doing jobs you're not fit for.

Cyrus · 21-05-2018 11:43AM

kingofclay wrote: »

That area where her purse was found is so haunting. Imagine being alone there with some bald headed cretin!

i doubt his lack of hair was foremost on her mind

Nettle Soup · 21-05-2018 11:43AM

kingofclay wrote: »

That area where her purse was found is so haunting. Imagine being alone there with some bald headed cretin!

Bald men not popular today.

Suckit · 21-05-2018 11:45AM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Bald men not popular today.

Men in general
https://twitter.com/emmaryandublin9/status/998481786488401921

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 11:45AM

iguana wrote: »

There is something about the way this case was reported initially that is bothering me. I heard about the missing woman on the radio news several times yesterday and heard this description repeatedly.

"5ft in height, of slight build with long black hair and brown eyes. When last seen she was wearing a dark coloured jacket, white t-shirt, grey leggings and runners."

As I was driving around south county Dublin and DL-R I listened and kept my eyes out, as while it was unlikely that I'd see her, you never know. But at no point was any mention made of her nationality/skin colour. Pretending to be racially colour blind seems like a particularly stupid move when asking people to be on the lookout for someone and giving an otherwise detailed description. I don't think it would have made a lot of difference in this particular case but it's something that needs to be rectified in future.

99% of media said she was Philipino............I even reckon if you delve into that report you will get that reference.

kunst nugget · 21-05-2018 11:46AM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Bald men not popular today.

The Mitchell Brothers, Phil Collins and now this guy. There's something inherently evil with bald men.

OB1Kildare · 21-05-2018 11:47AM

according to reports the water unit have arrived at the place where they found her purse in rathmichael .....

Textronic · 21-05-2018 11:48AM

Just as well they didn't put out an APB or Declan ganley might have got arrested

Time · 21-05-2018 11:48AM

woejus wrote: »

Charge a gun, run from a knife

Old video but shows how someone with a knife can close 20 feet gap between you, before you can draw your gun and fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js0haocH4-o

I was just about to post this, all those saying they should have shot and wounded him should stop embarrassing yourselves and watch this video. It shows just how quickly an armed attacker with a knife can close ground and fatally wound someone.

If any of you had ever even shot a rifle or pistol, you'd have an idea of how hard hitting a target is when you have time and can focus. When Gardai discharge their firearms they do so in the knowledge that the target may be killed, it is a mechanism of last resort, theres no such thing as shooting to wound.

If you want to see what happens in the real world, there are plenty of dash cam videos on youtube from the US showing people being shot in the chest 2 or 3 times and still being able to return fire, or advance towards the police with knives.

ChikiChiki · 21-05-2018 11:49AM

Suckit wrote: »

Men in general
https://twitter.com/emmaryandublin9/status/998481786488401921

Christ what an opportunistic bint...

kunst nugget · 21-05-2018 11:49AM

Suckit wrote: »

Men in general
https://twitter.com/emmaryandublin9/status/998481786488401921

Ah, it's always good to get a bit of point scoring in disguised as compassion when something like this happens.

I think we need to have a meaningful conversation about how women use twitter...

iguana · 21-05-2018 11:49AM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

99% of media said she was Philipino............I even reckon if you delve into that report you will get that reference.

Found the report I heard. No mention at all of her nationality.
https://www.q102.ie/news/garda-brief-press-on-alleged-abduction-near-ennisk/

OB1Kildare · 21-05-2018 11:49AM

since they had the reg of the car since yesterday and had been to see the wife they hardly were able to search the house yesterday ...which might explain that they knew what they were dealing with

redarmy · 21-05-2018 11:54AM

A fresh appeal from gardan the search for Jastine Valdez - they're looking to speak to anyone who noticed suspicious activity around Puckscastle Lane and Kilternan lead mines

Malayalam · 21-05-2018 11:54AM

Suckit wrote: »

Men in general
https://twitter.com/emmaryandublin9/status/998481786488401921

It's a modern sickness in the head that tries to lump in ''our boys'' with the activities of rare evil psychopaths. Worrying.

The Crowman · 21-05-2018 11:55AM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

99% of media said she was Philipino............I even reckon if you delve into that report you will get that reference.

Really? I've only seen one media reference to her being Phillipino. None of the early RTE reports stated this. I've seen this before in missing person cases involving African/Asian people and they never mention race/nationality. "Black hair, dark eyes" etc.

seamus · 21-05-2018 11:56AM

iguana wrote: »

Pretending to be racially colour blind seems like a particularly stupid move when asking people to be on the lookout for someone and giving an otherwise detailed description. I don't think it would have made a lot of difference in this particular case but it's something that needs to be rectified in future.

It's a separate thread maybe, but I wonder is there some kind of logic behind it?
If they asked people to look out for a small Filipino woman with brown eyes and long black hair, they'd be inundated.
I wonder is there any science/data that suggests that not mentioning race is more effective?

(Again, may be a discussion for another thread)

21-05-2018 11:59AM

redarmy wrote: »

A fresh appeal from garda in the search for Jastine Valdez

billybonkers wrote: »

Body found in Leadmines

Well both of these can't be correct. Pretty much a reason why the whole ''first'' thing is irresponsible.

wexie · 21-05-2018 12:01PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Well both of these can't be correct. Pretty much a reason why the whole ''first'' thing is irresponsible.

Be great if we (the consumers of meedja) could convince them (the meedja) perhaps they should put more importance on being right rather than being first

Sin City · 21-05-2018 12:01PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Well both of these can't be correct. Pretty much a reason why the whole ''first'' thing is irresponsible.

Its not looking good for her
I hope Im wrong though

5star02707 · 21-05-2018 12:13PM

not losing hope and still positive that the Gardai can find her please please

Mongfinder General · 21-05-2018 12:15PM

Suckit wrote: »

Men in general
https://twitter.com/emmaryandublin9/status/998481786488401921

Who is this no mark? And who exactly is raising “our boys”? Single mothers, predominantly female pre school teachers and primary school teachers as well as in crèches and child minders. ffs, it’s the lack of a male role model that some kids miss these days. And fcuk her for taking cheap shots at men off the back of this poor girl’s situation

Strazdas · 21-05-2018 12:15PM

OB1Kildare wrote: »

according to reports the water unit have arrived at the place where they found her purse in rathmichael .....

That would be standard procedure in such a search

pjohnson · 21-05-2018 12:16PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Well both of these can't be correct. Pretty much a reason why the whole ''first'' thing is irresponsible.

Ah but first is best. Later is just AGS cover up right?

kunst nugget · 21-05-2018 12:16PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Well both of these can't be correct. Pretty much a reason why the whole ''first'' thing is irresponsible.

And one of the causes of so many conspiracy theories. 'Well, now they are saying it's one shooter but initial reports from terrified onlookers suggested that there was more than one shooter. It's obviously a cover up...'

pjohnson · 21-05-2018 12:18PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

And one of the causes of so many conspiracy theories. 'Well, now they are saying it's one shooter but initial reports from terrified onlookers suggested that there was more than one shooter. It's obviously a cover up...'

It wouldn't suprise me if some start expertly claiming the AGS shot her in the car last night and today is just a cover up. They aren't that far from reaching that level conspiracy.

Mrcaramelchoc · 21-05-2018 12:19PM

The Crowman wrote: »

Really? I've only seen one media reference to her being Phillipino. None of the early RTE reports stated this. I've seen this before in missing person cases involving African/Asian people and they never mention race/nationality. "Black hair, dark eyes" etc.

There's a Philippino being interviewed on rte 1 right now.she's from there.

Gatling · 21-05-2018 12:22PM

chicorytip wrote: »

This is nonsense. He is holding a knife as opposed to a high powered firearm. The garda response was disproportionate.

No it wasn't ,

If anything it was suicide by cop

Better than potentially having two innocent people murdered

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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