strength level

seefin · 11-05-2018 12:13PM #1

Female here in 40s. Went to exrx.com website for strength standards and according to them I'm advanced level with my bench press and deadlift. I wouldn't have thought that as only been lifting a few years and did most progress in the first 8 months and just maintaining since. Are these guidelines reliable?

GiftofGab · 11-05-2018 01:06PM

I've never used that site. I tend to use: https://symmetricstrength.com

Which is quite popular in the community and very well regarded.

seefin · 11-05-2018 01:25PM

Thanks a million for that

Alf Veedersane · 11-05-2018 03:55PM

Tells me my bench is shít.

It's legit.

11-05-2018 03:56PM

Yeah I'm intermediate on s&dl and a noob at bench on that

whippet · 11-05-2018 05:46PM

never saw something like that before .. apparently my squat is elite and my deadlift is exceptional !! .. less said about the bench the better.

It also says:

Exceptional: Lifters in this category have typically taken a consistent, structured approach to diet and strength training for the majority of their adult life and are competitive at the regional level. For many lifters, this level is near the maximum genetic potential without the use of performance-enhancing drugs. Strength score 100

Elite: Lifters in this category are competitive at the national level. Those at this level have typically spent a lifetime of rigorous and structured training and dieting. Strength score 112.5.

I've been lifting just over 2 years and I can say that I have not spent my life looking after myself !!

11-05-2018 06:07PM

There must be a squad of super elite benchers out there skewing all our stats haha

whippet · 11-05-2018 06:10PM

bluewolf wrote: »

There must be a squad of super elite benchers out there skewing all our stats haha

I’ll second that

caviardreams · 11-05-2018 09:15PM

Intermediate at BP, DL & Squat though unsurprisingly my squat is the worst of the lot

Did not do OHP as thought I might break the calculator by putting in a minus figure for my 1RM :rolleyes:

Dtp1979 · 12-05-2018 10:19PM

whippet wrote: »

I've been lifting just over 2 years!

Seriously green with envy. Not fair

GiftofGab · 13-05-2018 05:17PM

whippet wrote: »

never saw something like that before .. apparently my squat is elite and my deadlift is exceptional !! .. less said about the bench the better.

It also says:

I've been lifting just over 2 years and I can say that I have not spent my life looking after myself !!

Any chance of a video of these lifts??

whippet · 13-05-2018 07:22PM

GiftofGab wrote: »

Any chance of a video of these lifts??

I don’t do vids on boards !!

My comment was a bit tounge in cheek ... according to that website my lifts are elite but I wouldn’t classify them as anything like that.

COH · 13-05-2018 08:06PM

whippet wrote: »

I don’t do vids on boards !!

Well then they never happened - even if I was standing beside you when they did.

#science

whippet · 13-05-2018 09:38PM

COH wrote: »

Well then they never happened - even if I was standing beside you when they did.

#science

Your lifts would show as world class !!! Even though I was watching 67kg lifters open with 170 bench’s last night at the US open !

Transform · 15-05-2018 08:20AM

GiftofGab wrote: »

I've never used that site. I tend to use: https://symmetricstrength.com

Which is quite popular in the community and very well regarded.

combine with some conditioning and mobility standards also.

theres a point where strong is strong enough

Blacktie. · 15-05-2018 12:54PM

Transform wrote: »

theres a point where strong is strong enough

Finding that point is the hard part.

Mellor · 15-05-2018 03:43PM

Transform wrote: »

combine with some conditioning and mobility standards also.

theres a point where strong is strong enough

Agree about strong being strong enough. But will probably vary individual to i dividual.
With myself for example. I do only two sessions if strength work a week. Really simply routine. If I did 4 days of a powerlifting routine, I would no doubt be stronger, but it would be detrimental to my training overall.

Mobile is hugely important. However I also feel that it's hard to account for people who might be hypermobile to the point of being an issue (weakness, injury prone, instability). Are there tests you could do on that end?

Transform · 15-05-2018 05:45PM

Mellor wrote: »

Agree about strong being strong enough. But will probably vary individual to i dividual.
With myself for example. I do only two sessions if strength work a week. Really simply routine. If I did 4 days of a powerlifting routine, I would no doubt be stronger, but it would be detrimental to my training overall.

Mobile is hugely important. However I also feel that it's hard to account for people who might be hypermobile to the point of being an issue (weakness, injury prone, instability). Are there tests you could do on that end?

how would it vary from individual to individual as that statement only applies to people with 1-2 yrs of training behind them?

tests for hyper-mobility - pick any stretch and if it looks crasy good and they have elbows that look overextended when holding a weight overhead or a push up position then yup more stability required - i see this very very rarely

DylanJM · 15-05-2018 06:08PM

whippet wrote: »

Even though I was watching 67kg lifters open with 170 bench’s last night at the US open !

Isn’t that US Open meet untested though? I don’t think these standards apply to those lifters.

Powerhouse · 15-05-2018 06:33PM

COH wrote: »

Well then they never happened - even if I was standing beside you when they did.

Are you saying you’d refuse to believe your own eyes?

Alf Veedersane · 15-05-2018 07:49PM

Powerhouse wrote: »

Are you saying you’d refuse to believe your own eyes?

whippet · 15-05-2018 08:34PM

DylanJM wrote: »

Isn’t that US Open meet untested though? I don’t think these standards apply to those lifters.

Untested alright ... I would train with a good few ‘untested’ lifters and would be a fairly moderate lifter in comparison... so would always feel fairly humble. When you have lasts pulling and squatting 300+ most sessions you kinda get immune to it.

I have nothing against lads using PEDs .. they are just not for me - unless they compete In tested comps !

DylanJM · 15-05-2018 09:10PM

whippet wrote: »

Untested alright ... I would train with a good few ‘untested’ lifters and would be a fairly moderate lifter in comparison... so would always feel fairly humble. When you have lasts pulling and squatting 300+ most sessions you kinda get immune to it.

I have nothing against lads using PEDs .. they are just not for me - unless they compete In tested comps !

I have nothing against it either tbh. It's a massive part of sports in general and especially strength sports.

I was just making the point that these standards go out the window once you start including enhanced lifters. It blurs the lines. For example, say someone reached their maximum natural potential with a 200kg squat but then went on to do 250kg+ using PEDs would they be classed as advanced or elite? (I'm just picking random numbers here to illustrate the point not necessarily what constitutes advanced and elite standards).

whippet · 15-05-2018 09:21PM

100% agree with you ... but I still think those standards are way off. If my squat is elite why don’t I win comps !!

As for peds .. I know quite a few lads who are shovelling them in to themselves and with stupid training are still weak

GiftofGab · 15-05-2018 10:56PM

whippet wrote: »

100% agree with you ... but I still think those standards are way off. If my squat is elite why don’t I win comps !!

As for peds .. I know quite a few lads who are shovelling them in to themselves and with stupid training are still weak

If you're classified as elite, as you say you are, you would smash anyone in a competition in Ireland.
Its similar to saying I'm out of shape and only started running less than 2 years ago but still doing a sub 10 second 100m sprint.

whippet · 15-05-2018 11:11PM

GiftofGab wrote: »

If you're classified as elite, as you say you are, you would smash anyone in a competition in Ireland.
Its similar to saying I'm out of shape and only started running less than 2 years ago but still doing a sub 10 second 100m sprint.

Only one of my lifts is classified as elite ... in my last comp two lifters squatted more than me

Alf Veedersane · 15-05-2018 11:22PM

GiftofGab wrote: »

If you're classified as elite, as you say you are, you would smash anyone in a competition in Ireland.
Its similar to saying I'm out of shape and only started running less than 2 years ago but still doing a sub 10 second 100m sprint.

To be fair, he's pretty much scoffed at the classification of his lifts on the website.

He hasn't made any effort to say his lifts are.particularly impressive and has pretty much always said they're not even impressive in his own gym.

15-05-2018 11:26PM

GiftofGab wrote: »

If you're classified as elite, as you say you are, you would smash anyone in a competition in Ireland.
Its similar to saying I'm out of shape and only started running less than 2 years ago but still doing a sub 10 second 100m sprint.

In fairness i don't think it's whippet saying he is elite i think it is an app/website saying he is and him going 'lolno'

Mellor · 16-05-2018 01:04AM

GiftofGab wrote: »

If you're classified as elite, as you say you are, you would smash anyone in a competition in Ireland.
Its similar to saying I'm out of shape and only started running less than 2 years ago but still doing a sub 10 second 100m sprint.

I think you are underestimating how many lifters around the country would hit the elite mark. The top lifters would be in the world class category.
Where as a sub 10 100m is pretty much out of reach for guys who aren't African descent. I think there's only been one or two that have broken 10-secs.

GiftofGab · 16-05-2018 08:36AM

Is there anywhere where I can find the Irish powerlifting records for each weight class??

Alf Veedersane · 16-05-2018 08:45AM

GiftofGab wrote: »

Is there anywhere where I can find the Irish powerlifting records for each weight class??

For which federation?

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