Half of Gardaí can't give chase or use siren

Beta Ray Bill · 15-05-2018 12:12PM

micosoft wrote: »

The proposition was that we build more prisons to reduce crime. In the case of the US proves that this has not reduced crime.
In fact treating criminals as animals merely increases the costs every time (6% of US GDP by one reckoning). Which is good when incarceration is a private sector industry in the US.

But in some cases they are animals and belong in a cage.
Footage on social media thismorning of some scumbag viciously attacking a bus driver for no good reason. If you're telling me that a person like that can be help I think you are dreaming. He belongs in a cage. Perhaps castration or a lobotomy might help them, but nothing short of that. (I'm not suggestion we do that btw!)

micosoft wrote: »

On the other hand Norway demonstrates that you can reduce recidivism with proper investment in rehabilitation and not using prison as a first stop. And it's extremely cheap

Sorry, but you are comparing Chalk with Cheese Norwegian people and American people couldn't be more different.
Norway does not tolerate anti-social behavior or violence at all.
America does (In fact it promotes it, Gun laws, Us vs Them, we're the good guys, might is right, huge military, gang culture/thug life, drugs, etc)

If a person is caught doing a crime and is sentenced to prison and doesn't cop on that what they did was wrong and that they should not do it again, well then their is something clearly wrong with that person and/or they should be locked up or punished longer until the message gets through.

Graces7 · 15-05-2018 06:52PM

Many of us care. Period.

opinionated3 wrote: »

You see, this is what I don't understand. Who here actually REALLY cares whether scum like them survive or not?? As a society, who would really miss them apart from their own families ( who literally let them run riot in the first place). Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating running in there all guns blazing like the wild West, but at the end of the day they are criminals who steal innocent, hardworking people's property, endanger other innocents and destroy said property without a care in the world. And all the while probably claiming the Dole payment each week. We need a harder line to be taken on these people. That includes the Gardai no questions asked. Do your job FFS..... Is what's the taxpayer is paying you too do. No excuses. There are plenty of cars around to do motoring checkpoints, therefore a serious, dangerous incident like this should get priority over checking for tax on the M50....

AllForIt · 15-05-2018 06:59PM

What chase is worth it to put the lives of the general public at risk? Very few I'd imagine.

Permabear · 15-05-2018 07:35PM

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Vladimir Poontang · 15-05-2018 07:52PM

It's not just about chasing, it's also about signalling to ask a motorist to pull over. Resorting to flashing their headlights is ridiculous

machiavellianme · 15-05-2018 07:59PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

It's actually more ridiculous than the story states. Almost all Gardare not allowed chase. AGS effectively have a no pursuit policy. What the story is referring to is members not being allowed break the road traffic regulations unless they have the driving course done. And it's likely more than half of drivers. It's a bit of a silly rule because their is a legal exemption for them anyway. So even though they are legally allowed break the speed limit for instance they can get disciplined for doing so.

Odd. Never seems to bother them when they're off duty and driving in the bus lanes.

shamrock55 · 15-05-2018 08:02PM

I have this driving course done but it's for the fire brigade

Half of Gardaí can't give chase or use siren

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