8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

Shelga · 14-05-2018 10:18PM

So far this debate has me really worried that the 8th amendment won’t be repealed. People in the audience seem to think women will be running out for abortions without giving it any thought whatsoever. The Yes side need to stop falling back on rape/FFA angle and focus on the thousands of other reasons a woman might need/want an abortion, and how it is HER CHOICE what happens with her own body.

Have there been any significant or far-reaching opinion polls done so far?

RobertKK · 14-05-2018 10:18PM

gctest50 wrote: »

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I am contacting the Mod as they made a ruling based on no contact, and gave a reply based on one had to read all the posts which is not a requirement in the rules.

eviltwin · 14-05-2018 10:19PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

Abortions on healthy babies by healthy mothers

Like rape victims? Pregnant children? Women in financially precarious positions? Women in violent relationships? Women with no support?

14-05-2018 10:19PM

Can't see the debate folks so thanks for the updates look forward to the end of debate review.

gmisk · 14-05-2018 10:19PM

Jesus Mary Lou is terrific tonight! (I am a bit behind)

KaneToad · 14-05-2018 10:19PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

I recognise the doctor in the audience that spoke on the late late show, he looks like he’s about to blow a gasket at the crap the No side is saying, he looks furious!

Which part is crap??

Both sides are arguing their interpretation. Its not a black and white scenario. I can understand the perspectives of both sides and their thought processes of same.

SusieBlue · 14-05-2018 10:20PM

January wrote: »

Dr. Mark Murphy. He's amazing.

Very easy on the eye too, if I say so myself!

BabysCoffee · 14-05-2018 10:20PM

They need to provide subtitles for this lad

AllForIt · 14-05-2018 10:20PM

The lawyer said this is simply about repealing the 8th. If that's the case then were does the 12 week thing come into it? Doesn't that mean that it's not just about repealing the 8th but the replacement for it.

Edit: If it is just about repealing the 8th fine. Then if it's passed we should have another ref about what replaces it.

bloodless_coup · 14-05-2018 10:20PM

Hon Mattie

Uncharted · 14-05-2018 10:21PM

Shut up Mattie! Faux bog man chatter for the craw thumpers at Sunday mass.....

KaneToad · 14-05-2018 10:21PM

Freudian slip Mattie....asking Dr Monaghan to stop telling lies. #ooops

gmisk · 14-05-2018 10:21PM

So far this is so biased.... Literally just no side questions from audience...

robarmstrong · 14-05-2018 10:21PM

Shelga wrote: »

So far this debate has me really worried that the 8th amendment won’t be repealed. People in the audience seem to think women will be running out for abortions without giving it any thought whatsoever. The Yes side need to stop falling back on rape/FFA angle and focus on the thousands of other reasons a woman might need/want an abortion, and how it is HER CHOICE what happens with her own body.

Have there been any significant or far-reaching opinion polls done so far?

Unfortunately the majority of those who are No voters are horrifically misogynistic towards women, even the women No voters.

They have such a terribly low opinion of anyone who seeks an abortion because they don't want a woman who's suffering to abort a baby they don't give a bollocks about once it's born. They can dress it up all they want, but they just don't give a toss about the woman, and don't give a toss about her baby after it's born, providing it isn't aborted.

It's hypocrisy of the highest order and just further demonstrates how out of touch with reality these individuals are.

neonsofa · 14-05-2018 10:22PM

Loved that lady with the orange scarf advocating for a yes vote. Great speaker and so concise.

ricero · 14-05-2018 10:22PM

H'on Mattie ya whoore ya

Ave Sodalis · 14-05-2018 10:22PM

AllForIt wrote: »

The lawyer said this is simply about repealing the 8th. If that's the case then were does the 12 week thing come into it? Doesn't that mean that it's not just about repealing the 8th but the replacement for it.

The 12 weeks is for legislation after the repeal. We needed some sort of proposed legislation or it would be too up in the air for voters. It is subject to change with lobbying.

Larbre34 · 14-05-2018 10:22PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

These hard cases are such a small % of abortions

So what? They are the ones that keep ending up in the supreme court causing agony for people

Whats wrong with repealing the amendment and letting those that want a termination have one, nobody is going to force anyone that doesnt want one to have one?!

Wrongway1985 · 14-05-2018 10:22PM

Uncharted wrote: »

Shut up Mattie! Faux bog man chatter for the craw thumpers at Sunday mass.....

Says please leave poor Savita in her grave out of it...proceeds on rant speculating her death

14-05-2018 10:22PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

Abortions on healthy babies by healthy mothers

how exactly is that social abortion?
needs explaining

robarmstrong · 14-05-2018 10:22PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I am contacting the Mod as they made a ruling based on no contact, and gave a reply based on one had to read all the posts which is not a requirement in the rules.

Or they got sick and tired of you dodging questions like the plague because you're incapable of doing anything other than lie and run away 'til you think it's safe.

Dressing gown · 14-05-2018 10:23PM

I’m behind on the live version but as a qualified lawyer And Maria using the the ‘I’m the only lawyer’ card. She would be in massive trouble in the uk with the law society for saying that as you aren’t allowed to say that unless you follow it with ‘non practising’ or you can lose your licence!

She is a sneaky unethical person to do so. It is against the legal code of conduct.

Secondly I am confident that no voters have lied to get into the audience pretending they are yes voters...

Larbre34 · 14-05-2018 10:23PM

neonsofa wrote: »

Loved that lady with the orange scarf advocating for a yes vote. Great speaker and so concise.

If only all lawyers were so good

KaneToad · 14-05-2018 10:23PM

robarmstrong wrote: »

Unfortunately the majority of those who are No voters are horrifically misogynistic towards women, even the women No voters.

Really??

neonsofa · 14-05-2018 10:24PM

Poor woman in the back who had her hand up the whole time has finally given up and taken her arm down.

Wrongway1985 · 14-05-2018 10:24PM

Blank cheque another red herring

BabysCoffee · 14-05-2018 10:24PM

Ronan Mullen has one warped mind

AnneFrank · 14-05-2018 10:24PM

All the yes side have is the very small % of hard cases, and they keep going back to it over and over

bloodless_coup · 14-05-2018 10:24PM

Wonder what way Claire will vote

14-05-2018 10:25PM

AllForIt wrote: »

The lawyer said this is simply about repealing the 8th. If that's the case then were does the 12 week thing come into it? Doesn't that mean that it's not just about repealing the 8th but the replacement for it.

Edit: If the is just about repealing the 8th fine. Then if it's passed we should have another ref about what replaces it.

of course its about repealing the amendment, we have to have a referendum on constitutional changes.
we don't have referendums on legislation

8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

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