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8th amendment referendum part 3 - Mod note and FAQ in post #1

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  • #992
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I never said that, but i also believe the health of a baby is important.
    I would vote yes if it wasn't abortion on demand up to 12 weeks.
    I just can't vote for that and never could. If you can, fair dues

    But you are not voting for that, it has been said on here over & over, you are voting on the 8th amendment. That's what affects women's healthcare & that should go.
    Any abortion legislation that may be brought in afterwards, is subject to the same rules & regulations as every other law.
    People have a right to lobby & March & make their views heard on that subject.


  • #993
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Thanks Dara and i do always like your views on most things.
    But lots of people have been shouted down out of this thread with respect,
    myself included i just dropped in to see if any new points were getting made

    I can’t agree with that. People are allowed to disagree with you and voicing opinions is what messageboards are about. Anyone will solid views should be able to explain their position.


  • #994
    reubenreuben
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I never said that, but i also believe the health of a baby is important.
    I would vote yes if it wasn't abortion on demand up to 12 weeks.
    I just can't vote for that and never could. If you can, fair dues

    The vote is to repeal the 8th or not.

    Get with it!


  • #995
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Thanks Dara and i do always like your views on most things.
    But lots of people have been shouted down out of this thread with respect,
    myself included i just dropped in to see if any new points were getting made


    A lot of people got themselves banned from this thread.....thats not the same as being shouted down


  • #996
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    No problem with disagreeing Dara, it's the name calling and ganging up on ect when the opinion is different that bothers me, i just never like bullies, also no problem with canvassing or marching if that's what they want to do as long as it's respectful.


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  • #997
    bruschi
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    No problem with disagreeing Dara, it's the name calling and ganging up on ect when the opinion is different that bothers me, i just never like bullies, also no problem with canvassing or marching if that's what they want to do as long as it's respectful.

    yeah name calling is not nice. Neither is mocking someone over how they and their partner dealt with a miscarriage.


  • #998
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    No problem with disagreeing Dara, it's the name calling and ganging up on ect when the opinion is different that bothers me, i just never like bullies, also no problem with canvassing or marching if that's what they want to do as long as it's respectful.

    Do you have anything to add to the discussion or are you just here to whine?


  • #999
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,384 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    That one went 62-38%. I'd be more than happy with that result this time.
    As would I!
    What a brilliant day that was as well.
    I remember being in a small pub near City Hall, some of my friends, couples together for 20+ years bursting into tears with the fantastic news, they finally felt like equal citizens of ireland

    But can see it being a lot tighter for this referendum.


  • #1000
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    bruschi wrote: »
    yeah name calling is not nice. Neither is mocking someone over how they and their partner dealt with a miscarriage.

    yes i agree, or like calling a human an idea of a human which i don't agree with.
    But each to their own.


  • #1001
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,384 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    yes i agree, or like calling a human an idea of a human which i don't agree with.
    But each to their own.
    Is the irony of the part in bold totally lost on you?


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  • #1002
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    But lots of people have been shouted down out of this thread with respect, myself included i just dropped in to see if any new points were getting made

    The fact that you are posting means you were not "shouted out", you could stay or go, up to you.

    It is true that a remarkable number of No posters have been banned, but that is because they broke the rules. A few yes posters were banned too.


  • #1003
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    gmisk wrote: »
    As would I!
    What a brilliant day that was as well.
    I remember being in a small pub near City Hall, some of my friends, couples together for 20+ years bursting into tears with the fantastic news, they finally felt like equal citizens of ireland

    But can see it being a lot tighter for this referendum.

    The reality is that with a no vote, while dismaying, it won't prevent people going to the UK to get their abortions. No side smacks of NIMBY.


  • #1004
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    bruschi wrote: »
    yeah name calling is not nice. Neither is mocking someone over how they and their partner dealt with a miscarriage.

    yes i agree, or like calling a human an idea of a human which i don't agree with.
    But each to their own.

    I've no idea what you are vaguely talking about. Could you be specific?


  • #1005
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    bruschi wrote: »
    yeah name calling is not nice. Neither is mocking someone over how they and their partner dealt with a miscarriage.

    yes i agree, or like calling a human an idea of a human which i don't agree with.
    But each to their own.

    I've no idea what you are vaguely talking about. Could you be specific?


  • #1006
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    yes i agree, or like calling a human an idea of a human which i don't agree with.
    But each to their own.

    You repeatedly mocked him over and over about it, not in replies specifically to him, but passive aggressively in replies to other people.
    And every time he pulled you up on said mocking, you just ignored him.

    You actually have no right to be offended by how someone else grieves for and rationalises their own miscarriage.
    He doesn't and didn't have to justify it to you. Yet you still repeatedly took the p*ss out of him.


  • #1007
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    BabysCoffee wrote: »
    Do you have anything to add to the discussion or are you just here to whine?

    I think many are here to whine so if the 8th is repealed they can say to themselves " look at me i tried look look "

    They'll probably print out these pages to look at in their old age

    Vote "no" and don't bring in pregnancy tests at the airport ?

    NIMBYism


  • #1008
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    The reality is that with a no vote, while dismaying, it won't prevent people going to the UK to get their abortions.

    It won't prevent all people, but there are some who cannot travel.

    Women who are already in hospital, or in care, or in prison, or in direct provision, or in an abusive relationship, or underage with the wrong parents, or who can't afford to travel, or...

    You know, the poor, the sick, prisoners, foreigners, children. I'm pretty sure some dude named Jesus had a message for us about those people...


  • #1009
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Thanks Dara and i do always like your views on most things.
    But lots of people have been shouted down out of this thread with respect,
    myself included i just dropped in to see if any new points were getting made

    I'm guessing you mean lots of pro-lifers got shouted down. In reality they got asked to back up their "facts" with evidence or people pointed out the hypocrisy of their beliefs or they were the reasoning behind their opinions. They couldn't cope with this and instead fell back on babies, human, killing. And repeat. And repeat. And repeat.

    Having your argument torn to pieces by the truth isn't being "shouted down".


  • #1010
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    You repeatedly mocked him over and over about it, not in replies specifically to him, but passive aggressively in replies to other people.
    And every time he pulled you up on said mocking, you just ignored him.

    You actually have no right to be offended by how someone else grieves for and rationalises their own miscarriage.
    He doesn't and didn't have to justify it to you. Yet you still repeatedly took the p*ss out of him.

    so i never mentioned a poster, but yet in your mind, that is me intentionally mocking the said poster passively aggressively.
    Ok that makes perfect sense...


  • #1011
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    so i never mentioned a poster, but yet in your mind, that is me intentionally mocking the said poster passively aggressively.
    Ok that makes perfect sense...

    You must have a short memory. Here are just 3 examples.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106792247

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106788462

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106782548

    Don't even try to deny it.

    Edit: And for fairness, here is a link to the original post in question.
    Good thing you're not on a discussion forum then. Oh wait.

    I think you've realized the stupidity of your post and are now furiously trying to backtrack.
    My OH had a miscarriage around that time (couple of weeks earlier). We now have a 3 month old daughter. While the miscarriage was definitely tough, we don't feel like we lost a baby, more the idea of a baby. I cannot even begin to comprehend how I'd feel if we lost our daughter now.


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  • #1012
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    I shall Susie, but again this really is only proving my point.
    love both


  • #1013
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,109 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    There is way more no voters than people think, exactly like the ssm referendum.
    Why, because people with a different view just get shouted down there's no point debating.
    Still believe the yes will win as we are now a nation of pc sheep, but i do believe it will be closer than people think.
    Welcome back.
    Come for round two?

    Let me guess. You've change your mind from ardent NO to "hmm I'm on the fence but here's all the problems with the repeal side".


  • #1014
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,109 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I shall Susie, but again this really is only proving my point.
    love both
    Love both, not just the potential child/

    Funny how your lot always forgets the second part, isnt it!
    Oh wait... am I shouting you down? :rolleyes:


  • #1015
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I shall Susie, but again this really is only proving my point.
    love both

    I just proved my point. I included the original post you were passive aggressively mocking. And any time he replied to those posts you made, you ignored him.


  • #1016
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,109 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    I just proved my point. I included the original post you were passive aggressively mocking. And any time he replied to those posts you made, you ignored him.
    There's no point engaging with people like that.

    Like I said earlier to RobertKK (who has gone quiet now that Anne is back)
    ELM327 wrote: »
    More online falsehoods Robert.
    When will you and the others in the 27% NO camp give up?
    You can't win a straight up debate and you can't win with scaremongering and horrible photos and lies, and this faux victimhood doesnt work either.

    10 women every day going to england.
    That poor, poor woman in the #inhershoes page who's baby was born sideways tearing her on the way out. But the midwife "was happy" so the birth continued without pain medication. The woman had no bodily autonomy to overrule her. I'm even in tears writing this so I don't understand how anyone could read it and vote no.

    We have truth, love,respect and compassion on our side.
    You have hatred, vile photos, lies and scaremongering.

    The truth will out
    #repealthe8th.


  • #1017
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Love both, not just the potential child/

    Funny how your lot always forgets the second part, isnt it!
    Oh wait... am I shouting you down? :rolleyes:

    Your lot, lol


  • #1018
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,109 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Your lot, lol
    Poor diddums.
    Nothing of substance to add, no?


  • #1019
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Poor diddums.
    Nothing of substance to add, no?

    You can bring a horse to water buddy, but you can't make it drink.


  • #1020
    reubenreuben
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I shall Susie, but again this really is only proving my point.
    love both

    That should be love nothing as voting no does nothing for either


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  • #1021
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    You can bring a horse to water buddy, but you can't make it drink.

    And you can show a pro-lifer facts and logic but you can't make them accept them.


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