Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

$ausage$ · 27-04-2018 09:31AM

Cant find much on him pre france.

EDIT: Sorry yes Portadown youth trained. Maybe he went to a School too but not sure.

Question... maybe we have too many back rows now to give them all a chance?

launish116 · 27-04-2018 09:39AM

$ausage$ wrote: »

Question... maybe we have too many back rows now to give them all a chance?

Yes & No, factor in our injury/ACL record. There all young backrowers and will take time to get to this physicality/level. You'd hope they can slowly be filtered/rotated in. I'd rather have to many and edge out the NIQ's to other positions.

We have:
Murphy
Rea
Timmoney
Reidy
Coetzee

In theory we have coming through:
6 Rea jr/Montgomery
7 Hall/agnew
8 Jones/Dunleavy/Allison
Possibly missed some potential.

stellenbosch · 27-04-2018 09:43AM

launish116 wrote: »

Yes & No, factor in our injury/ACL record. There all young backrowers and will take time to get to this physicality/level. You'd hope they can slowly be filtered/rotated in. I'd rather have to many and edge out the NIQ's to other positions.

We have:
Murphy
Rea
Timmoney
Reidy
Coetzee

In theory we have coming through:
6 Rea jr/Montgomery
7 Hall/agnew
8 Jones/Dunleavy/Allison
Possibly missed some potential.

Whats the view on Jones after a season in Ulster?

$ausage$ · 27-04-2018 09:45AM

I hear ya regards injuries and those goddamn knees, but let's say we have 5 spots on match day for backrow/locks if a sub
7 extra backrows? this year has by far been or worst with backrows and availability and we have recruited Nordi so if we didn't use them by now will we ever? I can't see many bar Nordi and I guess you could call Hendo one, being away to Ireland camp either.

This is also assuming that A's will have a fresh new crop coming in too.

$ausage$ · 27-04-2018 09:45AM

stellenbosch wrote: »

launish116 wrote: »

Yes & No, factor in our injury/ACL record. There all young backrowers and will take time to get to this physicality/level. You'd hope they can slowly be filtered/rotated in. I'd rather have to many and edge out the NIQ's to other positions.

We have:
Murphy
Rea
Timmoney
Reidy
Coetzee

In theory we have coming through:
6 Rea jr/Montgomery
7 Hall/agnew
8 Jones/Dunleavy/Allison
Possibly missed some potential.

Whats the view on Jones after a season in Ulster?

A Lot to learn and alot of "bulk" needs added

Bazzo · 27-04-2018 09:57AM

launish116 wrote: »

Yes & No, factor in our injury/ACL record. There all young backrowers and will take time to get to this physicality/level. You'd hope they can slowly be filtered/rotated in. I'd rather have to many and edge out the NIQ's to other positions.

We have:
Murphy
Rea
Timmoney
Reidy
Coetzee

In theory we have coming through:
6 Rea jr/Montgomery
7 Hall/agnew
8 Jones/Dunleavy/Allison
Possibly missed some potential.

Deysel for another season too.

bilston · 27-04-2018 09:57AM

launish116 wrote: »

$ausage$ wrote: »

Question... maybe we have too many back rows now to give them all a chance?

Yes & No, factor in our injury/ACL record. There all young backrowers and will take time to get to this physicality/level. You'd hope they can slowly be filtered/rotated in. I'd rather have to many and edge out the NIQ's to other positions.

We have:
Murphy
Rea
Timmoney
Reidy
Coetzee

In theory we have coming through:
6 Rea jr/Montgomery
7 Hall/agnew
8 Jones/Dunleavy/Allison
Possibly missed some potential.

David McCann would be another with potential, still at school though and there is someone I've heard called McCartney who is meant to be promising. Never seen him play though...or not to my knowledge.

launish116 · 27-04-2018 09:59AM

stellenbosch wrote: »

Whats the view on Jones after a season in Ulster?

Honestly? He frustrated me a little from what I've seen. He's a big lump of a lad and could bring more. That's probably harsh and you'll soon realise I'm harsh with opinion.

$ausage$ wrote: »

I hear ya regards injuries and those goddamn knees, but let's say we have 5 spots on match day for backrow/locks if a sub
7 extra backrows? this year has by far been or worst with backrows and availability and we have recruited Nordi so if we didn't use them by now will we ever? I can't see many bar Nordi and I guess you could call Hendo one, being away to Ireland camp either.

This is also assuming that A's will have a fresh new crop coming in too.

Injuries, Ireland Call ups, Academy players realistically won't play back to back. Keep in mind this weekend we're pretty much at bare bones and could be playing 3 opensides. With all the different positions also, I reckon game time will be available. We've always been guilty of poor rotation and then parachuting people in, never to be seen again. I'm sure if we asked the academy at this age would they be happy 2 or 3 games to develop with a back row of murphy/coetzee they'd eat your arm off.

Not sure there will be many backrowers this intake? Agnew/Allison.

$ausage$ wrote: »

A Lot to learn and alot of "bulk" needs added

Yes sadly, we always seem like boys against men. Seem to lack strength/power. But realistically these are still very young men. This is partly the reason I think Rea Snr will do even better this season after another Pre-season and having year already behind him to adjust to this level.

irishfan9 · 27-04-2018 10:04AM

$ausage$ wrote: »

A Lot to learn and alot of "bulk" needs added

Jones and Dunleavy are more 6's

$ausage$ · 27-04-2018 10:29AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

$ausage$ wrote: »

A Lot to learn and alot of "bulk" needs added

Jones and Dunleavy are more 6's

Jones has played 8 his whole youth and 8 for irish u-20's.

launish116 · 27-04-2018 10:34AM

$ausage$ wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

$ausage$ wrote: »

A Lot to learn and alot of "bulk" needs added

Jones and Dunleavy are more 6's

Jones has played 8 his whole youth and 8 for irish u-20's.

Was thinking that, was only for Ulster he was on the Blindside.
Is Rea jr a Blindside? was impressed with his ball carrying. Could do a job of the rear of a scrum.

thomond2006 · 27-04-2018 10:42AM

Schalk van der Merwe is presumably gone at the end of the season? Yet another dud signing. I know he's on a two year deal but I imagine Ulster will come to an agreement.

launish116 · 27-04-2018 10:46AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Schalk van der Merwe is presumably gone at the end of the season? Yet another dud signing. I know he's on a two year deal but I imagine Ulster will come to an agreement.

Rumour or quoted? Paddy Ryan out of contract at Waratahs worth a punt?

thomond2006 · 27-04-2018 10:49AM

launish116 wrote: »

Rumour or quoted? Paddy Ryan out of contract at Waratahs worth a punt?

This is me thinking out loud. VDM has barely featured.

awec · 27-04-2018 10:51AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

This is me thinking out loud. VDM has barely featured.

It's cause he's ****e.

Bazzo · 27-04-2018 10:53AM

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/989819689378467840

Didn't realise Cooney was injured

irishfan9 · 27-04-2018 10:54AM

$ausage$ wrote: »

Jones has played 8 his whole youth and 8 for irish u-20's.

he isnt an 8 at pro level for me.

launish116 · 27-04-2018 10:55AM

Bazzo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/989819689378467840

Didn't realise Cooney was injured

Cooney HIA? with Shanahan playing for a contract?
4 opensides FML
Cave out of favour again?
Now for Munsters team?

Bazzo · 27-04-2018 10:58AM

launish116 wrote: »

Cooney HIA? with Shanahan playing for a contract?
4 opensides FML
Cave out of favour again?
Now for Munsters team?

Looks like they're fielding a weakened team

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/989820526783803392

launish116 · 27-04-2018 11:00AM

Bazzo wrote: »

launish116 wrote: »

Cooney HIA? with Shanahan playing for a contract?
4 opensides FML
Cave out of favour again?
Now for Munsters team?

Looks like they're fielding a weakened team

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/989820526783803392

Ulster have a great chance! Munster have rotated.

awec · 27-04-2018 11:03AM

launish116 wrote: »

Ulster have a great chance! Munster have rotated.

If Shanahan can put in a performance we might.

But realistically it's a bonus point win or nothing for Ulster.

molloyjh · 27-04-2018 11:15AM

awec wrote: »

If Shanahan can put in a performance we might.

But realistically it's a bonus point win or nothing for Ulster.

Yeah, even a LBP for Edinburgh will put it out of reach completely unfortunately. And they'll know exactly what they need to do ahead of their game against Glasgow. So a TBP win for Ulster and nothing at all for Edinburgh is what Ulster need.

launish116 · 27-04-2018 11:44AM

Glasgow have put out a strong team v Edinburgh. Game on!

sydthebeat · 27-04-2018 11:51AM

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah, even a LBP for Edinburgh will put it out of reach completely unfortunately. And they'll know exactly what they need to do ahead of their game against Glasgow. So a TBP win for Ulster and nothing at all for Edinburgh is what Ulster need.

glasgow have gone pretty much full strength and edinburgh have definitely rested players, starting with a strong bench.

if ulster can turn it on, it could be a good day for them

Riskymove · 27-04-2018 11:54AM

launish116 wrote: »

Glasgow have put out a strong team v Edinburgh. Game on!

as they have two weeks off next they need to get gametime

Dubinusa · 27-04-2018 12:04PM

Ulster fans rooting for Glasgow.....
Glasgow do need a performance as Scarlets drilled them last time out.

27-04-2018 12:14PM

Interesting on off the ball. Suggesting that Ulster might be better having a caretaker in for a year as a few international head coaches could become available after the World Cup.

awec · 27-04-2018 12:19PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Interesting on off the ball. Suggesting that Ulster might be better having a caretaker in for a year as a few international head coaches could become available after the World Cup.

Maybe in normal circumstances this might be true but Ulster needs stability right now, we've been dicked about quite enough already.

We cannot have another half-baked season.

irishbucsfan · 27-04-2018 12:22PM

awec wrote: »

Maybe in normal circumstances this might be true but Ulster needs stability right now, we've been dicked about quite enough already.

We cannot have another half-baked season.

Ferris was saying even just them appointing a caretaker and explicitly saying that they'll review things at the end of the world cup would be some stability. Or appoint someone local like Soper and give him a shot while they assess wider options.

It would go a huge way to helping with recuitment at least.

sydthebeat · 27-04-2018 12:23PM

Todd Blackadder will become available soon

Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

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