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The Academies

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Tony Wards Leinster Schools team of the year:

    1. James Gleeson(Belvedere) - u19
    2. Sean Molony(Blackrock) - u19
    3. Michael Milne(Roscrea) - u19*
    4. Cian Prendergast(Newbridge) - u18*
    5. Ryan Baird(St. Michaels) - u18*
    6. Scott Penny(St. Michaels) - u19*
    7. Ethan Baxter(St. Gerards) - u18
    8. Michael McGagh(Blackrock) - u19*
    9. Cormac Foley(St. Gerards) - u19*
    10. James Tarrant(Blackrock) - u19
    11. Eoin Carey(St. Marys) - u18
    12. Matt Grogan(Belvedere) - u18
    13. Liam Turner(Blackrock) - u19*
    14. Liam McMahon(Blackrock) - u19
    15. David Lacey(Belvedere) - u19

    * played for ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Tony Wards Leinster Schools team of the year:

    1. James Gleeson(Belvedere) - ?
    2. Sean Molony(Blackrock) - u19
    3. Michael Milne(Roscrea) - u19*
    4. Cian Prendergast(Newbridge) - u18*
    5. Ryan Baird(St. Michaels) - u18*
    6. Scott Penny(St. Michaels) - u19*
    7. Ethan Baxter(St. Gerards) - u18
    8. Michael McGagh(Blackrock) - u19*
    9. Cormac Foley(St. Gerards) - u19*
    10. James Tarrant(Blackrock) - u19
    11. Eoin Carey(St. Marys) - ?
    12. Matt Grogan(Belvedere) - ?
    13. Liam Turner(Blackrock) - u19*
    14. Liam McMahon(Blackrock) - u19
    15. David Lacey(Belvedere) - ?

    * played for ireland
    Lacey played county minor football in 2016 and 2017 so would almost certainly be an u19 during this season

    Would be interesting to see teams for other provinces.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 134 ✭✭Ally Bren 92


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Tony Wards Leinster Schools team of the year:

    1. James Gleeson(Belvedere) - ?
    2. Sean Molony(Blackrock) - u19
    3. Michael Milne(Roscrea) - u19*
    4. Cian Prendergast(Newbridge) - u18*
    5. Ryan Baird(St. Michaels) - u18*
    6. Scott Penny(St. Michaels) - u19*
    7. Ethan Baxter(St. Gerards) - u18
    8. Michael McGagh(Blackrock) - u19*
    9. Cormac Foley(St. Gerards) - u19*
    10. James Tarrant(Blackrock) - u19
    11. Eoin Carey(St. Marys) - ?
    12. Matt Grogan(Belvedere) - ?
    13. Liam Turner(Blackrock) - u19*
    14. Liam McMahon(Blackrock) - u19
    15. David Lacey(Belvedere) - ?

    * played for ireland

    Predergast and penny weren’t great in cup


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Predergast and penny weren’t great in cup

    tell tony ward


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    hopefully lacey and grogan give rugby a go after school..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Tony Wards Leinster Schools team of the year:

    1. James Gleeson(Belvedere) - u19
    2. Sean Molony(Blackrock) - u19
    3. Michael Milne(Roscrea) - u19*
    4. Cian Prendergast(Newbridge) - u18*
    5. Ryan Baird(St. Michaels) - u18*
    6. Scott Penny(St. Michaels) - u19*
    7. Ethan Baxter(St. Gerards) - u18
    8. Michael McGagh(Blackrock) - u19*
    9. Cormac Foley(St. Gerards) - u19*
    10. James Tarrant(Blackrock) - u19
    11. Eoin Carey(St. Marys) - u18
    12. Matt Grogan(Belvedere) - u18
    13. Liam Turner(Blackrock) - u19*
    14. Liam McMahon(Blackrock) - u19
    15. David Lacey(Belvedere) - u19

    * played for ireland
    I think Grogan might be u17..not 100% though


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    rumour that munster have cut as many as 6 players from their academy setup.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,780 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    rumour that munster have cut as many as 6 players from their academy setup.

    There was an Academy Screening session on Saturday in UL for potential new intake.. Wonder if it related..

    Are they swapping out some players to make room for new guys coming through.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    There was an Academy Screening session on Saturday in UL for potential new intake.. Wonder if it related..

    Are they swapping out some players to make room for new guys coming through.

    Only so many places in academy, if they want to take in a big class they have to make room in academy.

    If info true, it's a fairly ruthless gutting of the academy that will surely upset some people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    rumour that munster have cut as many as 6 players from their academy setup.
    Heard the same


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,131 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    rumour that munster have cut as many as 6 players from their academy setup.

    That is correct... was done yesterday and fairly ruthless to be honest.

    Most going to try with Connacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    callaway92 wrote: »
    That is correct... was done yesterday and fairly ruthless to be honest.

    Most going to try with Connacht.

    What players were cut guys and who is gonna try with Connacht?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,131 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Dunno if it's fair to name yet to be honest. 6 players, all gonna give Connacht a shot anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Dunno if it's fair to name yet to be honest. 6 players, all gonna give Connacht a shot anyway.

    More than 6 have been cut by my count.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Dunno if it's fair to name yet to be honest. 6 players, all gonna give Connacht a shot anyway.

    I'm sure it will be announced soon enough if the players have been informed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Some should probably look to Ulster too. As I glance over the roster, I have a good idea who was cut. I think it's a case of expectation. The management expect results too fast and the lads don't develop quick enough. Some of the lads could go into other provinces and do very well.
    I hope if Sean O Connor is cut. He gets a shot at Leinster. I was very impressed with him every time I have seen him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Some should probably look to Ulster too. As I glance over the roster, I have a good idea who was cut. I think it's a case of expectation. The management expect results too fast and the lads don't develop quick enough. Some of the lads could go into other provinces and do very well.
    I hope if Sean O Connor is cut. He gets a shot at Leinster. I was very impressed with him every time I have seen him.

    o'connor is not one


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,780 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    o'connor is not one

    Is it Academy cuts only or also sub-Academy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Is it Academy cuts only or also sub-Academy?

    told at least 6 full academy players cut.

    lots of sub academy not offered places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Was bill Johnston still in the academy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    More than 6 have been cut by my count.
    Ruthless as it was.. couldn't see ant of them having a future with Munster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Ok, names?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    How come Munster haven't released any of this information?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    rumour that munster have cut as many as 6 players from their academy setup.
    Have heard similar.
    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    There was an Academy Screening session on Saturday in UL for potential new intake.. Wonder if it related..

    Are they swapping out some players to make room for new guys coming through.
    Maybe but there would be screening for new intake this time regardless of any moving on
    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Some should probably look to Ulster too. As I glance over the roster, I have a good idea who was cut. I think it's a case of expectation. The management expect results too fast and the lads don't develop quick enough. Some of the lads could go into other provinces and do very well.
    I hope if Sean O Connor is cut. He gets a shot at Leinster. I was very impressed with him every time I have seen him.
    Sean O Connor wont be looked at by Leinster. They have enough within their own clubs and schools.
    Some may look at Ulster
    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Ok, names?
    Not fair to put any names cut. Think should wait for some sort of official confirmation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    How come Munster haven't released any of this information?
    Because they dont deem it necessary to do so yet and its not time to do it now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Was it a case of not good enough, or are Munster expecting an increase in quality coming into the academy over the next year or two? Just took a look at the academy list and found it hard to guess six names definitively, so there must be a couple of decent players going.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Indo reporting Munster aiming to cut down on number of academy players - quality over quantity... with some of that quality coming from south africa and leinster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Would the academies for next season be confirmed( but not public ) yet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Leinster academy players:

    Prop
    Oisin Heffernan(23) - presumably being released
    Jeremy Loughman(22) - with Munster, so presumably being released
    Vakh Abdaladze(22) - could move to dev deal due to progression if not academy year 2
    Jack Aungier(19) - presumably moving to academy year 2

    Hooker
    Sean McNulty(22) - could get a dev deal with Strauss leaving?
    Ronan Kelleher(20) - presumably moving to academy year 2

    Second Row
    Oisin Dowling(21) - presumably moving to academy year 2

    Backrow
    Josh Murphy(23) - presumably joining senior squad
    Will Connors(22) - presumably moving to year 3
    Caelan Doris(20) - could move to dev deal due to progression if not academy year 2

    Scrumhalf
    Charlie Rock(23) - presumably joining senior squad
    Hugh O'Sullivan(20) - presumably moving to academy year 2

    Outhalf
    Ciaran Frawley(20) - presumably moving to academy year 2

    Centre
    Conor O'Brien(22) - presumably moving to academy year 3
    Jimmy O'Brien(21) - presumably moving to academy year 3
    Gavin Mullin(20) - presumably moving to academy year 2

    Back Three
    Ian Fitzpatrick(24) - presumably being released
    Terry Kennedy(22) - presumably moving to academy year 3
    Hugo Keenan(22) - presumably moving to academy year 3
    Jordan Larmour(21) - joined senior squad during season.
    Jack Kelly(20) - presumably moving to academy year 3
    Tommy O'Brien(20) - presumably moving to academy year 2


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Would the academies for next season be confirmed( but not public ) yet?

    not fully, some players get added after JWC.


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