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    #3512
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2018/04/18/konami-not-renewing-uefa-champions-league-license.aspx
    Konami Not Renewing UEFA Champions League License

    Konami is not renewing the UEFA Champions League license for its Pro Evolution Soccer series – a license it has had for the last 10 years, and which was one of the few distinguishing licenses that set it apart from rival series FIFA.

    The Champions League – a prestigious yearly competition featuring the top European clubs – was playable in PES titles as a separate tournament as well as folded into the Master League career mode. The loss of the license also means that the accompanying Europa League is leaving the series.

    Jonas Lygaard, senior director of brand and business development for Konami, didn't elaborate much on Konami's reasoning behind the decision other than saying, "This year, however, we will shift our focus into other areas."

    The Champions League was an exclusive license for PES, which lags significantly behind FIFA in its number of official licenses. In recent years, however, Konami has signed non-exclusive license deals with individual clubs such as Barcelona and Liverpool to feature those teams' official kits and stadiums, as well as inked deals with legends of the sport like David Beckham for its MyClub fantasy mode.

    Rival FIFA from EA Sports currently has the exclusive World Cup license, but it's unknown at the time of this writing if EA will sign the Champions League license now that Konami has dropped out.

    We've contacted both Konami and EA Sports on the matter, and will update this story if we receive any significant information.





    :eek:


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    #3513
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,402 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Fortnite, PUGB and Overwatch get no shít because of not having a story and are wildly successful with no interest from fans in a plot. Why should COD be any different?

    There are loads of amazing plot-driven games out there. A yearly shootbang FPS doesn't need one and shouldn't waste resources on one.

    I think part of the complaint is that for the same price you usually pay for a yearly game that has single-player and multi-player modes, you'll now be buying just multi-player, albeit with one extra mp mode (which is essentially just a large-scale free-for-all).

    It's basically less in-game product than previous years and having to pay the same price for it.


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    #3514
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2018/04/18/konami-not-renewing-uefa-champions-league-license.aspx

    :eek:
    I guess anyone wanting to play CL football games will have to get used to playing them in FIFA's painful ultra-slow motion fashion so. If I could be gaming dictator for a day, banning EA out of existence would be one of the very first actions.


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    #3515
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I guess anyone wanting to play CL football games will have to get used to playing them in FIFA's painful ultra-slow motion fashion so. If I could be gaming dictator for a day, banning EA out of existence would be one of the very first actions.

    FIFA isn't good this year for sure, but's faster than PES by miles.


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    #3516
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Jerichoholic wrote: »
    FIFA isn't good this year for sure, but's faster than PES by miles.

    Possibly, I just don't like modern football games. I don't know quite what it is, but for most of the last decade they just seem so, so much slower. When you make a great ball out to a speedy winger, it just feels like he is jogging and all the other players are just jogging along with him. I can see how it might 'look' nicer, but there's just a serious lack of intensity to it in my opinion.


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    #3517
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,042 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    While trying to emulate the feel of a football game modern football forgot to make the games fun first.
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    #3518
    Doge
    Registered Users Posts: 8,992 ✭✭✭Doge


    All this talk of Call of Duty is making me reminisce about the original game and its sequel and how much it brought the feeling of being in the middle of a war to you, and put the likes of Medal to Honour to shame.


    I've dusted off the old CD's and I'm installing it as a I speak. Gonna be cool to see how it holds up after 15 years.

    I haven't touched the series since Modern Warfare II.

    A post for the Arcade and Retro forum I suppose.


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    #3519
    Greyfox
    Registered Users Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Possibly, I just don't like modern football games. I don't know quite what it is, but for most of the last decade they just seem so, so much slower.

    True, I loved pro evo back in it's heyday, I've tried the latest fifa and pro evo and after 1 game I'm bored, the games are too much like real football


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    #3520
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Doge wrote: »
    All this talk of Call of Duty is making me reminisce about the original game and its sequel and how much it brought the feeling of being in the middle of a war to you, and put the likes of Medal to Honour to shame.


    I've dusted off the old CD's and I'm installing it as a I speak. Gonna be cool to see how it holds up after 15 years.

    I haven't touched the series since Modern Warfare II.

    A post for the Arcade and Retro forum I suppose.
    Much the same myself, haven't cared an ounce for COD since MWII single player campaign.

    Was just thinking about the FPS genre - I wonder how an open-world WW2 FPS would do in a similar vein as Kingdom Come Deliverance.


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    #3521
    Notorious
    Registered Users Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I'd replace citing with pure speculation on that comment. Seen nothing concrete other than journos mouthing off with no sources. Could just be performance issues.

    Aye, that's what I meant. All pure speculation.


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    #3522
    Sieghardt
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Sieghardt


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    Much the same myself, haven't cared an ounce for COD since MWII single player campaign.

    Was just thinking about the FPS genre - I wonder how an open-world WW2 FPS would do in a similar vein as Kingdom Come Deliverance.

    That's being made it's called Hell Let Loose


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    #3523
    Doge
    Registered Users Posts: 8,992 ✭✭✭Doge


    Sieghardt wrote: »
    That's being made it's called Hell Let Loose

    That looks amazing!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Jrq8MZwg0


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    #3524
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Sieghardt wrote: »
    That's being made it's called Hell Let Loose
    Will have to check it out!


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    #3525
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Doge wrote: »
    That looks amazing!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Jrq8MZwg0

    Lost me at multiplayer game.


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    #3526
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,906 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »
    yup, one of the best fps campaigns of the last 10 years.
    The time travel level and a couple of others are absolutely amazing.


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    #3527
    Taylor365
    Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    Lost me at multiplayer game.
    Same, definitely not what i had in mind when i say like KCD...


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    #3528
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Doge wrote: »
    That looks amazing!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Jrq8MZwg0

    Looks very good!

    The guys mentions 'Post Scriptum' in the video, this is that:



    Very similar.


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    #3529
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/987054875027562496?s=19

    Motivational skills 101 :rolleyes:


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    #3530
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    ERG89 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/987054875027562496?s=19

    Motivational skills 101 :rolleyes:

    That's a really shít way to treat your staff.


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    #3531
    earthwormjack
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    There's another quote further down the list of replies explaining that it was just a badly worded joke and there's obviously no 90 hour week.


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    #3532
    johnny_ultimate
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    Even if this case was an ill-judged or poorly-translated joke, crunch is a very serious plague across video game development and needs to be completely eradicated. There’s very good reasons why work weeks are as short as they are (strong case that they’re too long in their standard ~40 Hour guise TBH). The ‘gag’ has gotten as strong a reaction as it has because it’s all to believable.

    Too many horror stories of 12-hour days and six-day weeks for months on end. No defending it TBH: like all jobs some longer days during periods of pressure are perhaps inevitable, but the particular and prolonged intensity of it in video game development comes across as legitimately dangerous to people’s health and wellbeing. Not to mention the work is going to be sloppier and inefficient anyway. If game development demands that level of crunch, the process is fundamentally broken.


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    #3533
    earthwormjack
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    ^^Absolutely. I've no idea how programmers and the like are expected to get anything productive done working 10+ hours for days on end. Your mind and body would be fried.

    Even though it was a sh*tty joke, it's nice to see the gaming community call them out fairly quick on it not being acceptable.


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    #3534
    Benzino
    Registered Users Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭Benzino


    While on the topic of crunch, Blood, Sweat, and Pixels is a good read/listen. Talks about the struggle indie and AAA studios go through making a game, with chapters on Stardew Valley, Uncharted 4 and Diablo 3.


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    #3535
    megaten
    Registered Users Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭megaten


    Benzino wrote: »
    While on the topic of crunch, Blood, Sweat, and Pixels is a good read/listen. Talks about the struggle indie and AAA studios go through making a game, with Chapters on Stardew Valley, Uncharted 4, Diablo 3

    I think the kindle version is currently on sale on amazon.co.uk too.


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    #3536
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Surely it's not that good?

    DarpWzTVMAEES1y.jpg:large


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    #3537
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,402 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    RasTa wrote: »
    Surely it's not that good?

    I've been staying away from reading any reviews or watching footage of the game, so I don't know what the game does that is making it worthy of these scores. But from what I have seen on Twitter, even from people who only started playing it today and are a few hours in, is that if it keeps up the level of quality they've experienced so far, those scores are largely justified.


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    #3538
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    Even if this case was an ill-judged or poorly-translated joke, crunch is a very serious plague across video game development and needs to be completely eradicated. There’s very good reasons why work weeks are as short as they are (strong case that they’re too long in their standard ~40 Hour guise TBH). The ‘gag’ has gotten as strong a reaction as it has because it’s all to believable.

    Too many horror stories of 12-hour days and six-day weeks for months on end. No defending it TBH: like all jobs some longer days during periods of pressure are perhaps inevitable, but the particular and prolonged intensity of it in video game development comes across as legitimately dangerous to people’s health and wellbeing. Not to mention the work is going to be sloppier and inefficient anyway. If game development demands that level of crunch, the process is fundamentally broken.
    12 hour days during heavy crunch? If they're lucky.

    As for the follow up replies backtracking on the original statement, not to be too cynical but they'd have more weight if they didn't come from the Community Manager and Head of Publishing.


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    #3539
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,245 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Interesting and very unexpected bit of news: the developers at Campo Santo - the team behind Firewatch - are joining Valve. They’re continuing work on their new game and working on Firewatch’s Switch port, but goes without saying that a team primarily interested in narrative and single-player games joining Valve is a rather curious development indeed.

    https://twitter.com/camposanto/status/987806895736958976?s=21


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    #3540
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,627 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Could that mean that in the valley of the gods could be pc exclusive?


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    #3541
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,201 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Could that mean that in the valley of the gods could be pc exclusive?

    None of Valve's other games are are they?


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