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Hey quick question since we seem to have a lot of cantrips to play with in the party.
Minor Illusion - You can, for 1 minute - and without breaking concentration since it requires none - create multiple discrete sounds within a 30 foot range. The text doesn't say you can't create multiple images in a similar manner... Just wondering if, with a little practice and co-operation, if more than one of us has Minor Illusion can we create the impression of a certain degree of animation in an illusion by taking turns to show individual frames of animation, which in combination with the thunder and fog and maybe some dancing lights would work like a zoetrope to imply movement? Also, can you switch from sound to image in the same casting (the wording suggests no).

By the way, speaking of cantrips, I went looking for that Thunderclap that someone did the other day to silence the bells for a minute, it turns out there are tonnes of ones that aren't in the PHB/SRD - If you're new 5e and took something like Friends (Charm person with a hangover) because you didn't know what else to do, take a look at Green-Flame Blade, Booming Blade, Create Bonfire, Mold Earth, Primal Savagery - there's some great stuff with strong thematic options out there. Also, if everyone else already knew this, thanks a bunch!

Also can I just say I'm loving the value for money OG is getting out of Mage Hand

Banjo wrote: »

By the way, speaking of cantrips, I went looking for that Thunderclap that someone did the other day to silence the bells for a minute, it turns out there are tonnes of ones that aren't in the PHB/SRD - If you're new 5e and took something like Friends (Charm person with a hangover) because you didn't know what else to do, take a look at Green-Flame Blade, Booming Blade, Create Bonfire, Mold Earth, Primal Savagery - there's some great stuff with strong thematic options out there. Also, if everyone else already knew this, thanks a bunch!

Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, Elemental Evil Player's Companion*, and Xanathar's Guide to Everything all have extra spells and cantrips. Xanathar's Guide is almost like a Player's Handbook 1.5 with loads of extra subclasses. Volo's Guide to Monster has a few extra player races too.


*free official PDF

Banjo wrote: »

Yeah, and if you don't have $300 to spend on books, most of the info is available through a bunch of websites (gl393-dnd5th.wikia.com/ and https://donjon.bin.sh/ have been very helpful) if you're willing to piece the info together 'cause no one wants to get sued by putting it all up in one place too conveniently. It's still relevant for the current characters, as anyone with spellcasting capability will be earning more cantrips as we go, so the options are there. I've a google doc with them all in there (i think - ignoring any racial perk cantrips except my own).

There's a few references to a new book coming soon (It's not Mordercai and Rigby, but it sounds a lot like it. OOOOO-ooooooooh!) which I'm sure will shake it all up again in a couple of months, and at the rate we're moving that will be in about 2 long rest's time

Here, what's the story with Clerics? They seem to have a really, REALLY narrow spell list - 2 options per spell level in each domain. Is there a general pool they can all choose from too? Or have they been deliberately shifted from walking first aid kit to half-way between Caster and Engine of Death? It's not immediately obvious from the PHB, or I'm just not reading it right.

There's an Android app called 5th edition spell book that can have all the spells once you update it.

Cleric domain spells are extra spells, they have a pretty big list of general spells too.

Druids and Rangers are the walking first aid kit now thanks to the wording of a second level spell that's supposed to be used in combat but can be used outside of it and heal the whole party for 10d6 each.

yeah, but depending on your domain you get a list of 2 spells per level.
So, if you choose Life as your domain, one of those spells is Cure Wounds, which scales up as you cast it in higher slots (think of it as the lovechild emerging from an orgy of Cure Light Wounds, Cure Critical Wounds and a slide whistle).
That's on the general Cleric list. But it's a life domain spell, so presumably you have to be life domain to learn it?
PHB - "Your choice grants you domain spells and other features when you choose it at 1st level"
I mean this isn't important now. But if/when my warlock falls into a lava pit that doesn't conveniently get out of the way, my Thunderlizard will want to know.

Banjo wrote: »

yeah, but depending on your domain you get a list of 2 spells per level.
So, if you choose Life as your domain, one of those spells is Cure Wounds, which scales up as you cast it in higher slots (think of it as the lovechild emerging from an orgy of Cure Light Wounds, Cure Critical Wounds and a slide whistle).
That's on the general Cleric list. But it's a life domain spell, so presumably you have to be life domain to learn it?
PHB - "Your choice grants you domain spells and other features when you choose it at 1st level"
I mean this isn't important now. But if/when my warlock falls into a lava pit that doesn't conveniently get out of the way, my Thunderlizard will want to know.

Clerics are prepared casters. They get to pick a limited number, level + wisdom mod, of their spells every end of long rest to use that day. Domain spells are always prepared and don't count as one of that limited number.

Sorry can't do tonight

It's going to kill you though when we waltz right through your exquisitely crafted Moana tribute archipelago without looking at anything and spend a week in the vague sketch based on that time your dog shat on a wasp.

Necrominus wrote: »

I must admit I was not expecting that old hag to have 70HP last night. It seems they (old women) were warned of our arrival...

Not to get too metagamey but when you look through the Monster Manual you'll see the low level monsters will usually have a good, average, and bad stat from AC, HP, and damage output/inflicting status conditions. It's true of higher level monsters too but it's harder to tell because they have more skills and so do the players.

Look at a Brown Bear and an Animated Armour which are both the same difficulty according to the monster Manual.

Brown Bear
AC: 11
HP: 34
Attacks: Bite +5 to hit, damage 1d8+4; Claws +5 to hit, damage 2d6+4
The bear uses both attacks on its turn

Animated Armour
AC: 18 and its immune to some damage types and status conditions
HP: 33
Attack: +4 to hit, damage 1d6+2

Have to say I was delighted with that. Love me some Vivimancy. So sorry to everyone who wasn't me who's been sitting around for 2 nights waiting for me to stop ****ing around with meat-plants and mutation booths. If it weren't for the lack of oxygen and the place falling apart I'd still be in there now, more owl spit than elf.

And thanks for the rescue, Tigger!

It's not that we didn't want to do it. It's that half the party fecked off and I didn't want to do it on my own. Also, I had an ironing board, a chain sail and 300 mph winds to play with, who wants to be stuck indoors designing sewage systems on a day like that?

Fourier wrote: »

What did you think of TftYP? Do you play in your own setting?

I set it in a generic Forgotten Realmsish world with a flimsy scavenger hunt story tying it all together.

It's a bit of a mixed bag really. Sunless Citadel and Forge of Fury were good. The White Dragon Wyrmling in Sunless Citadel is a bit tough for a first level party though, especially the breath attack. White Plume Mountain wasn't good and Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan was ok. The environmental hazard in Tamoachan meant my players couldn't take rests until it cleared was the best thing about it. There's seven of them so they end up being a little underlevelled for each area.


I'm prepping Dead in Thay at the minute and it certainly lives up to the mega in megadungeon. But who doesn't like a Necromancer civil war?

Fourier wrote: »

I'm interested in getting it, played most of them in 1E, though haven't played the 3E ones.

I hope Wizards release some material from the other settings (though I really like the Realms, especially Al Qadim and Chult, which we've gotten) like Dark Sun.

I haven't been playing that long but I'd like to see Dark Sun too. It seems like a pretty big change of pace from the usual Tolkienesque settings.

There's two books coming out this year after Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes and I've seen it speculated that they'll be released too close together to both be adventures so a setting book could be on the way.