The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

NuMarvel · 18-04-2018 12:32PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I would be reported by people here and maybe thread banned because people here would go nuts as reality is too much for them and to appease people I might be sacrificed.

I'm failing to see the downside so far...

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I have to say, if the legalisation of any medical procedure was dependent on me watching a video of it, we'd all still be using leeches! Especially anything to do with the eyes :eek:

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MagicIRL · 18-04-2018 12:32PM

Is there any legitimate governance over what both sides can display as advertising on their referendum posters?

I saw one today regarding aborting a baby at six months, yet the referendum is restricted to 3 months.

No matter what side you lie on, that is a blatant and false lie.

Can I formally complain somewhere?

nozzferrahhtoo · 18-04-2018 12:33PM

RobertKK wrote: »

You want a world without reality.

Thats your narrative. Strawmanning is your goal it seems.

What we actually want however is a world where we as parents get to choose what aspects of reality to expose our child to in a given order.

Because as parents we know what stage our child is at, what they are capable of, what they are prepared for and more.

Graphic images of such nature bypasses that and can expose children to things that we are parents were not opting to expose them to yet, or had not laid the foundation to prepare them for.

It would be no different than sticking up a large picture of human copulation. Many children at a certain age would not have the basic foundations laid out for them to be prepared to parse such imagery.

But when an agenda is strong enough, clearly you people do not really care what you expose anyone to, or what stage of psychological well being any children may or may not be in.

ohnonotgmail · 18-04-2018 12:34PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Is there any legitimate governance over what both sides can display as advertising on their referendum posters?

I saw one today regarding aborting a baby at six months, yet the referendum is restricted to 3 months.

No matter what side you lie on, that is a blatant and false lie.

Can I formally complain somewhere?

It seems there really isn't anywhere to complain to.

Zubeneschamali · 18-04-2018 12:34PM

NuMarvel wrote: »

vote no out of uncertainty

This is the push from the Youth Defense posters: nothing to do with anything except freaking people out and then saying "if you are freaked out vote no".

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Zubeneschamali · 18-04-2018 12:35PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Can I formally complain somewhere?

No, just vote against the lies. Tell other people why you are doing it.

RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:40PM

robarmstrong wrote: »

You'd be banned/threadbanned because you'd be posting up what this forum categorizes as a graphic and offensive image.

Have you accepted that the picture you posted is woefully inaccurate yet or are you channeling your inner Mayweather with all this dodge and run?

Dodge and run is people wanting to avoid reality of an abortion.
It is counted as inaccurate as it doesn’t suit the narrative of compassion that the yes side are lying about.

RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:42PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Is there any legitimate governance over what both sides can display as advertising on their referendum posters?

I saw one today regarding aborting a baby at six months, yet the referendum is restricted to 3 months.

No matter what side you lie on, that is a blatant and false lie.

Can I formally complain somewhere?

It is not a lie that in certain cases the unborn can be aborted up to the point of viability in the proposed legislation, which would be near the 6 month period.

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robarmstrong · 18-04-2018 12:43PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Dodge and run is people wanting to avoid reality of an abortion.
It is counted as inaccurate as it doesn’t suit the narrative of compassion that the yes side are lying about.

is the picture you posted an accurate representation of what a 12 week unborn fetus looks like?

Sofiztikated · 18-04-2018 12:43PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Dodge and run is people wanting to avoid reality of an abortion.
It is counted as inaccurate as it doesn’t suit the narrative of compassion that the yes side are lying about.

You really do have some neck.

RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:46PM

robarmstrong wrote: »

is the picture you posted an accurate representation of what a 12 week unborn fetus looks like?

I would post an image of a real 12 week old to compare but people would look to get me banned because they don’t want to deal with reality.

RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:47PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

You really do have some neck.

Yet you attack me rather than the post and you talk about having some neck...

robarmstrong · 18-04-2018 12:47PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I would post an image of a real 12 week old to compare but people would look to get me banned because they don’t want to deal with reality.

So what you're saying is that the picture was not an accurate representation of a 12 week fetus?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 18-04-2018 12:48PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It seems there really isn't anywhere to complain to.

If they're on an esb poll, contact the esb.

If they're hung at a height less than 2.5 metres, contact the local council.

If they don't display the details of who commissioned AND who printed them call the gards. That covers the "one in five" ones btw, made up a printer.

But apart from that apparently you can say any auld made up bollocks in the run up to a referendum and it's nobody's responsibility.

baylah17 · 18-04-2018 12:48PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

This is a great example. It's made of plastic but it looks human and elicits our emotional responses. Should we protect the plastic baby because of our perception of this "humanity", whatever that means?

Shall we amend the constitution to protect all things with a human-like face?

Will nobody think of the Barbie Dolls!:D:D:D:D

RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:48PM

robarmstrong wrote: »

So what you're saying is that the picture was not an accurate representation of a 12 week fetus?

It is without the umbilical cord and colour is different but looks very human.

January · 18-04-2018 12:48PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I would post an image of a real 12 week old to compare but people would look to get me banned because they don’t want to deal with reality.

The reality is that that is not what a 12 week foetus looks like you and I both know that.

seamus · 18-04-2018 12:49PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Dodge and run is people wanting to avoid reality of an abortion.
It is counted as inaccurate as it doesn’t suit the narrative of compassion that the yes side are lying about.

I assume then Robert you'd have no concern if I stood outside a primary school and told all of the children leaving that the bible is made-up fairytales, that there is no God, no heaven, or hell, and when you die, that's it, you're gone, you rot in the ground, and everything you ever did and everyone you ever knew and loved will be one day forgotten.

You'd be happy for me to lay out the realities of existence to 4 year olds as they walk out of school, right?

MagicIRL · 18-04-2018 12:49PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It is not a lie that in certain cases the unborn can be aborted up to the point of viability in the proposed legislation, which would be near the 6 month period.

It shall be lawful to carry out a termination of pregnancy in accordance with this Head where two medical practitioners certify that, in their reasonable opinion formed in good faith:

(a) there is a risk to the life of, or of serious harm to the health of, the pregnant woman,
(b) the foetus has not reached viability, and
(c) it is appropriate to carry out the termination of pregnancy in order to avert that risk.

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You're probably right that it's not technically a lie, so I'm in the wrong on that. But it is a complete bending of the wording to suit a narrative and leaves an awful lot out to make it's point which is still false advertising.

"If Killing an Unborn Baby at Six Months Bothers You, But Killing a Adult Woman does not, Vote No." seems more accurate and in line with the language of the original poster. But I very much doubt anyone would want to use that slogan to garner votes but it is wrong to just omit details on something so important for the voter.

circadian · 18-04-2018 12:50PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I would post an image of a real 12 week old to compare but people would look to get me banned because they don’t want to deal with reality.

robarmstrong · 18-04-2018 12:50PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It is without the umbilical cord and colour is different but looks very human.

So it's not an accurate representation, gotcha.

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RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:50PM

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Can you tell the repealers to talk about the unborn too as they seem to forget what an abortion is about.
Most just talk about women and compassion and trust women, God forbid if they mention the unborn life.

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January · 18-04-2018 12:51PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Can you tell the repealers to talk about the unborn too as they seem to forget what an abortion is about.
Most just talk about women and compassion and trust women, God forbid if they mention the unborn life.

What about the unborn why should it be more important than my life or the children I've already given birth to? Answer that

kylith · 18-04-2018 12:51PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It is without the umbilical cord and colour is different but looks very human.

I disagree. It looks nothing like the dolly you posted.

RobertKK · 18-04-2018 12:53PM

circadian wrote: »

Ask the mods to allow a picture of a real 12 week life because one can put their hand to face as it does represent what one really wants to see...nothing that doesn’t suit.

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