PSNI Recruitment - Stage 4 - The Medical

RedPool2891 · 14-11-2017 3:16pm

I've went throught the whole process declaring everything (probably unnecessarily tbh) but it worked out ok for me. Personally speaking, you're better declaring something they can write-off rather than not declaring it and they find out as it can look deceptive and dishonest.

I would declare it and put a note to explain that the fractures were not due to any conditions per se, but rather as a result of an accident which has not affected anything since you've healed. I think they're more concerned about ongoing issues or hidden issues. We've all had accidents of some form or another. It's nothing to worry about.

Banterbus28 · 14-11-2017 3:22pm

The form your GP fills out will have summary of all major injuries and all minor/major procedures.

KnightRider21 · 14-11-2017 4:47pm

Thanks guys, ill note them down just to be safe

goodburger1 · 14-11-2017 8:46pm

I noted everything on my medical. Failed it though and appealed and passed.

Sherlock17 · 27-11-2017 8:39pm

On my MHQ I have put down that I had a short spell of anxiety 2 years ago. I’m worried this will rule me out of the campaign. Has anyone else any experience with this?

Trainee bob · 28-11-2017 7:35am

my Dr filled mine out in front of me and I questioned the bit about fractures etc and he looked at me as if I was stupid and said has it left u disabled or dysfunctional,he said it uses that terminology so that people don't list a lot of unnecessary info because all they care about is has it left any lasting implications, just answer the question lol that's what my Dr said anyway

Thierryonwii · 28-11-2017 6:58pm

Guys in regards to the sickness absence over the past three years, does this only mean sickness that I’ve needed treatment for or a doctors sick line?

cuckoo123 · 28-11-2017 7:33pm

Bob, did you get any evidence from doctor, i.e. medical notes etc?

I just have a couple of minor things that didn't turn into anything but was referred to physio etc. But my GP has just signed the form and not provided any further evidence.

Just trying to figure out if I should go back to get my notes or whether my GP signing to say I'm fit and well will be enough.

Trainee bob · 28-11-2017 7:40pm

cuckoo123 wrote: »

Bob, did you get any evidence from doctor, i.e. medical notes etc?

I just have a couple of minor things that didn't turn into anything but was referred to physio etc. But my GP has just signed the form and not provided any further evidence.

Just trying to figure out if I should go back to get my notes or whether my GP signing to say I'm fit and well will be enough.

My Dr was pretty blunt and said answer the question directly because they don't want to or have any need for all details,if they did they would have asked for everything,the fact that they are specific in the questions means you give a specific answer,also told me to Wyse up and stop overthinking things,because there is nothing wrong with me lol I have had minor things aswell but no operations etc and nothing with any affect,have since spoken to serving police and they are telling me the same thing,don't overconplicate a direct question

Trainee bob · 28-11-2017 7:40pm

cuckoo123 wrote: »

Bob, did you get any evidence from doctor, i.e. medical notes etc?

I just have a couple of minor things that didn't turn into anything but was referred to physio etc. But my GP has just signed the form and not provided any further evidence.

Just trying to figure out if I should go back to get my notes or whether my GP signing to say I'm fit and well will be enough.

My Dr was pretty blunt and said answer the question directly because they don't want to or have any need for all details,if they did they would have asked for everything,the fact that they are specific in the questions means you give a specific answer,also told me to Wyse up and stop overthinking things,because there is nothing wrong with me lol I have had minor things aswell but no operations etc and nothing with any affect,have since spoken to serving police and they are telling me the same thing,don't overconplicate a direct question

Trainee bob · 28-11-2017 7:43pm

at the end of the day your Dr has all your records in front of him and he has no reason to tell nothing but the truth and he has stamped it so who are we to question a medical professional ,although i did ask questions etc through paranoya like yourself, because there is nothing you start to think there should be lol

Trainee bob · 05-12-2017 11:39pm

so really wanted to avoid tablets before the medical but the cold has just arrived badly so couple of cold and flu had to be taken ðŸ˜

sparkylarky · 11-12-2017 12:10pm

Hi guys/ladies

I am a bit concerned about the medical requirments for eyesight, the website says

Bilateral visual acuity, using corrective lenses if necessary of at least 6.6 (6/7.5 in the better eye and 6/12 in the other eye)
Unaided acuity 6/36 binocularly

I know I can't meet the unaided standerds so I am wondering could contact lenses ne an acceptable alternative? The prison service had stricter slandereds but they would accept contact lenses instead pretty much, any body any better enlightened than me on this issue?

Thanks

Trainee bob · 11-12-2017 12:14pm

hey guys so what did use all wear to the medical.?as far as non prescribed drugs like paracetamol etc do we need to take a list ?

RedPool2891 · 11-12-2017 1:16pm

Hi Sparky - I'm not sure on the eyesight thing but I'm sure someone will weigh in to help.

Bob - I wore a mankini as it was easy to remove. And shoes, obviously :P

Trainee bob · 11-12-2017 1:55pm

haha ur a funny boy lol joggers etc I'm assuming will be fine

Trainee bob · 11-12-2017 2:00pm

on another note is the medical centre easily located?when I type it into maps there seems to be a lot of options round same area?

RedPool2891 · 11-12-2017 2:11pm

Yes - stop overthinking things and relax lol!

It's easily located - you'll be directed where to park and are essentially hand-guided to where you need to go. I have a funny feeling you'll have no difficulties peeing on demand!

Goonerdee · 14-12-2017 3:26pm

Is Asthma a barrier to getting in?

RedPool2891 · 14-12-2017 3:35pm

It would probably depend on the severity. I'd imagine if it can be easily controlled, you'd be fine.

Anotherhopeful · 07-01-2018 11:21pm

Hey guys ive my medical shortly.... im under investigation for possible IBD but have been asymptomatic for a year abd the condition hasnt been confirmed im still under going tests is there a chance it could rule me out even though its not yet confirmed?

Also do you see a DR on the day or just a nurse?

Banterbus28 · 07-01-2018 11:48pm

Very few things are going to deny you entry.

Police have to consider reasonable adjustments unlike the Armed Forces.

You just may end up getting reduced ill health benefits reference pension.

mrlovalova22 · 08-01-2018 12:22pm

Morning folks,

Unfortunately I am currently off sick at the moment with work, due to circumstances out of my control.

Does anyone know if that is a big factor in the medical/ is it asked about?

Cheers!

Banterbus28 · 08-01-2018 12:30pm

If it's mental health it my may have an impact. The police have a duty of care to you and and the public.

The PSNI operate in a divided society, high pressure and the threat of terrorist attempts to murder police officers on a reasonably regular basis compared to other GB forces is going to take a toll.

You will be expected to carry a firearm, and if you have a moderate to severe mental health limitations then that is an obvious risk.

I have had low mood before and I have been assured that that will be grand. As I have never been medicated.

C3POPO · 08-01-2018 1:24pm

mrlovalova22 wrote: »

Morning folks,

Unfortunately I am currently off sick at the moment with work, due to circumstances out of my control.

Does anyone know if that is a big factor in the medical/ is it asked about?

Cheers!

If I remember correctly, the medical form asks how many days you have been off sick in your current job and asks why. I would think that they would only investigate if it is a significant number of days and they would want backup from your GP. If it is a few days with flu or something, then you would be grand. That's just my opinion though!

Anotherhopeful · 09-01-2018 5:32pm

sparkylarky wrote: »

Hi guys/ladies

I am a bit concerned about the medical requirments for eyesight, the website says

Bilateral visual acuity, using corrective lenses if necessary of at least 6.6 (6/7.5 in the better eye and 6/12 in the other eye)
Unaided acuity 6/36 binocularly

I know I can't meet the unaided standerds so I am wondering could contact lenses ne an acceptable alternative? The prison service had stricter slandereds but they would accept contact lenses instead pretty much, any body any better enlightened than me on this issue?

Thanks

Part of the medical is doing an eyesight test unaided incase your glasses are hit off or something gets thrown at your face can you continue with no lenses. It has to be completely unaided.

NiK9 · 21-03-2018 11:21pm

Am I right in thinking that if you pass the PCA you get an envelope with medical forms that your GP needs to sign?
Do you also get a date for your medical with the form or does that come by email after?

jwhdkl5736 · 22-03-2018 10:37am

NiK9 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that if you pass the PCA you get an envelope with medical forms that your GP needs to sign?
Do you also get a date for your medical with the form or does that come by email after?

Yep, just as you're leaving. Everyone get's PASS/FAIL envelopes and they're told not to open them until they leave the site. However, if your envelope has a 'spine' inside, and it's thicker, you're going to the next stage.

NiK9 · 14-04-2018 9:27pm

So what exactly happens at the medical. Obviously height, weight,eyesight and hearing are tested aswell at talking through past injuries and drugs test.

But what else do you have to do? Basic movement tests such as lunges or squating? Moving body parts in certain ways to see range of movement? Anything out of the ordinary?

Banterbus28 · 14-04-2018 9:30pm

I don't think they do the grope and cough lol

NiK9 · 14-04-2018 9:35pm

Banterbus28 wrote: »

I don't think they do the grope and cough lol

The funny thing is most people still assume that that exam is to do with a person's ****s.
It's actually to make sure you dont have a hernia where the intestine enters the sack lol.
Just a wee PSA lmao.

Banterbus28 · 14-04-2018 9:39pm

Remember the police are not DDA exempt and so have to consider a reasonable adjustment if you have a condition that it covered by DDA

NiK9 · 14-04-2018 9:44pm

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Remember the police are not DDA exempt and so have to consider a reasonable adjustment if you have a condition that it covered by DDA

I actually thought about that before. Last year a US police dept was the first to have double leg amputee join. During an Interview he said he
"was luckier than the other officers because atleast during long shift his legs wouldn't get tired."
Lmao what an amazingly positive attitude to have.

Homer01 · 14-04-2018 9:55pm

NiK9 wrote: »

So what exactly happens at the medical. Obviously height, weight,eyesight and hearing are tested aswell at talking through past injuries and drugs test.

But what else do you have to do? Basic movement tests such as lunges or squating? Moving body parts in certain ways to see range of movement? Anything out of the ordinary?

Basically all that plus a lung capacity test and a urine sample.

Depending on what's in your form you might see the doctor too.

NiK9 · 14-04-2018 10:01pm

Homer01 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

So what exactly happens at the medical. Obviously height, weight,eyesight and hearing are tested aswell at talking through past injuries and drugs test.

But what else do you have to do? Basic movement tests such as lunges or squating? Moving body parts in certain ways to see range of movement? Anything out of the ordinary?

Basically all that plus a lung capacity test and a urine sample.

Depending on what's in your form you might see the doctor too.

Brilliant, thanks Homer. Hope you're still enjoying GV.

Homer01 · 14-04-2018 10:05pm

NiK9 wrote: »

Brilliant, thanks Homer. Hope you're still enjoying GV.

Living the dream

It's been tough but equally rewarding.

Banterbus28 · 14-04-2018 10:11pm

NiK9 wrote: »

Homer01 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

So what exactly happens at the medical. Obviously height, weight,eyesight and hearing are tested aswell at talking through past injuries and drugs test.

But what else do you have to do? Basic movement tests such as lunges or squating? Moving body parts in certain ways to see range of movement? Anything out of the ordinary?

Basically all that plus a lung capacity test and a urine sample.

Depending on what's in your form you might see the doctor too.

Brilliant, thanks Homer. Hope you're still enjoying GV.

That Lung Function Test tubey thing?

NiK9 · 14-04-2018 10:12pm

Banterbus28 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

Homer01 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

So what exactly happens at the medical. Obviously height, weight,eyesight and hearing are tested aswell at talking through past injuries and drugs test.

But what else do you have to do? Basic movement tests such as lunges or squating? Moving body parts in certain ways to see range of movement? Anything out of the ordinary?

Basically all that plus a lung capacity test and a urine sample.

Depending on what's in your form you might see the doctor too.

Brilliant, thanks Homer. Hope you're still enjoying GV.

That Lung Function Test tubey thing?

Yea the thing that looks like a giant vape that you blow instead of suck. Lmao

Banterbus28 · 14-04-2018 10:13pm

NiK9 wrote: »

Banterbus28 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

Homer01 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

So what exactly happens at the medical. Obviously height, weight,eyesight and hearing are tested aswell at talking through past injuries and drugs test.

But what else do you have to do? Basic movement tests such as lunges or squating? Moving body parts in certain ways to see range of movement? Anything out of the ordinary?

Basically all that plus a lung capacity test and a urine sample.

Depending on what's in your form you might see the doctor too.

Brilliant, thanks Homer. Hope you're still enjoying GV.

That Lung Function Test tubey thing?

Yea the thing that looks like a giant vape that you blow instead of suck. Lmao

Smokers no smokey before medical

Homer01 · 14-04-2018 10:39pm

Banterbus28 wrote: »

That Lung Function Test tubey thing?

That's the one. Spirometer I think it's called.

tatiebeans27 · 18-09-2018 2:30pm

Hi everyone

first time poster, long time lurker!! Just wondered if anyone's had to do a medical review after appeal or what happens at one? I failed my medical a few weeks ago for a really minor injury I'd done myself and was told I could be reconsidered in another couple of weeks. Now I'm going to an upcoming medical review at the same place and just wondered what's in store for me! I've passed everything else and am quite high on m/l so I just can't wait to have everything finally ticked off and be waiting for the call! :unsure:

Goonerdee · 19-09-2018 7:46pm

Ive never been that far unfortunately. Was it a recent injury or is it a recurring one. If its a recent injury I reckon you will be fine, if its recurring they might want to investigate it further, either by carrying out tests in an attempt to aggravate it or maybe it will be just questions. Hopefully someone on here who has been that far will come along.

Mike079 · 05-10-2018 7:37pm

Can anyone help a brotha out with a question?

Thebigwait · 13-04-2019 12:33am

Hi all , does anyone have any ideas or experience in appealing a medical for hearing?

Is it better to e.g. Get a 2 nd opinion from a consultant that would be more accurate and possibly overturn the original finding or is there certain hearing aids that can be used, struggling to find solid information and ANY help would be appreciated

YNWA27 · 13-04-2019 5:32pm

Thebigwait wrote: »

Hi all , does anyone have any ideas or experience in appealing a medical for hearing?

Is it better to e.g. Get a 2 nd opinion from a consultant that would be more accurate and possibly overturn the original finding or is there certain hearing aids that can be used, struggling to find solid information and ANY help would be appreciated

What exactly did you fail on?

Thebigwait · 13-04-2019 5:39pm

YNWA27 wrote: »

What exactly did you fail on?

Hi, it didnt say specifically apart from being outside the range, I believe its minor loss , a bit more on the left side

Thanks for asking by the way

I've been trying yo research like mad tryin to find a clear path of appeal and I always thought my hearing was good

YNWA27 · 13-04-2019 6:44pm

Thebigwait wrote: »

Hi, it didnt say specifically apart from being outside the range, I believe its minor loss , a bit more on the left side

Thanks for asking by the way

I've been trying yo research like mad tryin to find a clear path of appeal and I always thought my hearing was good

There will have been information on Appealing in the medical fail letter.

It will be down to practicalities of the job rather than just the hearing.

Hearing aids may obstruct helmets and radio ear pieces.

Basically you will need a medical professional, ideally an audiologist to identify appropriate reasonable adjustments and explain in plain simple language that you CAN do ALL the duties of a constable.

Thebigwait · 13-04-2019 7:07pm

Thanks,its says on website

When one ear is affected or when aids may overcome the difficulty, further assessment by PSNI’s medical team will be required to identify possible adjustments.

So its trying to see how to marry what they are saying here with the opinion of a medical professional to show I'm capable basically , just trying to get some clarity on what aids would be acceptable and adjustment s they have in mind if required

YNWA27 · 13-04-2019 7:15pm

Thebigwait wrote: »

Thanks,its says on website

When one ear is affected or when aids may overcome the difficulty, further assessment by PSNI’s medical team will be required to identify possible adjustments.

So its trying to see how to marry what they are saying here with the opinion of a medical professional to show I'm capable basically , just trying to get some clarity on what aids would be acceptable and adjustment s they have in mind if required

Ring 101 and ask to speak to Occupational Health?

Thebigwait · 13-04-2019 7:26pm

I'm hoping to hear back next week

PSNI Recruitment - Stage 4 - The Medical

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