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Can you sue a pub landlord for slander

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  • #242
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Booked in tonight with a solicitor

    What advice did they give you?


  • #243
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    People are saying this isn't a big deal, but I think it is. A friend of mine at university was accused of selling drugs in a Dublin pub. She was absolutely mortified and it was clear that the manager was just making trouble. I mean it's certainly defamation of character. Depending on the severity of the slander I find it hard to believe people would just move on.

    It is not slander. It is only defamation if someone other than the person referred to hears it.


  • #244
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    What advice did they give you?

    Must use the solicitor a lot to get a night visit.


  • #245
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It is not slander. It is only defamation if someone other than the person referred to hears it.

    In other words all the bar staff who must be told that a certain person is to be refused entry for (insert reason here).


  • #246
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    People are saying this isn't a big deal, but I think it is. A friend of mine at university was accused of selling drugs in a Dublin pub. She was absolutely mortified and it was clear that the manager was just making trouble. I mean it's certainly defamation of character. Depending on the severity of the slander I find it hard to believe people would just move on.

    Society needs to take the power from these publicans and make they as accountable as any shop keeping. They are basically just a glorified centra manager. People have a duty..all of us . To drive this shift and clip their wings to the level of all other shop keepers.


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  • #247
    Uncharted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Society needs to take the power from these publicans and make they as accountable as any shop keeping. They are basically just a glorified centra manager. People have a duty..all of us . To drive this shift and clip their wings to the level of all other shop keepers.

    ......mmm.........Aongus von Bismarck??


  • #248
    Gregk961
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Society needs to take the power from these publicans and make they as accountable as any shop keeping. They are basically just a glorified centra manager. People have a duty..all of us . To drive this shift and clip their wings to the level of all other shop keepers.

    I think you should take the first steps in this revolution and name the pub.


  • #249
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    Gregk961 wrote: »
    I think you should take the first steps in this revolution and name the pub.

    Was it the same pub this guy was in?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057860410&page=13


  • #250
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Was it the same pub this guy was in?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057860410&page=13

    Busted.


  • #251
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    What advice did they give you?

    No answer yet, he must still be out soliciting.


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  • #252
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Chrongen wrote:
    It IS an injustice. Admittedly not a very big one but it's still a case of the staff barring someone because they claimed he caused trouble. I would be incensed if I was mistakenly accused of being some scumbag brawler and barred for an establishment no matter how crappy the establishment was or how little the ban impacted my life.


    It isn't really but if it makes you feel better keep saying it is...; )


  • #253
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    At least it didn't take the landlord 800 years to get rid of him


  • #254
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    dxhound2005 wrote:
    What advice did they give you?

    If he was honest, ''cop on to yourself''....


  • #255
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    At least it didn't take the landlord 800 years to get rid of him

    Don’t get it. There was countries all over Europe sailing around the world taking over places so if it wasn’t the British it would most likely have been the French or the Dutch but they were all hardy just gonna sail past an undefended land mass on their doorstep full on mud farmers to go to other places. France, Belgium, Portugal, Spain , Holland, Britain, Germany were are in the colonial business. Wake up. It’s worked out much better than it could have.


  • #256
    imme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    It seems to be a way of life for people to sue these days.

    Your opening post OP sounds like there is doubt on your part.
    You say that the staff and landlord don't have proof.

    Where does proof come into it if you are innocent, why do you need to introduce proof.

    I don't understand what you're saying about your being from the UK, what bearing does that have.


  • #257
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    imme wrote: »
    It seems to be a way of life for people to sue these days.

    Your opening post OP sounds like there is doubt on your part.
    You say that the staff and landlord don't have proof.

    Where does proof come into it if you are innocent, why do you need to introduce proof.

    I don't understand what you're saying about your being from the UK, what bearing does that have.

    They made a ridiculous claim. I stated that repeatedly. Proof is to decribe anything to back up their claim. You are desperately picking at non existent holes here.


  • #258
    davo10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    They made a ridiculous claim. I stated that repeatedly. Proof is to decribe anything to back up their claim. You are desperately picking at non existent holes here.

    Solicitor running a tad late?


  • #259
    Gregk961
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    They made a ridiculous claim. I stated that repeatedly. Proof is to decribe anything to back up their claim. You are desperately picking at non existent holes here.

    The solicitor though. How did you get on?


  • #260
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    So tell the truth about the solicitor and the story. Have you made it up? If so then fair play for the commitment and living on the thread since you opened it.


  • #261
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    I am waiting to see if they will acknowledge that it wasn’t me on Friday. That’s all I want. Then we have closure. Until then I will not be speaking to the solicitor. I know he is open to 7 most evenings as I’ve used him for other day to day stuff before.
    I also have friends and family who are solicitors but generally I have my own guy for dealing with my business.


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  • #262
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    I am waiting to see if they will acknowledge that it wasn’t me on Friday. That’s all I want. Then we have closure. Until then I will not be speaking to the solicitor. I know he is open to 7 most evenings as I’ve used him for other day to day stuff before.
    I also have friends and family who are solicitors but generally I have my own guy for dealing with my business.

    So you lied when you said you had an appointment tonight?


  • #263
    cryptocurrency
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So you lied when you said you had an appointment tonight?
    I rang him and he said to drop in. It isn’t unheard of for me to do that post six as he is about 10 mins from my house.


  • #264
    Gregk961
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    Booked in tonight with a solicitor

    Ah


  • #265
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Lads your all worse for even entertaining him.
    Obviously a wind up :D
    If not, he's getting the attention he craves


  • #266
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    cryptocurrency wrote: »
    I rang him and he said to drop in. It isn’t unheard of for me to do that post six as he is about 10 mins from my house.

    Do you often solicit at night?


  • #267
    Uncharted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Joeseph Balls wrote: »
    Lads your all worse for even entertaining him.
    Obviously a wind up :D
    If not, he's getting the attention he craves

    Leave this place and never come back!!

    Can we not have fun anywhere anymore?☺


  • #268
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    So tell the truth about the solicitor and the story. Have you made it up? If so then fair play for the commitment and living on the thread since you opened it.

    It is an amazing coincidence that the exact same thing word for word happened to another poster in another thread.


  • #269
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It is an amazing coincidence that the exact same thing word for word happened to another poster in another thread.

    It is possible that harry Bailey esq was taking the proverbial in the other thread. That's the way I took it.


  • #270
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    imme wrote: »
    It seems to be a way of life for people to sue these days.

    Your opening post OP sounds like there is doubt on your part.
    You say that the staff and landlord don't have proof.

    Where does proof come into it if you are innocent, why do you need to introduce proof.

    I don't understand what you're saying about your being from the UK, what bearing does that have.

    They need proof in a defamation case. He’s saying it was prejudiced because of his ethnicity. I’m dubious on the second case.

    However he can sue, despite what people here think.


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  • #271
    clio_16v
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭clio_16v


    buster76 wrote: »
    Only 2 legal reasons you can be refused entry or service is if you are too drunk or have caused problems on the premises before. Unfortunately the onus is on you too prove innocence in both cases. You got to love legal loopholes

    So a known local drug dealer with a history of violence comes into the bar. He's sober and hasnt been in the bar before. I'm LEGALLY obliged to serve him? Nonsense.
    Even if said guy comes in, behaves impeccibly and tips me generously, you will lose local custom because you serve that 1 guy. This is why landlords wont serve said guy


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