Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Seaswimmer · 30-03-2018 09:16AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

I posted this on the motors > dashcams, but I think you guys would want to see it.
Shocking stuff you have to put up with.
I love cycling myself, but this kind of driving turns me off from cycling to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB3UVPafrp8

I commute this way every morning and evening during peak hours. When the cycle lanes went in first I was fully expecting all sorts of accidents and incidents. However I have been pleasantly surprised and I would say that incident above is rare enough. The majority of motorists seem to be able to check their wing mirrors and will wait until the cycle lane is clear. There are a number of junctions like this along the Blackrock bypass and they seem to be working, mostly.

Alanstrainor · 30-03-2018 09:52AM

I had an overall bad week myself. Lots of messing on the road. Had two weird ones happen at the same time yesterday. I was cycling home on the coast road to Portmarnock, which is a bad stretch really. I had a car beep and overtake poorly and once in front slow down to around 30km/h (roughly my pace), and for a prolonged period of time. I was extremely cautious and pulled back, and then while this was going on I had a motorcyclist come up beside me. He was practically on top of me, just so he could have a word. He had an old rant about me being in the middle of the road etc etc. Both driver and motorcyclist left without any more interaction shortly after but what the hell? Part of me wished I said to the biker for him to ride that stretch at 30km/h in the position he would've liked me to ride. He would have changed his perception quick enough.

And there I was thinking that this would be a quiet/easy week with the schools off.

axer · 30-03-2018 10:22AM

P_1 wrote: »

No he actually called out to me and pointed towards it specifically mentioning the cycle lane. Saw him there again this morning.

That's very strange as it was probably the same garda I came across Wednesday morning and he seemed only interested in taxis/cars but he was pointing and gesturing to what looked like the cycle track. I'd ask him what is he on about since he has no reason to be directing you that way.

bikedude · 04-04-2018 09:58PM

Not my near miss. Was cycling a few meters
Behind.
Bus driver squeezes a cyclist (mother with a child) in the cycle lane (Leeson Street Upper corner with Wellington Place)
She was in the cycle lane already and he decided he had enough space to overtake her.
He was barely 20cm from her handlebars at some point, and she was already at the edge of the cycle lane (I was behind her about 10m or less)
Catched up with the driver at the next lights:
Me - that was a very close pass with the mother and the child in the bike, have you seen then?
Driver - it was safe I have seen her.
Me - safe for who? For her it wasn’t you almost hit her and the kid, are you aware of the new minimum passing distance? The one meter minimum one?
He - it was saw enough, we don’t have 1 meter available here.
Reported to Dublin Bus now, likely will just get the standard reply.

ED E · 04-04-2018 11:11PM

"Please fill out our webform here and we'll pretend that we'll get back to you"

magicbastarder · 05-04-2018 08:11AM

managed to pull a muscle in my arm this morning slapping the bonnet of a car. happened right outside the office.

to be fair, the driver tracked me down to the locker room to apologise. he said 'hopefully no harm done' and i decided it was wise not to blame the pulled muscle on him.

buffalo · 05-04-2018 08:19AM

bikedude wrote: »

Not my near miss. Was cycling a few meters
Behind.
Bus driver squeezes a cyclist (mother with a child) in the cycle lane (Leeson Street Upper corner with Wellington Place)
She was in the cycle lane already and he decided he had enough space to overtake her.
He was barely 20cm from her handlebars at some point, and she was already at the edge of the cycle lane (I was behind her about 10m or less)
Catched up with the driver at the next lights:
Me - that was a very close pass with the mother and the child in the bike, have you seen then?
Driver - it was safe I have seen her.
Me - safe for who? For her it wasn’t you almost hit her and the kid, are you aware of the new minimum passing distance? The one meter minimum one?
He - it was saw enough, we don’t have 1 meter available here.
Reported to Dublin Bus now, likely will just get the standard reply.

Only that you said Dublin Bus, I would've assumed it was the Bus Eireann driver I encountered last night. Whitworth Road - totally clear of oncoming traffic, gives about half a meter as the front of the bus overtakes and then pulls back in so I've about 20-30cm clearance from the middle of the bus.

Passed him in traffic, he did the same but worse on the N2. I went around a parked car, nice straight lines to be visible and predictable. He overtook and pulled in toward the kerb before I'd finished my overtake, and (I believe this is the correct wording) I collided with the bus. Thankfully arm only, but I didn't get his reg I was so focussed on staying upright.

What Username Guidelines · 05-04-2018 08:27AM

Was driving (hurdy hurr, road tax, rabble rabble) on the north circular road the other day and about to turn right onto Oxmantown road here. Coming towards me is a cyclist followed by a Dublin Bus. Just before they draw level with me, the bus squeezed between us. I was right up against the white line, so he didnt leave his lane at all to overtake the cyclist, and it's certainly not a wide road, especially for a bus.

mr spuckler · 05-04-2018 10:15AM

just joined Eaast wall road this morning coming off Alfie Byrne road, so heading towards Dublin port. at the petrol station there was a truck reversing off the footpath into heavy traffic so needless to say there was a bit of backed up traffic and everyone in the inside lane had to move out to get past the truck.

a guy on a motorbike came up on my left hand side and started moving out without overtaking me, basically squeezing me towards the cars that were overtaking me on my right. I said something like "don't mind me", got the classic "fvck off" in response as he drove off. will check it on the camera tonight to see if it's clear.

05-04-2018 02:08PM

Not really a near miss. Had to let a roar at a post man this morning as I rode passed to tell him to get off the phone as he wobbled along one hand on the bars. This was a busy main road and has a few nasty potholes and dips you need to watch for. Few cars behind us had the sense to stay put when they saw him and waited till they could give a wide birth, heard a few beeps once I was up the road so he was likely still on the bloody phone.

ED E · 05-04-2018 03:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not really a near miss. Had to let a roar at a post man this morning as I rode passed to tell him to get off the phone as he wobbled along one hand on the bars. This was a busy main road and has a few nasty potholes and dips you need to watch for. Few cars behind us had the sense to stay put when they saw him and waited till they could give a wide birth, heard a few beeps once I was up the road so he was likely still on the bloody phone.

An Post drivers love using their phones too. Only a matter of time until they do serious damage.

FranklinMint · 05-04-2018 03:53PM

Biggest problem with an post drivers is them sorting out the mail while driving

Mrs Shuttleworth · 05-04-2018 07:39PM

Was parked stationary with engine off outside the Clontarf Baths this evening at 6.45p.m. adjacent to off road pedestrian pavement. I'm a female solo in the car. Not anywhere near cycle lane all other cyclists continue to traverse the actual cycle lane.

Cyclist I'll wager in his 60s comes over, bangs on my driver window, screaming at me "open the door, open the door, get off my lane, get off my lane." I'm terrified and freeze. A passing woman asks him what's wrong and he screams "she won't engage with me, she won't engage with me". I held up my phone and showed him 999 and sneakily managed to get a good photograph of him. When he saw the 999 he laughed and got back on his bike.

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

Felexicon · 05-04-2018 07:43PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Was parked stationary with engine off outside the Clontarf Baths this evening at 6.45p.m. adjacent to off road pedestrian pavement. I'm a female solo in the car. Not anywhere near cycle lane all other cyclists continue to traverse the actual cycle lane.

Cyclist I'll wager in his 60s comes over, bangs on my driver window, screaming at me "open the door, open the door, get off my lane, get off my lane." I'm terrified and freeze. A passing woman asks him what's wrong and he screams "she won't engage with me, she won't engage with me". I held up my phone and showed him 999 and sneakily managed to get a good photograph of him. When he saw the 999 he laughed and got back on his bike.

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

Do you really expect people on a cycling forum to engage in a reasonable discussion when you finish with this?

Mrs Shuttleworth · 05-04-2018 08:02PM

Felexicon wrote: »

Do you really expect people on a cycling forum to engage in a reasonable discussion when you finish with this?

I made a statement. His behaviour was appalling and in all likelihood I will contact Gardai. It's not a subject for "debate", but nor should I be expected to keep quiet.

Cyclists wonder why they are disliked, I'm giving you an example why.

robyntmorton · 05-04-2018 08:07PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

I made a statement. His behaviour was appalling and in all likelihood I will contact Gardai. It's not a subject for "debate", but nor should I be expected to keep quiet.

Cyclists wonder why they are disliked, I'm giving you an example why.

You’re equating an arsehole with all cyclists, which is wrong. By all means report him, as he deserves it. Get off the high horse though. If I was to hate entire groups based on single interactions with single people, I’d hate the whole world.

Pinch Flat · 05-04-2018 08:27PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

I made a statement. His behaviour was appalling and in all likelihood I will contact Gardai. It's not a subject for "debate", but nor should I be expected to keep quiet.

Cyclists wonder why they are disliked, I'm giving you an example why.

We’ll put this on the Agenda for the AGM. Us cyclists all meet secretly once a year.

buffalo · 05-04-2018 08:45PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Was parked stationary with engine off outside the Clontarf Baths this evening at 6.45p.m. adjacent to off road pedestrian pavement. I'm a female solo in the car. Not anywhere near cycle lane all other cyclists continue to traverse the actual cycle lane.

Cyclist I'll wager in his 60s comes over, bangs on my driver window, screaming at me "open the door, open the door, get off my lane, get off my lane." I'm terrified and freeze. A passing woman asks him what's wrong and he screams "she won't engage with me, she won't engage with me". I held up my phone and showed him 999 and sneakily managed to get a good photograph of him. When he saw the 999 he laughed and got back on his bike.

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

He sounds like a right prick. Why involve the rest of us though?

What Username Guidelines · 05-04-2018 08:46PM

Video wont upload but this lad got kinda close this evening as I was about to enter the spawell roundabout. I was stopped thankfully, and under the impression I had taken the lane, but Mr Prius decided otherwise. He's moving in this still, and bear in mind it's the GoPro superview, so objects are closer than they appear

TheChizler · 05-04-2018 08:49PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

It's no wonder why people truly hate over 60s.

It's no wonder why people truly hate men.

Why pick cycling as the hateful characteristic? Can we not just truly hate arseholes?

CramCycle · 05-04-2018 09:12PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Was parked stationary with engine off outside the Clontarf Baths this evening at 6.45p.m. adjacent to off road pedestrian pavement. I'm a female solo in the car. Not anywhere near cycle lane all other cyclists continue to traverse the actual cycle lane.

Cyclist I'll wager in his 60s comes over, bangs on my driver window, screaming at me "open the door, open the door, get off my lane, get off my lane." I'm terrified and freeze. A passing woman asks him what's wrong and he screams "she won't engage with me, she won't engage with me". I held up my phone and showed him 999 and sneakily managed to get a good photograph of him. When he saw the 999 he laughed and got back on his bike.

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

Its a fair point, this guy is an asshat. But early in your post you say " all other cyclists", implying this guy is in the minority in regards his behaviour. Do you use this way of pigeon holing members of a group who likely have little in common.

AndrewJRenko · 05-04-2018 09:25PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

managed to pull a muscle in my arm this morning slapping the bonnet of a car. happened right outside the office.

to be fair, the driver tracked me down to the locker room to apologise. he said 'hopefully no harm done' and i decided it was wise not to blame the pulled muscle on him.

A work colleague? Just curious...

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

Do you truly hate drivers every time you hear about a road rage incident involving a motorist?

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Cyclists wonder why they are disliked, I'm giving you an example why.

Nah, you're really not.

Fighting Tao · 05-04-2018 09:28PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

I made a statement. His behaviour was appalling and in all likelihood I will contact Gardai. It's not a subject for "debate", but nor should I be expected to keep quiet.

Cyclists wonder why they are disliked, I'm giving you an example why.

All drivers are hated because I saw one go through a red light today while pedestrians were crossing at a green man.

Am I doing this right?

magicbastarder · 05-04-2018 09:31PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

i had typed up a smart alec response to this, but thought better of it (it was very witty though, but you'll have to take my word for it, i'm very witty when i don't have to stand over the evidence).
yes, your experience as you related it was utterly uncalled for and deserves to be reported to the gardai. but as others have pointed out, this does not represent the behaviour of all cyclists, and coming onto a forum comprised of cyclists suggesting this could somehow be representative of cyclist behaviour is not going to be met with much sympathy.
no more than a cyclist here having a negative experience with a motorist driving an (insert your car brand here) gives him or her the licence to label all drivers of said car to be inconsiderate assholes.

magicbastarder · 05-04-2018 09:33PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

A work colleague? Just curious...

works in the same company. i pointed him out to a colleague in the canteen and was told he's a decent sort. he was genuinely contrite, the scenario involved a dick move by a van driver and his subsequent reaction was the one which nearly took me off the bike.

John_Rambo · 05-04-2018 09:53PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

works in the same company. i pointed him out to a colleague in the canteen and was told he's a decent sort. he was genuinely contrite, the scenario involved a dick move by a van driver and his subsequent reaction was the one which nearly took me off the bike.

Sit beside him tomorrow, dip your chip in his fried egg, swirl it around and eat it whilst maintaining eye contact.

Prison style.

magicbastarder · 05-04-2018 09:57PM

when i hear 'prison style', i think of this (NSFW):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzeu-7eRNhI

CramCycle · 05-04-2018 10:35PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

when i hear 'prison style', i think of this (NSFW):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzeu-7eRNhI

Not what I was thinking of, probably less violent and inappropriate then where my mind went.

P_1 · 06-04-2018 12:09AM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

I made a statement. His behaviour was appalling and in all likelihood I will contact Gardai. It's not a subject for "debate", but nor should I be expected to keep quiet.

Cyclists wonder why they are disliked, I'm giving you an example why.

Equating one individual with a group isn't all that logical though. For example if you had a similar incident with a chap driving a white Avensis would you make a statement stating your wonder as to why all white Avensis drivers are disliked?

Saw an odd one this morning by the 5 lamps. Cyclist left hooked by a car towing a coffee stand, cyclist understandably remonstrates with driver of said car, a Garda car coming up Guild Street then proceeds to swing the left and pull the cyclist over with full sirens and everything. Not sure if they were calling the cyclist up on holding the traffic up or what.

RacoonQueen · 06-04-2018 08:06AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Was driving (hurdy hurr, road tax, rabble rabble) on the north circular road the other day and about to turn right onto Oxmantown road here. Coming towards me is a cyclist followed by a Dublin Bus. Just before they draw level with me, the bus squeezed between us. I was right up against the white line, so he didnt leave his lane at all to overtake the cyclist, and it's certainly not a wide road, especially for a bus.

NCR is awful for cycling on. Very dangerous in both directions. Barely space for two lanes, never mind when there is a bus or cyclist as well.

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Was parked stationary with engine off outside the Clontarf Baths this evening at 6.45p.m. adjacent to off road pedestrian pavement. I'm a female solo in the car. Not anywhere near cycle lane all other cyclists continue to traverse the actual cycle lane.

Cyclist I'll wager in his 60s comes over, bangs on my driver window, screaming at me "open the door, open the door, get off my lane, get off my lane." I'm terrified and freeze. A passing woman asks him what's wrong and he screams "she won't engage with me, she won't engage with me". I held up my phone and showed him 999 and sneakily managed to get a good photograph of him. When he saw the 999 he laughed and got back on his bike.

It's no wonder people truly hate cyclists.

Where you parked in the bus lane?

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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