Belfast rape trial - all 4 found not guilty Mod Note post one

irishrebe wrote: »

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

jr86 wrote: »

The Northern Irish team were out last night...

Disgraceful ratting them out like that. Could have got fines off the IFA for unprofessionalism

What has the Irish farmer's association got to do with anything?

irishrebe wrote: »

What's really hilarious to me is how so many men on here view these things as a 'punishment'. Attending consent classes means they are all automatically considered rapists, for example. I had to attend mandatory 'racism awareness' classes when I worked in London. Did I throw my toys out of the pram and tell them to stop accusing me of being racist and stop disrespecting me? Or did I welcome the opportunity to put myself in the shoes of people of other races and consider issues I might not have thought about before as a white person? I know I'm not a racist, so it didn't bother me having to go to that course. But a consent class for a man is assuming that all men are rapists?

Did women have to also attend those same classes?  The racism one? And were other races made attend?
If both men and women had to attend, that would be fine-but too many seem to think it's men only.  Consent is down to both men and women-as in clearly stating what you're cool with.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, it's worth noting that the alleged victim said the other girls were acting "slutty" (her word, not mine) downstairs and so it could be that they were all up for a little action and that that's (partly at least) why Dara went upstairs mooching. Would certainly explain why she didn't immediately close the door when she saw the three having sex and it would also explain why Paddy asked her did she want to join in. The girl's reaction to Dara however (turning her head away etc) maybe made her feel that she wasn't up for her joining in (even if the lads were) and so she left.

Here's a pic from the party for anyone that didn't see it. Was published in a few papers during the week (alleged victim not in it obviously)





If they knew each other it would have come out by now for sure.

Possibly-but then again, one could argue they were barely acquaintances-all involved have locked their twitter accounts.

What does show a level of narcissism of those involved was Florence 'delight' at the picture taken.

https://twitter.com/MariaGallagher_/status/979036629074620416

I can only speak for myself, but even far younger than they are now, I was more responsible. And I am not the only one.  I don't think they quite understood the seriousness of the crime-more like they enjoyed the limelight.
Definitely a few hangers on there.  

I would question the sobriety of so many involved too. Many have speculated the deleted texts related to substances that were less than legal. (Even the photo posted of McIllroy hints at something--'pay attention to his nose-hint hint'.)

Yes, of course people of all races were made to attend. It wasn't some sort of punishment for being white any more than consent classes are a punishment for being a man.

Faugheen wrote: »

It's not 'penetration'.

The legislation actually covers 'An act which is done without consent which constitutes sexual assault.'

It doesn't just cover penetration...