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carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 12:11PM

MarkN wrote: »

So the big question is Carsfan did ya buy anything!!!!??

I’m afraid I succumbed in the end, but not for what I thought I would and very boring compared to yere exotic metal.

I had actually priced my 330e in 3 garages. One Dublin and three country dealers. Worst offer from Dublin guy who mentioned my country reg as pricing it down further. I thought then there wasn’t much point going to any more Dublin dealers. I think the country guys are hungrier for business anyway.
I actually always got a D reg in cars before but on the 330e was forced to register the car to my home address as apparently it had to be the same address as where I had applied for the grants from. The final offers from the other dealers were all within 500 euro of each other at the end.
At the end of the day I had to focus more on the cost to change and not get hung up on how much my car had dropped however painful it is. When they all were giving in and around the same I had to face reality of that what it’s worth.

31-03-2018 12:19PM

So you got a 520d?

bazz26 · 31-03-2018 01:17PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

I’m afraid I succumbed in the end, but not for what I thought I would and very boring compared to yere exotic metal.

I had actually priced my 330e in 3 garages. One Dublin and three country dealers. Worst offer from Dublin guy who mentioned my country reg as pricing it down further. I thought then there wasn’t much point going to any more Dublin dealers. I think the country guys are hungrier for business anyway.
I actually always got a D reg in cars before but on the 330e was forced to register the car to my home address as apparently it had to be the same address as where I had applied for the grants from. The final offers from the other dealers were all within 500 euro of each other at the end.
At the end of the day I had to focus more on the cost to change and not get hung up on how much my car had dropped however painful it is. When they all were giving in and around the same I had to face reality of that what it’s worth.

The garage I'm buying the 530d from is using my name and their garage address to stick a D reg on it. They do it all the time. I'll then change the address once it's on the system. Personally I don't care about the reg but a D reg is probably more universally accepted country wide when selling a car which will have a fairly limited market.

Also congrats on your new purchase, what did you buy in the end? G30? I never got to Colm Quinn in the end but how did you find them to deal with?

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 01:29PM

Augeo wrote: »

So you got a 520d?

Yeah, fraid so.
Have been suffering back and hip issues so I have been looking for 5 series with comfort package as has fully electric seats with lumbar support and ideally had thought would push the boat out for a 530d if it blew me away on the road.
Colm Quinn have big selection so I drove 530d, 520d se and 520d x drive.
The 530 just didn’t impress me enough over the 520 to go the extra for it. The car enthusiast in me wanted it but the extra initial outlay and running costs as well as the fact I have enough penalty points stopped me in the end. The engine sounds nicer and is undoubtedly much quicker than 520 but cruising they are the same as there is so much sound proofing in the 5 it is incredibly refined.
I have a soft spot for touring models and spotted their demo. 171D Fully loaded m sport plus with all the option packs ticked and more with 2500 miles only.
Got it for what a bit more than basic 181 520d se saloon probably would have cost on the road.

bazz26 · 31-03-2018 01:39PM

Congratulations, the 520d is still a very good car especially in G30 form. There is a still huge gulf in prices between a 530d and 520d in the G30 and it will take a good few years before that gulf shrinks. The Touring is a beauty and the lines imo are better proportioned than the saloon. What colour did you get?

31-03-2018 01:40PM

Sounds a fine bus.....I hope the seats etc do the job.....happy motoring.

mickdw · 31-03-2018 01:44PM

Interior I'm sure is miles ahead of what you had. The G30 is fab inside.

Wailin · 31-03-2018 02:20PM

Nice motor carsfan. That's the Mediterranean blue one right? He has another 520d 171 estate 10k more expensive with more miles. Must be very high specced to be that more expensive with more miles.

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 02:41PM

Yes. It’s the Mediterranean blue one I’ve gone with. Some of their prices are a bit all over the place as they had it up for sale on the forecourt for 59995 and I pointed out it was cheaper on the internet.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the other one just hasn’t been repriced as the blue one has all the packs on it.
Found them a good outfit to deal with as long as you know your stuff yourself.

digiman · 31-03-2018 03:30PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Yes. It’s the Mediterranean blue one I’ve gone with. Some of their prices are a bit all over the place as they had it up for sale on the forecourt for 59995 and I pointed out it was cheaper on the internet.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the other one just hasn’t been repriced as the blue one has all the packs on it.
Found them a good outfit to deal with as long as you know your stuff yourself.

Very nice, I’ve the same car but in Sophisto Grey, gave her a great cleaning today and she is looking like brand new again. Very happy with her so far.

Enjoy

MarkN · 31-03-2018 04:40PM

Fair play, love the colour. Very jealous

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 05:15PM

MarkN wrote: »

Fair play, love the colour. Very jealous

I doubt that from the man with the 6 series!
I’m pleased to have made the decision though I am surprised with myself for not going for the 3.0 engine. It was an extra 8/10k for that which is a fair bit but doable.
I just didn’t feel the love.
The guys in Colm Quinn reckon the three litre will lose more money over a period too so will be closer in price to the two litre in a few years.

JoeA3 · 31-03-2018 05:23PM

Well wear carsfan! Love the new 5 series.

MarkN · 31-03-2018 06:09PM

520d deffo a safer bet for residuals compared to a bigger engine one.

The 6 is lovely but it’s nice having something very fresh too. I’d say I’ll be in a G30 by the start of 2019 if I don’t do anything with the GC that I’ve been told about. 7 year old 6 series will be a good time to move it on before I’ll have to take something starting with a 1 for it.

California Dreamer · 31-03-2018 06:13PM

MarkN wrote: »

Bit of value in this depending on how you define value

50k-ish would put you into a nice 2014 F15.

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 06:27PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

Well wear carsfan! Love the new 5 series.

Cheers Joe,
You bought from them too I think if I remember correctly. They are better to deal with than a lot of dealers I have visited.

JoeA3 · 31-03-2018 06:32PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Cheers Joe,
You bought from them too I think if I remember correctly. They are better to deal with than a lot of dealers I have visited.

I did indeed, from their Galway showroom, although the car was shipped down to me from the place in Athlone. Yeah I found them very sound to deal with. No bull really, fella I dealt with was very straight. Did you find though that the salesman kept having to run figures by Colm himself? Everything seemed to require the nod from the overlord himself!

I was into them again a few weeks ago for a minor warranty recall job and again I found them good - courteous and professional.

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 08:10PM

Yes. Agree Joe found them straight but like all of these negotiations it is buyer beware. We finished 7k away in my favor from where proceedings began. God love you if you didn’t have knowledge and took the first offers.
I had sales guy and sales manager in the room with me but on two occasions the sales manager had to defer to Colm himself. I guess he ultimately pays the bills so makes the final decisions. They were keen to get a deal over the line while I was there. Being close to the end of the month may have helped too.

macjohn · 31-03-2018 08:38PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Yes. Agree Joe found them straight but like all of these negotiations it is buyer beware. We finished 7k away in my favor from where proceedings began. God love you if you didn’t have knowledge and took the first offers.
I had sales guy and sales manager in the room with me but on two occasions the sales manager had to defer to Colm himself. I guess he ultimately pays the bills so makes the final decisions. They were keen to get a deal over the line while I was there. Being close to the end of the month may have helped too.

Excellent, fair play to ya.

If ye finished €7k from their opening offer how far away was your first offer?
(genuine question - trying to improve my negotiation skills. What age was the trade in? )

Did you stretch the negotiations over a few days?

bazz26 · 31-03-2018 09:37PM

@carsfan2 - did you end up with much equity in the 330e?

31-03-2018 09:41PM

As an aside.
Great thread. Well up there with the best on motors section IMO ..... several happy endings

James Bond Junior · 31-03-2018 10:03PM

Augeo wrote: »

As an aside.
Great thread. Well up there with the best on motors section IMO ..... several happy endings

Tis the thread for all the lads who worked hard at school!!

Summer wind · 31-03-2018 11:03PM

California Dreamer wrote: »

50k-ish would put you into a nice 2014 F15.

I heard at my dealers last week that when the new X5 is released later this year that the 25d engine is being discontinued. I was surprised at this as I thought they were a good seller. There's a lot of them in my area.

California Dreamer · 31-03-2018 11:14PM

Summer wind wrote: »

I heard at my dealers last week that when the new X5 is released later this year that the 25d engine is being discontinued. I was surprised at this as I thought they were a good seller. There's a lot of them in my area.

In typical Ireland. Small engine, woefully underpowered, 2WD drive and a spec level that only Stevie Wonder could like. Most that were sold came in SE spec with 18" wheels, chrome trim and the likes.

Wailin · 31-03-2018 11:27PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

I had sales guy and sales manager in the room with me but on two occasions the sales manager had to defer to Colm himself.

Exact same scenario for me when I bought the 535d back in November. Sales manager kept popping out to run things by Colm and he came in himself for a quick chat but not about negotiations.

First port of call was sales guy who runs things by sales manager who in turn runs it by Mr. Quinn himself! Never came across that before in a dealership but shows he likes to keep his finger on the pulse.

Would go back to them again, none of that smarmy behaviour you can get from some dealerships, just straight talk.

ba_barabus · 31-03-2018 11:38PM

Wailin wrote: »

Exact same scenario for me when I bought the 535d back in November. Sales manager kept popping out to run things by Colm and he came in himself for a quick chat but not about negotiations.

First port of call was sales guy who runs things by sales manager who in turn runs it by Mr. Quinn himself! Never came across that before in a dealership but shows he likes to keep his finger on the pulse.

Would go back to them again, none of that smarmy behaviour you can get from some dealerships, just straight talk.

I can see you never to buy a car from Al Hayes in Portumna

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 11:48PM

macjohn wrote: »

Excellent, fair play to ya.

If ye finished €7k from their opening offer how far away was your first offer?
(genuine question - trying to improve my negotiation skills. What age was the trade in? )

Did you stretch the negotiations over a few days?

I am no great negotiator. I just know a bit about the cars and their values. I may stretch the truth in what the offers from competitors are but find just being good natured and friendly while not letting yourself get bamboozled works. Also always remember you are more important to them than they are to you so you can always just say no thanks and goodbye.
Negotiations were all over in three quarters of an hour.

carsfan2 · 31-03-2018 11:53PM

bazz26 wrote: »

@carsfan2 - did you end up with much equity in the 330e?

3k negative bazz. This was as good as I could get.
PCP was not good. If sterling had not lost so much value in the last year I think there would have been some or would have broke even.
Obviously the value of the car stays the same irrespective of how you pay for it so if had bought for cash would have lost the same value. Just have to pay it and move on.

JoeA3 · 31-03-2018 11:59PM

ba_barabus wrote: »

I can see you never to buy a car from Al Hayes in Portumna

I’m familiar with Hayes. While he and Quinn share a few old school ideas, I think that’s where the comparison ends. I personally wouldn’t buy a newspaper off Al Hayes.

carsfan2 · 01-04-2018 12:10AM

Wailin wrote: »

Exact same scenario for me when I bought the 535d back in November. Sales manager kept popping out to run things by Colm and he came in himself for a quick chat but not about negotiations.

First port of call was sales guy who runs things by sales manager who in turn runs it by Mr. Quinn himself! Never came across that before in a dealership but shows he likes to keep his finger on the pulse.

Would go back to them again, none of that smarmy behaviour you can get from some dealerships, just straight talk.

Have to agree with lack of bull**** but like any dealer you need to have your homework done to not get taken advantage of.

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