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Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    This is quite harrowing:

    https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/evan-rachel-wood-details-abuse-in-harrowing-testimony-to-congress-36655534.html

    she's obviously talking about marilyn manson raping and torturing her WTF

    I highly, highly doubt that Manson is a rapist-kinky, maybe, but won't do something without implied consent.
    He sacked Twiggy Ramirez as soon as the rape accusations emerged.

    He ended his engagement to Rose McGowan, not her ending it with him. He obviously knew she had issues that he didn't want to be associated with.

    There is another musician she dated, however-and he's also an actor. Shane West, used to be in ER. And Nikita.
    Could be him also. Could be a whole load of people.

    Wood was held responsible tho for Von Teese and Manson's marriage ending. Dita was pretty telling in how she responded to questions about Wood. https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a71/dita-von-teese-0507/
    As well as drink and drugs, other reports about the breakup have mentioned Lindsay Lohan, but she dismisses that as "sensationalism. I don't know, but I don't think that's part of our story." The name that crops up most in the press, however, is that of Evan Rachel Wood, the 19-year-old actress and star of Thirteen, whom Manson, 38, has cast in his upcoming movie, Phantasmagoria. "No comment" is all Von Teese will say, but I can't help noticing that her hands — beautifully manicured, of course, and painted the same red as her lips — are shaking.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is the third time posting this, not sure if the site is having issues of the post is being deleted and no one has told me why.

    Based on interviews Manson has given it's most likely him: https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.glamour.com/story/why-is-nobody-talking-about-marilyn-mansons-fantasy-of-killing-evan-rachel-wood/amp

    He details some extreme emotional abuse including cutting himself and sending images of his bloody arms and face to her after she didn't answer her phone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Manson was planning to direct Wood in a film called Phantasmogoria. Based on Lewis Carroll and his, 'proclivities'. The film would pretty much have been torture porn, but with Wood and Lily Cole being tortured.
    Trailer was made-you can find it on youtube. It's nsfw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    And now the creator of Ren and Stimpy, John Kricfalusi, is accused of preying on underage girls. Apparently, it was another open secret. Even back on his R & S days.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse?bftwnews&utm_term=.vdVzmxLZQg#.qqE7gyJ185


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Not a good week for Nickelodeon. Would be surprised if him and Schneider were the only two.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Not a good week for Nickelodeon. Would be surprised if him and Schneider were the only two.
    Not too much of a shock I suppose. Child molesters are known for working in "target rich environments" where they can groom their victims, a TV channel aimed at children with children and their parents desperate to get into the limelight would be a major draw for these deviants.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 300 ✭✭garbo speaks


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not too much of a shock I suppose. Child molesters are known for working in "target rich environments" where they can groom their victims, a TV channel aimed at children with children and their parents desperate to get into the limelight would be a major draw for these deviants.

    Plus have you seen Dan Schneider?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Plus have you seen Dan Schneider?
    Th brazen feet related Twitter shenanigans is also astonishing. The loon deserves the lifetime movie treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Not a good week for Nickelodeon. Would be surprised if him and Schneider were the only two.

    Well, there was Chris Savino-the creator of Loud House. He was fired for sexual harassment and threats going back over 15 years ago.

    Cartoon Network fired Skyler Page, the creator of the show Clarence, after he tried to sexually assault a co-worker, after consuming alcohol and drugs. (He also has bipolar disorder, and all that contributed to his outburst).

    Nickelodeon has a history of hiring registered sex offenders-Ezell Channel had already served time for molesting a young boy, when he was hired as a Production Assistant at Nickelodeon. He then proceeded to molest a young actor. Jason Michael Handy tried to exploit two teen actresses in 2012. He was hired by Nick, and was also a registered sex offender. And of course there was Brian Peck.

    Funny how little attention the Allison Mack sex cult is getting, outside of places like the Daily Mail. (Mack played Chloe in Smallville)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5561103/Smallvilles-Kristen-Kreuk-denies-sex-cult-Allison-Mack.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    While it was reported about James Toback a week or two ago-the story went silent very quickly. Which is shocking, because now over 200-yes two hundred- women have come forward to allege sexual harassment on his part. Among them Selma Blair and Rachel McAdams.
    It's shocking how little attention he has gotten-George Bush Snr has received more coverage.

    Los Angeles DA rejects five of the cases against Toback:
    Setback for #MeToo as prosecutors rule James Toback sex accusations too old

    In the days and weeks after the Harvey Weinstein scandal broke last year, one of the highest-profile scalps it claimed was that of director James Toback.

    Toback's "bad" reputation with women saw almost 40 accusations surface in an investigation by The Los Angeles Times.

    The reason is one of legal complication rather than exoneration: the allegations fall outside the statute of limitations, the legal line in the sand which effectively places a cap on the time period in which a charge can be made after an offence is alleged to have occurred.

    Given the media attention that was placed on the Toback accusations in the wake of the Weinstein scandal, the decision is not just bruising to the #MeToo movement, but also a dramatic illustration of the difficulty an accuser has of seeing his or her day in court.

    The three cases investigated by the Beverly Hills Police Department related to incidents in which Toback was alleged to rubbed up against women and masturbated.

    In two of the three cases - one incident at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 1993 and a second at a private screening in 2008 - the District Attorney's office found that Toback may have committed sexual battery but that the one-year statute of limitation had expired.

    In the third case, which related to a separate incident in 2008, the woman involved would not agree to be interviewed by detectives.

    The two cases investigated by the Los Angeles Police Department related to incidents in 1978 and 1980 where Toback was alleged to have exposed himself or groped the victim.

    In both of those cases the statute of limitation had also expired, the District Attorney's office confirmed.

    Though the Harvey Weinstein case commanded the lion's share of the headlines as a wave of accusations of sexual harassment and sexual assault swept Hollywood last year, Toback's case was notable for the volume of his accusers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Los Angeles DA rejects five of the cases against Toback:

    The unfortunate statute of limitations. Unfortunate, because many rape victims only find the strength to come forward years after the incident took place.

    Warner Bros have cut ties with Brett Ratner, a deal previously worth 450 million. That's gonna hurt.

    I did not know about the allegations against Neil Degrasse Tyson-which emerged back in 2017, but have since remerged due to his continuing tweets.

    Claims of raping a former pupil.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accused-of-rape/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Well R Kelly's team has lost his lawyer and other members of his team-allegations against him are getting far more attention.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/1863ed90-cb3d-42af-ab07-e922caac6452?ns_campaign=bbc-three&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=bbcthree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Ah but sure R. Kelly is horrible scumbag, we've known this for ages, nothing he would do at this point would surpr---
    Fresh allegations have also arisen against the singer, claiming he “knowingly and intentionally infected” a 19-year-old woman with an STD.
    .............. :eek:
    I highlighted one particular allegation, from his former girlfriend Kitti Jones: she claimed R Kelly groomed a girl from the age of 14. Kitti had confirmed for the first time that she was part of R Kelly’s “sex dungeon” where she was forced to have sex with him and other people on “more than 10” occasions.

    She believes some of the girls in the 'sex dungeon' were underage, and talked about an encounter with R Kelly where he told her that he had been “training” one of the girls from the age of 14 to be one of his “pets”. Kelly has previously denied these claims, calling them false and defamatory.

    Kitti Jones said, “I saw that this girl was dressed like me, that she was saying the things I’d say, and her mannerisms were like mine. That’s when it clicked in my head that he had been grooming me to become one of his pets, too. He calls them his pets.”
    .......................... What the actual fcuk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Ah but sure R. Kelly is horrible scumbag, we've known this for ages, nothing he would do at this point would surpr---

    .............. :eek:


    .......................... What the actual fcuk?

    When he was 27 or so,he moved in with 15 yr old Aaliyah-nobody blinked.

    Sadly, she's now deceased, but I can't imagine she wasn't exploited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    He's another one of these pricks who must have a lot of dirt on people. After Aaliyah and he split up and his illegal marriage to a 15 year old was annulled, she was the one who had difficulty with her career because only a handful of people wanted to be associated with her.

    WTF like.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah the R Kelly thing is completely mad. It's so widely known it can't even be called an "open secret".


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote:
    He's another one of these pricks who must have a lot of dirt on people. After Aaliyah and he split up and his illegal marriage to a 15 year old was annulled, she was the one who had difficulty with her career because only a handful of people wanted to be associated with her.

    Jimmy Kimmel and other chat show hosts denouncing Spacey, Trump and Weinstein before stating "tonight's musical guest R Kelly" and getting giddy when they shake his hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    seamus wrote: »
    He's another one of these pricks who must have a lot of dirt on people. After Aaliyah and he split up and his illegal marriage to a 15 year old was annulled, she was the one who had difficulty with her career because only a handful of people wanted to be associated with her.

    WTF like.

    She was sort of making a comeback, before her death at 22. Had transitioned into making successful films like Romeo must Die and unsuccessful ones like...brrr, Queen of the Damned.

    I think DMX was one of the few who would work with her, and they collaborated on one or two projects before her passing.

    I think there was a creepy 'Lolita' element all around her, like she was a 'temptress' or some crap.

    Hard to believe, if she was alive, she'd be 40 next year.
    Jimmy Kimmel and other chat show hosts denouncing Spacey, Trump and Weinstein before stating "tonight's musical guest R Kelly" and getting giddy when they shake his hand.

    An old clip from 'The man show' was uploaded around the time of Kimmel's silence-showing him being a pervert. Kimmel is like too many people, pretends to be 'woke' is still a douche.
    It's why I suspect any one who claims be 'woke' is really the lowest of the low. You only have to look at the likes of Joss Whedon to see that. (Oh how he loves to go on tirades on twitter about Trump, when he's no better).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,094 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »


    Pity the academy's only 41 years late in dealing with Polanski rolleyes.png

    Let's not forget the Oscar they gave him in 2003 rolleyes.png

    I do wonder if those 100 luvvies who signed the petition to get him released after his 2009 arrest in Switzerland, will start a new one to get him back in rolleyes.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Venom wrote: »
    Pity the academy's only 41 years late in dealing with Polanski rolleyes.png

    Let's not forget the Oscar they gave him in 2003 rolleyes.png

    I do wonder if those 100 luvvies who signed the petition to get him released after his 2009 arrest in Switzerland, will start a new one to get him back in rolleyes.png

    41 years condoning his s***t and another 41 of people defending him, including Whoopi Goldberg's it's not 'rape rape' comment.
    You can find tons of people who'll still defend him. I imagine Natalie Portman will be signing another petition to get him back.

    Or will Scarlett Johanssen be coming out to defend Woody Allen again, after denouncing Franco?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I saw this article the other day and thought I'd post it here. I had no idea Brad renfro was so troubled even as a young child, using heroin at 12. I wonder if the huge scandal of child abuse in Hollywood is ever going to break into the mainstream , this seems to hint at it at least. The likes of Singer and his associates should be locked up forever for what they've done to child actors.


    https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/how-hollywood-failed-brad-renfro?utm_term=.ocR908oXDz#.fuaWzK18EG


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So true about the hypocrisy of the Hollywood Academy and their indulgence of Polanski.

    Then again, this is the same Hollywood establishment culture that has made hundreds of millions of dollars spewing out decades of super racist westerns where the victims of white colonialists in real life were portrayed as dangerous savages right up until the 1990s. And then there are all those glorifications of US war crimes in southeast Asia in the form of the Vietnam war movie-making industry. How about a movie on Agent Orange/Napalm/genetic deformities in generations of children.... Just "gung-ho "Uncle Sam is saving the world" non-stop. No apologies - ever.

    For all its contrived self-righteousness, few industries in the United States have less moral authority than Hollywood.


  • Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    So true about the hypocrisy of the Hollywood Academy and their indulgence of Polanski.

    Then again, this is the same Hollywood establishment culture that has made hundreds of millions of dollars spewing out decades of super racist westerns where the victims of white colonialists in real life were portrayed as dangerous savages right up until the 1990s. And then there are all those glorifications of US war crimes in southeast Asia in the form of the Vietnam war movie-making industry. How about a movie on Agent Orange/Napalm/genetic deformities in generations of children.... Just "gung-ho "Uncle Sam is saving the world" non-stop. No apologies - ever.

    For all its contrived self-righteousness, few industries in the United States have less moral authority than Hollywood.

    Wat?

    There is nothing wrong with old westerns, The Searchers is a classic for example. And I don't think Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter etc are glorifying Vietnam. If you hate America that much that you can't even enjoy a movie then you issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    Wat?

    There is nothing wrong with old westerns, The Searchers is a classic for example. And I don't think Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter etc are glorifying Vietnam. If you hate America that much that you can't even enjoy a movie then you issues.

    The Vietnam films were generally anti war in fact. While I adore many westerns. They very much so are guilty of racism, non white people were invariably portrayed as savages etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I saw this article the other day and thought I'd post it here. I had no idea Brad renfro was so troubled even as a young child, using heroin at 12. I wonder if the huge scandal of child abuse in Hollywood is ever going to break into the mainstream , this seems to hint at it at least. The likes of Singer and his associates should be locked up forever for what they've done to child actors.


    https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/how-hollywood-failed-brad-renfro?utm_term=.ocR908oXDz#.fuaWzK18EG

    The article about how he was the only 'kid' at a party full of adults reeks of many allegations against Kevin Spacey and singer-and much of 'An Open Secret'. There was also accusations that Renfro was abused too-I think it was alleged that Singer had been the one who abused him. But it could also have been one of those unaccredited 'teachers'-and knowing Singer, it may very well be both.
    Wat?

    There is nothing wrong with old westerns, The Searchers is a classic for example. And I don't think Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter etc are glorifying Vietnam. If you hate America that much that you can't even enjoy a movie then you issues.

    The Deer Hunter is sort of a split personality film, tbh. At one point it questions the American position in Vietnam, and then portrays the Vietnamese as animal-like and sadistic. The russian roulette scene is one such example.
    The final scene has been cited as a very strange 'jingoistic' moment in the film by some, more sarcasm according to others. I like that film, even if it is tonally strange at times.

    Apocalypse Now...it actually gets shown to miltary folks before they go off to combat. It's led to people questioning if it truly is critical of war, or, as one person I know called it, 'War porn'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    See Family Guy took a little swipe at Matt Damon with the following, is that just because of his comments a few months back or are they suggesting something is to come out maybe? MacFarlane has had a pop at a few of those accused long before any revelations of course and so certainly wouldn't be a first if they were.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭brainfreeze


    Jimmy Kimmel and other chat show hosts denouncing Spacey, Trump and Weinstein before stating "tonight's musical guest R Kelly" and getting giddy when they shake his hand.

    R Kelly has not been on Jimmy Fallen since 2016. He certainly has never been on any chat show as a musical guest after the host denounced Spacey, Trump and Weinstein. In fact he hasn't even been on any chat shows since a year before the current scandal.

    This scenario literally never happened. :confused:


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    R Kelly has not been on Jimmy Fallen since 2016. He certainly has never been on any chat show as a musical guest after the host denounced Spacey, Trump and Weinstein. In fact he hasn't even been on any chat shows since a year before the current scandal.

    This scenario literally never happened. :confused:

    Great to know that we have R Kelly fans like yourself keeping track of him.


    Maybe the clips I saw were out of context but does it really matter when you had Kimmell, Fallon and others who were more than happy to have R. Kelly on their show over the past decade as multiple stories about him were reported. They were widely reported and discussed new stories chronicling the allegations against him, funny how none of them was criticising him but were more than happy to jump on the current bandwagon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭brainfreeze


    Great to know that we have R Kelly fans like yourself keeping track of him.


    Maybe the clips I saw were out of context but does it really matter when you had Kimmell, Fallon and others who were more than happy to have R. Kelly on their show over the past decade as multiple stories about him were reported. They were widely reported and discussed new stories chronicling the allegations against him, funny how none of them was criticising him but were more than happy to jump on the current bandwagon.

    What are you on?

    You made up a story that seemed unbelievable due to the very public hypocritical nature of it, and when I did a quick google to verify this unbelievable story, turns out it's unbelievable as it's not true. If Jimmy Kimmel publicly berated Spacey, Trump and Weinstein and then on the exact same show invited R Kelly, with his known history, to be his musical guest right after, shaking his hand, fawning, it would be on international news. Surely such a claim would warrant a Google search to validate it considering nobody has ever heard of this? Yes?

    And because you have been caught telling porkies, you default to calling me an R Kelly fan for verifying that your scenario never happened? :pac:

    You don't have to invent stories to point out Hollywood hypocrisy, there is tons of legit examples. It's also makes you look a bit simple if when caught out on telling such porkies, to try and involve the user as complicit in that hypocrisy, as if the only person to question this would be an R Kelly fan.


    Click and be amazed on how I got this information: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005084/#self

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=R+Kelly+imdb+self


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