Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

km79 · 26-03-2018 03:56PM

ProudDUB wrote: »

He's such a lazy slacker since he became a mod. :P

http://mayogaablog.com/?p=22909

Who is that fine gentleman 45 minutes in.
I felt he was extremely well spoken and provided incisive analysis

yop · 26-03-2018 03:59PM

charlie14 wrote: »

Was it not a free awarded to Donegal for a foul on Murphy rather than a sideline ball ?

It was for when Murphys head realised it was bigger than his arse and made him fall over

The physio and support team dealt with him in an efficient and effective manner

charlie14 · 26-03-2018 04:05PM

yop wrote: »

It was for when Murphys head realised it was bigger than his arse and made him fall over
The physio and support team dealt with him in an efficient and effective manner

My point was that contrary to what some here thought, I was pretty sure it was a free kick awarded to Donegal rather than a line ball.

km79 · 26-03-2018 04:07PM

charlie14 wrote: »

My point was that contrary to what some here thought, I was pretty sure it was a free kick awarded to Donegal rather than a line ball.

It happened right in front of me.
A free was awarded

yop · 26-03-2018 04:33PM

charlie14 wrote: »

My point was that contrary to what some here thought, I was pretty sure it was a free kick awarded to Donegal rather than a line ball.

Definitely a free.

MaroonAndGreen · 26-03-2018 05:35PM

Nice to see it looks like Higgins will be back soon, I was slightly concerned about him playing the hurling I must say!

NabyLadistheman · 26-03-2018 07:23PM

flasher0030 wrote: »

I have to say I haven't seen anything in Conor Loftus to suggest that he is going to make the cutting edge at senior intercounty level. From what I can see, he is very one dimensional - it is easy to dispossess him of the ball, and he doesn't have proper pace or strength needed at that level. I think when he came on as sub last year, and scored that goal and set up couple of scores, that it has raised our hopes that he is going to be the marquee forward we crave. And we don't want to let go of that fantasy. I'd sooner put faith in Adam Gallagher. With a bit more coaching, he has a bit of intensity, strength and more pace.

Suarezistheman wrote: »

That's nonsense about Loftus. Not every player is going to be a marquee forward that we all crave. Look at the impact he made on big games last year? Kept us in it versus Derry, sublime ball for Andys goal v Kerry. The guy is extremely talented & hopefully he can fulfil his potential.

Thoughts now?

Stoner · 26-03-2018 08:09PM

charlie14 wrote:

My point was that contrary to what some here thought, I was pretty sure it was a free kick awarded to Donegal rather than a line ball.

On the line ball, did someone interfere with the Mayo lad trying to pick the ball up anyway

Bunny Colvin · 26-03-2018 08:10PM

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Thoughts now?

He had a very good game yesterday but it's a little early to be saying 'I was right, you were wrong. More of the same from him hopefully.

km79 · 26-03-2018 08:14PM

Stoner wrote: »

On the line ball, did someone interfere with the Mayo lad trying to pick the ball up anyway

Have to watch it back but I thought so !
8 week ban........

charlie14 · 26-03-2018 08:36PM

Stoner wrote: »

On the line ball, did someone interfere with the Mayo lad trying to pick the ball up anyway

It looked more like a Donegal player or two looking to get the ball back realising they had a free kick.

MaroonAndGreen · 27-03-2018 01:59PM

Surprise surprise! Kevin McLoughlin wins GAA Player of the Week!

flasher0030 · 27-03-2018 04:20PM

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Thoughts now?

I made my thoughts clear couple of pages back. But for the slowly inclined, here is a copy of the post. You might keep up;

I put up a negative post about Conor loftus last week. Got that one wrong. Could see him growing in confidence as game went on. Great free taking too. With 10 mins to go, he showed great acceleration and skill to get past 2 Donegal lads. But fluffed the shot in the end. But reminded me of same style that Shane Walsh from Galway has.

km79 · 27-03-2018 04:48PM

I’ve watched it back a few times now and I’m almost certain that a defender got a block on McBreartys final shot . That block kept us in div 1 as much as the McLoughlin point !
I think it might be Hall ? He burst a gut to Get back as well

seligehgit · 27-03-2018 06:11PM

km79 wrote: »

I’ve watched it back a few times now and I’m almost certain that a defender got a block on McBreartys final shot . That block kept us in div 1 as much as the McLoughlin point !
I think it might be Hall ? He burst a gut to Get back as well

Watched it back again just now,don't think there was any block but Hall's pressure was invaluable in making life very difficult for McBrearty.

It was discussed on the podcast the recurring theme that is the underutilisation of the bench.

There definitely appears to be a lack of trust by the management in same.First substitution on 64 minutes,Alan Freeman introduced on 69 minutes.

TBH I thought Michael Hall and Fergal Boland contributed handsomely in terms of bringing fresh legs.

Stephen Coen really stepped up when the game appeared to be going away from us in the later stages of the contest.

km79 · 27-03-2018 06:17PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Watched it back again just now,don't think there was any block but Hall's pressure was invaluable in making life very difficult for McBrearty.

It was discussed on the podcast the recurring theme that is the underutilisation of the bench.

There definitely appears to be a lack of trust by the management in same.First substitution on 64 minutes,Alan Freeman introduced on 69 minutes.

TBH I thought Michael Hall and Fergal Boland contributed handsomely in terms of bringing fresh legs.

Stephen Coen really stepped up when the game appeared to be going away from us in the later stages of the contest.

Lack of subs was bizarre !
Coen has had a good campaign
Boland has bulked up a bit and is the type of player the team needs. Reminds me of Dillon . Probably still not ready for a start though. Hopefully he seizes whatever chance he gets as we badly need another forward option .

The Murphy dive was every bit as blatant as it looked at the time . Ridiculous decision . The Donegal selector who encroached as Boyle was going for the ball then was probably lucky the whistle was gone

Martina1991 · 27-03-2018 06:25PM

seligehgit wrote:

TBH I thought Michael Hall and Fergal Boland contributed handsomely in terms of bringing fresh legs.

seligehgit wrote:

Stephen Coen really stepped up when the game appeared to be going away from us in the later stages of the contest.

People are always saying " if this group of players doesn't win an All Ireland soon they never will", but with the likes of Coen, Hall, Boland, O Donoghue, DOC coming through i think we'll be alright.

seligehgit · 27-03-2018 07:56PM

Matthew Ruane got MOTM at the weekend,scored a couple of points.Jason Gibbons togged out in the same contest.He evidently is losing ground in his quest to secure a place in the championship 26.

Hopefully Ruane one of our most promising young midfielders can push on from the Mayo development panel as midfield is an area where we're in dire need of new blood to start coming through.

Cian Hanley who has been training with the Mayo panel played the first half for Ballagh v Ballinrobe.Largely unremarkable debut by all accounts as was to be expected.

charlie14 · 27-03-2018 07:58PM

km79 wrote: »

Lack of subs was bizarre !
Coen has had a good campaign
Boland has bulked up a bit and is the type of player the team needs. Reminds me of Dillon . Probably still not ready for a start though. Hopefully he seizes whatever chance he gets as we badly need another forward option .

The Murphy dive was every bit as blatant as it looked at the time . Ridiculous decision . The Donegal selector who encroached as Boyle was going for the ball then was probably lucky the whistle was gone

Boyle himself was lucky, especially after last week against Tyrone. Had that leap into Donegal`s Gallagher been later in the game I doubt he would have got away with just a yellow card.

km79 · 27-03-2018 08:00PM

charlie14 wrote: »

Boyle himself was lucky, especially after last week against Tyrone. Had that leap into Donegal`s Gallagher been later in the game I doubt he would have got away with just a yellow card.

I agree
It was needless and reckless imo

He was fairly fired up it must be said !

Bunny Colvin · 27-03-2018 08:01PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Watched it back again just now,don't think there was any block but Hall's pressure was invaluable in making life very difficult for McBrearty.

It was discussed on the podcast the recurring theme that is the underutilisation of the bench.

There definitely appears to be a lack of trust by the management in same.First substitution on 64 minutes,Alan Freeman introduced on 69 minutes.

TBH I thought Michael Hall and Fergal Boland contributed handsomely in terms of bringing fresh legs.

Stephen Coen really stepped up when the game appeared to be going away from us in the later stages of the contest.

Yep, couldn't believe Rochford didn't run the bench earlier. The game was crying out for fresh legs to press them as we were chasing the game somewhat and were looking tired.
Things ended up okay in the end but if we had lost that game, their would have been some criticism and rightly so.

Bunny Colvin · 27-03-2018 08:05PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

People are always saying " if this group of players doesn't win an All Ireland soon they never will", but with the likes of Coen, Hall, Boland, O Donoghue, DOC coming through i think we'll be alright.

Right now the players you mentioned are fine but there's no way they're anywhere near the level of the likes of AOS, Keegan, Boyler, Higgins and Andy. It might be a long time before we replace those lads.

muddle84 · 27-03-2018 11:12PM

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Right now the players you mentioned are fine but there's no way they're anywhere near the level of the likes of AOS, Keegan, Boyler, Higgins and Andy. It might be a long time before we replace those lads.

You could include David Clarke in that list too I think?
Those players are at a different level to what's coming through for sure. But didn't we think the same when Willie Joe was coming to the end of the road, Liam McHale, Ciaran McDonald? I'm not convinced we're going away any time soon, in the great words of John Mullane, I loves me county! The more I think about it the more I believe it. And who's to say the younger players won't get to the level of the top names mentioned there, I think they have potential to! I'm no expert though, just my opinion.

glack · 27-03-2018 11:21PM

km79 wrote: »

I’ve watched it back a few times now and I’m almost certain that a defender got a block on McBreartys final shot . That block kept us in div 1 as much as the McLoughlin point !
I think it might be Hall ? He burst a gut to Get back as well

It is Hall. I think he did too. You can’t really see anything but you can hear it I think.

seligehgit · 28-03-2018 08:56AM

I might be mistaken but I thought I heard it mentioned on Morning Ireland that we'd been awarded the points from the Kerry game as they'd an unregistered player?

Matters not a hot in a contest we were very much second best in.Anybody else hear it?

Kalyke · 28-03-2018 09:02AM

Kerry Ladies

jr86 · 28-03-2018 09:16AM

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Right now the players you mentioned are fine but there's no way they're anywhere near the level of the likes of AOS, Keegan, Boyler, Higgins and Andy. It might be a long time before we replace those lads.

Have to agree with this.

It's inevitable there'll be a comedown when most of this generation hang up their boots. I mean you could even say there's been a decline over the past two seasons in terms of January - July football, but given it's lead to our best ever final performances I wouldn't complain too much

On the subs issue, I would just love to know what on earth the logic was in bringing on Freeman so late? Lets be honest O'Donoghue and McLoughlin dug us out of this one - the management have plenty of questions to answer for the league.

Rochford has tightened up our defence immensely and got his match-ups spot on in Croke Park last year so I am still giving him the benefit whenever I can for now

PARlance · 28-03-2018 10:00AM

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Yep, couldn't believe Rochford didn't run the bench earlier. The game was crying out for fresh legs to press them as we were chasing the game somewhat and were looking tired.
Things ended up okay in the end but if we had lost that game, their would have been some criticism and rightly so.

I don't want to be the person who is always sticking up for Rochford but it seems I'm becoming that poster.

I think it's very easy to throw something like "bring on fresh legs" but I would always ask "for who?" or "what exact changes".

Would he come under criticism for taking any of Doc, Andy, Loftus, McLoughs, Aidan or DOC off with 20 mins to go... he has taken off these guys before and he has come under criticism (Andy a few times, vs Galway last year sticks out).

In terms of the bench the last day, Boland on for DOC as an early sub MAYBE but I would have doubts that I would be improving the team with 20-25 mins to go with that one.

We were missing a lot of players, Barry Moran, Freeman and Hall (the other subs used) aren't stand outs that you'll be confident of saving Div 1 status imo.

If / when we have Higgins, Cillian, Lee etc to add to the match day squad then yes I'd be harder on him. The reality for me is, there wasn't a whole pile of options screaming from the bench.

glack · 28-03-2018 10:04AM

PARlance wrote: »

I don't want to be the person who is always sticking up for Rochford but it seems I'm becoming that poster.

I think it's very easy to throw something like "bring on fresh legs" but I would always ask "for who?" or "what exact changes".

Would he come under criticism for taking any of Doc, Andy, Loftus, McLoughs, Aidan or DOC off with 20 mins to go... he has taken off these guys before and he has come under criticism (Andy a few times, vs Galway last year sticks out).

In terms of the bench the last day, Boland on for DOC as an early sub MAYBE but I would have doubts that I would be improving the team with 20-25 mins to go with that one.

We were missing a lot of players, Barry Moran, Freeman and Hall (the other subs used) aren't stand outs that you'll be confident of saving Div 1 status imo.

If / when we have Higgins, Cillian, Lee etc to add to the match day squad then yes I'd be harder on him. The reality for me is, there wasn't a whole pile of options screaming from the bench.

Drake was clearly struggling with an injury in the second half. I saw him get a teammate to chase his man down because he couldn’t. I watched him when the play was well away from him too and he was walking gingerly on his ankle. No way he should have stayed on so long.

PARlance · 28-03-2018 10:07AM

glack wrote: »

Drake was clearly struggling with an injury in the second half. I saw him get a teammate to chase his man down because he couldn’t. I watched him when the play was well away from him too and he was walking gingerly on his ankle. No way he should have stayed on so long.

I was going to put in an edit to above. Yes, Drake a very easy sub to make. Injured or not imo.

I was just focusing in on forward switches above.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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