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Extreme cold weather from Feb 25th on, and now St. Patrick's Day on...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,744 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Goo drying weather now until some rain on Thursday, bitterly cold tomorrow night though with a hard frost and no real sign of a mild spell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,660 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Got to try out the brush on the tractor loader today a little bit on the road.
    Works well when there's a bit of a thaw coming from the ground up. Just need to angle it slightly to one side, in an ideal world.

    Science says though for the next 5 or 6 winters I'll have plenty of opportunities to brush snow again according to this current Sun cycle.
    Might invest in a snow plough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Might invest in a snow plough

    Mr.Plough.:D

    It's interesting though if you look at the solar cycles. The last low point was in 2008 and a cycle lasts 11 years (well that's really a half cycle as the polarity shifts in the sun every 11, so it's really 22 years for it to go back to exactly the same pole and stage as before) but every 11 years the output dips. Anyway 2008 was the last dip and then winters 09 and 10 happened after that.
    So going on the 11 year cycle the minimum won't be till 2019 and judging on before there can be a lag of a year and two to our coldest winter weather. So maybe as this cycle looks even more timid than all other cycles for the past hundred years and should dip below 08 we could be in for some interesting weather.
    http://legacy-www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/f10.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    Every lad I met today telling me that they heard from someone else that going to be back to the cold weather again for Easter. Just wondering if anyone could fill us in on what the experts are actually saying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Every lad I met today telling me that they heard from someone else that going to be back to the cold weather again for Easter. Just wondering if anyone could fill us in on what the experts are actually saying?

    They can deck right off! Snow still on the ground here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Every lad I met today telling me that they heard from someone else that going to be back to the cold weather again for Easter. Just wondering if anyone could fill us in on what the experts are actually saying?

    All the X perts look at the charts that are available to you and me.

    There's various charts produced by different weather agencies. The Ecm by the Europeans and European Union.
    The Gfs (global forecast service) by the U.S. and then there's various other model charts produced by other agencies.

    A good start is the weather outlook website.
    https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/

    It lists a good few different models.
    But when the models start showing the same thing it's nearly fairly certain that will be the outcome.
    Go into the menu on the site and click on ... (but turned upwards;) ) and then models. Then click on that weather model name above the chart (on the mobile site) to change model. Then you can change the chart from the 500 hpa to the 850 hpa chart by clicking on (for example the gfs)
    + N America and this will bring up more options. Then select 850 hpa and this will show the air temperatures closer to the ground.
    Minus 5 is the usual point for snow (if you have precipitation and low pressure ). The minus 5 will be shown as a dotted line.

    Hope this helps.

    (P.s it does look colder for the middle of next week on again but check out the charts).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,639 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Every lad I met today telling me that they heard from someone else that going to be back to the cold weather again for Easter. Just wondering if anyone could fill us in on what the experts are actually saying?

    They obviously all read the tabloids. I heard this too but a quick Google brings up all the same papers that tell us we will be snowed in from October to March every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    emaherx wrote: »
    They obviously all read the tabloids. I heard this too but a quick Google brings up all the same papers that tell us we will be snowed in from October to March every year.

    The charts. The charts.
    Look at the bleedin charts!!! :D

    Or if you can't read a chart or read the weather forum on boards.

    Listen to this fella.
    https://youtu.be/j1HDIwgWvIw


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I'm getting so fed up of this weather, https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055579971&page=320

    I've even stopped thanking MT cranium:( rain just starting here now.

    Don't look at this https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057847461&page=20 if the weather is p1ssing you off.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I'm getting so fed up of this weather, https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055579971&page=320

    I've even stopped thanking MT cranium:( rain just starting here now.

    Don't look at this https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057847461&page=20 if the weather is p1ssing you off.

    True Blue, but after the next few days the trend is dry and cold.

    Not great - but a hell of a lot better than wet (or snowy) and cold.

    This will at least give most people a chance to get slurry, fert and some stock out.

    Growth won't be great, but with longer days and hopefully some sunshine fields with a cover of grass will start moving on.

    A side-effect of this delayed spring is that whenever we do get a run of mild weather, the grass will go from famine to feast in the blink of an eye.

    I guarantee in 4 or 5 weeks time there will be lads complaining about not being able to control the grass growing out over the ditches! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,660 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Neddyusa wrote: »
    True Blue, but after the next few days the trend is dry and cold.

    Not great - but a hell of a lot better than wet (or snowy) and cold.

    This will at least give most people a chance to get slurry, fert and some stock out.

    Growth won't be great, but with longer days and hopefully some sunshine fields with a cover of grass will start moving on.

    A side-effect of this delayed spring is that whenever we do get a run of mild weather, the grass will go from famine to feast in the blink of an eye.

    I guarantee in 4 or 5 weeks time there will be lads complaining about not being able to control the grass growing out over the ditches! :)

    Hope to god your right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Neddyusa wrote: »
    True Blue, but after the next few days the trend is dry and cold.

    Not great - but a hell of a lot better than wet (or snowy) and cold.

    This will at least give most people a chance to get slurry, fert and some stock out.

    Growth won't be great, but with longer days and hopefully some sunshine fields with a cover of grass will start moving on.

    A side-effect of this delayed spring is that whenever we do get a run of mild weather, the grass will go from famine to feast in the blink of an eye.

    I guarantee in 4 or 5 weeks time there will be lads complaining about not being able to control the grass growing out over the ditches! :)

    There could be something in what you say. Last year the growth came in all of a sudden. I got behind in May and I never got totally back in front of it tbph. Ill be watching growth like a hawk this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,660 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    There could be something in what you say. Last year the growth came in all of a sudden. I got behind in May and I never got totally back in front of it tbph. Ill be watching growth like a hawk this year.

    Easier said than done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Easier said than done

    Tis, between work and everything else. But I learned my lesson last year. I've already staggered the fertiliser application to help reduce the glut. And I'll be smarter with my subsequent applications.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,391 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Biggest problem I had when the burst of growth came last yr was the quality justed didn't seem to be in the grass, and as a result the cows didn't milk well, protein crashed, and took them 2 months to recover. Lesson learnt for this year is to not go as crazy with the fertilizer and keep 3kg of a decent Fibre based nut in the diet into early June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Biggest problem I had when the burst of growth came last yr was the quality justed didn't seem to be in the grass, and as a result the cows didn't milk well, protein crashed, and took them 2 months to recover. Lesson learnt for this year is to not go as crazy with the fertilizer and keep 3kg of a decent Fibre based nut in the diet into early June.
    I'm not into Dairy but I do remember that burst of growth...it really messed up my paddock system for the finishers. And as you say I was playing catch up for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭nhg


    Today's Weather Forecast from M.T Cranium's Thread on the Weather Forum

    Friday, 23 March, 2018

    Forecasts for Ireland

    Be forewarned, winter wants yet another chance to impress us, with another easterly spell of unseasonably cold weather showing up on all the guidance today from about middle of next week through the Easter weekend. Details (obviously quite a long way to go before much confidence can be had in these) in the forecast.

    TODAY ... Variable cloud, some showers at times, strong westerly winds 50 to 80 km/hr diminishing all morning, then after some sunny intervals here and there, a few outbreaks of rain developing, heavier in south by late in the day. Highs near 8 C. Some showers could contain a bit of hail especially in north and west today.

    TONIGHT ... Partial clearing, light rain more confined to south coast by midnight then drying out there too, frost developing inland central and northern counties, lows -3 to +2 C.

    SATURDAY ... Partly cloudy, breezy, passing showers, winds west to northwest 40-60 km/hr, and highs 7-10 C.

    SUNDAY ... Some early sunshine then increasing cloud, outbreaks of light rain, cool. Lows -2 to +2 C and highs 8-10 C.

    MONDAY ... Windy with rain at times, winds southwest 70-100 km/hr veering westerly, temperatures steady 7 to 9 C (11 to 13 C south coast). Rainfalls of 20 to 30 mm likely.

    TUESDAY ... Showers, moderate west to northwest winds across southern half of Ireland but light or northeasterly in Ulster and parts of Connacht, turning colder from mid-day in north and late in the day across the south, highs 4 to 7 C north, 8 to 10 C central and 10 to 13 C south. About 10-15 mm of rain likely during the first part of the day, some mixed wintry showers developing in north by evening.

    OUTLOOK ... Another cold spell is indicated from mid-week (Wed 28th) to the Easter weekend, with an easterly wind setting in for several days. Although it may be cold enough to snow in some places, with highs near 5 C and overnight lows to -2 or lower, the spell looks fairly dry so any snow would likely be isolated to higher ground in Leinster. However, at some point around Good Friday (30th) a sleet and snow mixture may push into parts of the south and some mixed wintry showers might develop in Leinster from streamers in the east winds which will become brisk at times over the Easter weekend. The cold air looks set to remain around Ireland into early April. It's too early to say whether this spell will match the last one for snowfall potential but despite the advance of the season by two weeks, this is far from impossible, in fact, one of Ireland's heaviest snowfalls occurred on the first two days of April in 1917.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,660 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Lovely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,277 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Some rain fell here last night


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Some rain fell here last night

    Some or some?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,277 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Some or some?

    A lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Lovely

    The start of the ice age.





    I'll get my coat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    The start of the ice age.





    I'll get my coat.

    You'll need it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    ganmo wrote: »
    You'll need it

    I lines them up for ya. ;):p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭nhg


    Today's update from M.T Cranium from the Weather Forum

    Saturday, 24 March, 2018

    Forecasts for Ireland


    TODAY ... Partly cloudy, breezy and rather cool, with a few passing showers, but some sunny intervals in blustery winds west to northwest 40-60 km/hr, and highs 7-10 C.

    TONIGHT ... Some clear intervals, quite cold, lows -3 to +2 C. Frost likely.

    SUNDAY ... Some early sunshine then increasing cloud, showers developing, cool. Lows -3 to +2 C and highs 8-10 C.

    MONDAY ... Windy with rain at times, winds southwest 70-100 km/hr veering westerly, temperatures steady 7 to 9 C (11 to 13 C south coast). Rainfalls of 20 to 30 mm likely.

    TUESDAY ... Showers, moderate to strong west to northwest winds across southern half of Ireland but light to moderate northwest to northerly in Ulster and parts of Connacht, turning colder from mid-day in north and late in the day across the south, highs 5 to 8 C north, 9 to 11 C central and 10 to 13 C south. About 10-15 mm of rain likely during the first part of the day, some mixed wintry showers developing in north by evening.

    WEDNESDAY ... Partly cloudy to overcast, cold, outbreaks of sleety light rain with snow on some hills, lows near 0 C and highs near 7 C.

    THURSDAY ... Mostly cloudy, light rain or sleet, snow on some hills, lows near -2 C and highs near 6 or 7 C.

    GOOD FRIDAY to EASTER SUNDAY weekend ... The indications remain rather cold although perhaps not quite as cold as earlier expected, even so, mixed wintry showers will be possible and there could be outbreaks of either cold rain or sleet with low pressure not far away from the south or southeast coasts at times. Highs during the weekend period will be in the range of 5 to 8 C and slight to moderate frosts likely at night especially in Connacht and Ulster. So although snow now appears rather limited to higher ground, there could be another change in this outlook with this much time remaining, and keeping in mind the previous pattern of easterly spells appearing then becoming stronger on the charts towards the five day outlook (which in this case would be about Monday or Tuesday).

    FURTHER OUTLOOK ... Staying cold well into April with sharp frosts continuing, a very backward spring showing few signs of a pattern change any time before mid-April. Eventually though I do expect that things will improve markedly if for no other reason than the law of averages kicking in, but also research shows that quite often a cold early spring is followed by a warm late April and May regime.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭I says


    nhg wrote: »
    Today's update from M.T Cranium from the Weather Forum

    Saturday, 24 March, 2018

    Forecasts for Ireland


    TODAY ... Partly cloudy, breezy and rather cool, with a few passing showers, but some sunny intervals in blustery winds west to northwest 40-60 km/hr, and highs 7-10 C.

    TONIGHT ... Some clear intervals, quite cold, lows -3 to +2 C. Frost likely.

    SUNDAY ... Some early sunshine then increasing cloud, showers developing, cool. Lows -3 to +2 C and highs 8-10 C.

    MONDAY ... Windy with rain at times, winds southwest 70-100 km/hr veering westerly, temperatures steady 7 to 9 C (11 to 13 C south coast). Rainfalls of 20 to 30 mm likely.

    TUESDAY ... Showers, moderate to strong west to northwest winds across southern half of Ireland but light to moderate northwest to northerly in Ulster and parts of Connacht, turning colder from mid-day in north and late in the day across the south, highs 5 to 8 C north, 9 to 11 C central and 10 to 13 C south. About 10-15 mm of rain likely during the first part of the day, some mixed wintry showers developing in north by evening.

    WEDNESDAY ... Partly cloudy to overcast, cold, outbreaks of sleety light rain with snow on some hills, lows near 0 C and highs near 7 C.

    THURSDAY ... Mostly cloudy, light rain or sleet, snow on some hills, lows near -2 C and highs near 6 or 7 C.

    GOOD FRIDAY to EASTER SUNDAY weekend ... The indications remain rather cold although perhaps not quite as cold as earlier expected, even so, mixed wintry showers will be possible and there could be outbreaks of either cold rain or sleet with low pressure not far away from the south or southeast coasts at times. Highs during the weekend period will be in the range of 5 to 8 C and slight to moderate frosts likely at night especially in Connacht and Ulster. So although snow now appears rather limited to higher ground, there could be another change in this outlook with this much time remaining, and keeping in mind the previous pattern of easterly spells appearing then becoming stronger on the charts towards the five day outlook (which in this case would be about Monday or Tuesday).

    FURTHER OUTLOOK ... Staying cold well into April with sharp frosts continuing, a very backward spring showing few signs of a pattern change any time before mid-April. Eventually though I do expect that things will improve markedly if for no other reason than the law of averages kicking in, but also research shows that quite often a cold early spring is followed by a warm late April and May regime.




    When is it ever going to end.......

    Mid-April he said in the article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    I says wrote: »
    Mid-April he said in the article

    It was mid May in 2013


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭I says


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    It was mid May in 2013

    Hopefully not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,277 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    It was mid May in 2013

    2013 wasnt a wet spring just a cold cnut of a one afair


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Every acre of ground was skint in 13 and nothing grew back whereas now there is grass just ground is so wet. On/ off grazing with cows is one thing but doing it with yearlings is a right pain


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