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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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  • #1052
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    You'd think senior Hutch and Kinahan figures would sit down and iron it out for once and for all like men. Instead of fighting over coffins.

    The war must be killing their business.


  • #1053
    steve-collins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭steve-collins


    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/2312384/dublin-man-fights-for-life-in-hospital-after-being-stabbed-and-beaten-in-costa-del-sol-home/amp/

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0315/947750-money-laundering-kinahan/


  • #1054
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    You'd think senior Hutch and Kinahan figures would sit down and iron it out for once and for all like men. Instead of fighting over coffins.

    The war must be killing their business.

    They got look good on an international seen so......

    It would have no impact on business unless garda get the drugs as they have done but it's small in the bigger scheme of things.

    IMO.


  • #1055
    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    steve-collins wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/2312384/dublin-man-fights-for-life-in-hospital-after-being-stabbed-and-beaten-in-costa-del-sol-home/amp/

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0315/947750-money-laundering-kinahan/

    Any idea who lives in the area?


  • #1056
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Just seen Anto Fitz walking his dog up henry street.. Not a bother on him.


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  • #1057
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    You'd think senior Hutch and Kinahan figures would sit down and iron it out for once and for all like men. Instead of fighting over coffins.

    The war must be killing their business.

    How would they do that? Neither would trust each other at this stage. And they're not like men. Coward scum using others to murder for them.


  • #1058
    monty_python
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Suckit wrote: »
    How would they do that? Neither would trust each other at this stage. And they're not like men. Coward scum using others to murder for them.

    They did it already didn't they? And the hutches paid money to save one of their lives and the kinahans kill him anyway


  • #1059
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    monty_python wrote: »
    They did it already didn't they? And the hutches paid money to save one of their lives and the kinahans kill him anyway

    Yeah before it all really kicked off. No way either could trust the other now though.


  • #1060
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    corner of hells wrote: »
    I've family living in the city , they reckon it's to cause tension and give the impression there's a grass.

    Keeps people on edge.
    North inner city hoodlum wrote: »
    They can be held for 7 days so the 17th charged or the guards go back to to court to hold on to them.

    Anyone know why three of them were named and the fourth wasn't even though he's held on the same charges?

    Anyone remember the storyline in Love/Hate where they arrested the whole crew after the tiger kidnapping, but let Elmo off without charge and called out "Thank you very much for your assistance and co-operation sir, you're free to go" as he was leaving the station? IIRC they went as far as to spray paint "Elmo is a rat" outside his apartment balcony, and it caused the lads to sideline him for weeks.

    Always wondered if that kind of thing was just for fiction or if the cops would be allowed to do anything like that - letting a known gangster off the hook albeit temporarily just so everyone would think he was a rat and sideline him.


  • #1061
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Fiction - would likely contribute towards someone's murder in reality


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  • #1062
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Passed 3 armed checks tonight... One of which was on a back road outside of dublin


  • #1063
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Passed 3 armed checks tonight... One of which was on a back road outside of dublin

    Gardaí have seized a loaded gun and a vehicle during a search operation targeting feud-related criminal activity.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0316/948044-gun-car-recovered/

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1064
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    According to Michael O'Toole @mickthehack, the 2 lads who got lifted down in Gorey have been released without charge. File to the dpp.

    Maybe they would be safer in custody at this stage.


  • #1065
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    One of them in particular is a Hutch friend and associate his whole life. There's very little loyalty there. Money talks.


  • #1066
    rondog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭rondog


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/fugitive-cartel-hitmen-linked-to-four-murders-arrested-in-uk-36715998.html
    The Finglas thug is the same lad involved in the Eddie hutch murder.Its funny how he has fallen,from being a big bulking boxer feared through out finglas to being a junkie and crack addict staying in crack houses.Karma eh?
    And the other lad whos picture is on the John smith twitter account has also become a junkie living on the streets.
    If the Cops can properly link them to the previous murders it will probably save their lives.At least they will have a warm cell and 3 meals a day to keepthem happy.


  • #1067
    shane.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭shane.


    Supposedly Ross Hutch has moved to Australia, how the hell would he get a visa!?


  • #1068
    White lighting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭White lighting


    shane. wrote: »
    Supposedly Ross Hutch has moved to Australia, how the hell would he get a visa!?

    God only knows but not sure what major convictions he has. Would have been a nervous time going through customs though after that long flight.


  • #1069
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    shane. wrote: »
    Supposedly Ross Hutch has moved to Australia, how the hell would he get a visa!?

    its obviously not as hard to get over there as its made out to be. i know of numerous scumbags with theft and drugs convictions that are currently living it up in Austrailia.


  • #1070
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    thebull85 wrote: »
    its obviously not as hard to get over there as its made out to be. i know of numerous scumbags with theft and drugs convictions that are currently living it up in Austrailia.

    The ginger chap arrested last week was deported from Australia after his previous convictions were discovered... Perhaps you can lie on entry but get discovered if you get arrested?


  • #1071
    francis_begbie
    Site Banned Posts: 21 ✭francis_begbie


    pablo128 wrote: »
    According to Michael O'Toole @mickthehack, the 2 lads who got lifted down in Gorey have been released without charge. File to the dpp.

    Maybe they would be safer in custody at this stage.

    Have most of the previous lads caught on the way to (allegedly) kill Hutch associates with loaded firearms been charged with conspiracy to murder them, or usually just copped minor gun possession charges? I'd imagine that in the absence of either a wiretap recording or a witness prepared to testify in court that proving these people were carrying guns with the intent to murder, as opposed to carrying them to merely wound, threaten or fire a warning shot through a window/ door would be nigh on impossible. Some of these lads mightn't even cop a custodial or would get out with remand time served. With such short sentences on the table it's an easier way for them to earn a five figure sum than committing a robbery or moving an equivalent amount of drugs, which would both cop a longer jail term.


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  • #1072
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    francis_begbie wrote: »
    Have most of the previous lads caught on the way to (allegedly) kill Hutch associates with loaded firearms been charged with conspiracy to murder them, or usually just copped minor gun possession charges? I'd imagine that in the absence of either a wiretap recording or a witness prepared to testify in court that proving these people were carrying guns with the intent to murder, as opposed to carrying them to merely wound, threaten or fire a warning shot through a window/ door would be nigh on impossible. Some of these lads mightn't even cop a custodial or would get out with remand time served. With such short sentences on the table it's an easier way for them to earn a five figure sum than committing a robbery or moving an equivalent amount of drugs, which would both cop a longer jail term.
    At least one of them was reportedly caught in a car with 2 loaded guns. Dunno about you but I don't want idiots like that roaming the streets.


  • #1073
    francis_begbie
    Site Banned Posts: 21 ✭francis_begbie


    pablo128 wrote: »
    At least one of them was reportedly caught in a car with 2 loaded guns. Dunno about you but I don't want idiots like that roaming the streets.

    Where did I say I did? Was just wondering has anyone actually been charged with conspiring to murder X and Y or whether it was all possession charges.

    Anyone know how many people have been charged after being caught en route?


  • #1074
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    The ginger chap arrested last week was deported from Australia after his previous convictions were discovered... Perhaps you can lie on entry but get discovered if you get arrested?

    i thought there checks done before you enter the country as in when you apply for visa to live and work there, i could be wrong.


  • #1075
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    thebull85 wrote: »
    i thought there checks done before you enter the country as in when you apply for visa to live and work there, i could be wrong.

    If you are applying for a visa they look for a police certificate of character from you but they don't have access to Garda records.


  • #1076
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    francis_begbie wrote: »
    Where did I say I did? Was just wondering has anyone actually been charged with conspiring to murder X and Y or whether it was all possession charges.

    Anyone know how many people have been charged after being caught en route?

    I don't think they are going with murder charges but with possession of a firearm with intent. And there was a conviction for it.


  • #1077
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Former crime boss Gerry 'The Monk' Hutch may flee to America.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/former-crime-boss-gerry-the-14437888

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1078
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Are we allowed discuss the ongoing regency trial? Don't wanna get the thread locked again


  • #1079
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Are we allowed discuss the ongoing regency trial? Don't wanna get the thread locked again

    i highly doubt it.


  • #1080
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Are we allowed discuss the ongoing regency trial? Don't wanna get the thread locked again

    You said it yourself - ongoing. So no.


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  • #1081
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Skylinehead wrote: »
    You said it yourself - ongoing. So no.

    Not even the reasons around the adjournement? Not being a dick here, just thought that might be open to discussion. If not no worries


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