The Breast Feeding Support Thread

Toots · 19-03-2018 12:38PM

Where are you heading? Oddly enough, I found that the one thing that was more expensive in Spain was nappies! We ran out one day before we left so we just bought some super cheapo ones to do us for the day.

bee06 · 19-03-2018 12:51PM

We’re going to Poland for a family wedding. I don’t know what it will be like because the accommodation was booked for us. Not a clue about location, nearby supermarkets or anything!

rainbow kirby · 19-03-2018 02:45PM

No issues with breastfeeding in France when we were there Toots. Formula was way more expensive than it is in the UK or Ireland though.

Toots · 19-03-2018 05:21PM

rainbow kirby wrote: »

No issues with breastfeeding in France when we were there Toots. Formula was way more expensive than it is in the UK or Ireland though.

That's good to hear, at least I don't have to worry about bringing scarves or the like to cover up when I'm feeding her.

It's interesting about the formula being so expensive there, I never looked at the prices of it when I was in Spain because I'd brought loads over with me. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to get the same one over there so I just came prepared - took up most of my baggage allowance too! :pac:

Millem · 19-03-2018 06:53PM

girls do I have any chance on getting my guy to accept a bottle? He’s 7 months.
I am wrecked as am feeding at least twice in the night.....older boy can wake any time from 5am!!!! Doctor said to try and give him a bottle of formula and baby rice before bed.
Anyway the only person he will take a bottle from is 1 granny and I can’t be in house.....no one else. He took a bottle once for other granny when he was asleep at 11pm but no more success. He goes crazy if we try give him a bottle.

We have tried tommee tippee, avent, nuby, and spectra bottles.

He takes a few mouthfuls from his beaker and doidy cup and takes solids no problem;)

bee06 · 19-03-2018 06:58PM

I’d say you’d be better off focusing on getting him to take it from a beaker/cup at this stage. You’d have to stop them in a few months anyway.

jlm29 · 19-03-2018 07:17PM

It’s hard when they won’t play ball with the bottles! Do any of those bottles you tried have a latex teat? That’s all mine would take.
Other than that, I’d probably be just keeping going with the cup. Mine are whizzes with straw cups.
Do you want to give a bottle to start weaning, or just to get a nights sleep?? I wouldn’t hold out too much hope that baby rice and formula will fix it.... it’s seen as a magic cure really, but I think some of them are just born to be bad sleepers ðŸ˜¢ðŸ˜¢ðŸ˜¢

scarepanda · 19-03-2018 07:35PM

Congrats toots! It's a great feeling when you meet a milestone/goal you've set for yourself. Next one is the 6month/starting solids, and if you can get that far it's a breeze afterwards!

Bee06, have you travelled with a baby before? We've travelled a few times with herself, and while it's grand, the next time we go anywhere I will 100% be checking in a bag. It's a pain in the hole (In our opinion anyways) having the bags of 3 people (possibly 5 bags if you travel with Ryanair) but essentially only one person to handle them when going through security and getting sorted on the plane, because one of you will almost certainly be out of action because they will be holding baby. I know â‚¬50 is expensive for a bag, but worth it for having less hassle imo.

Millem, I would definitely start trying to introduce a beaker. My little one was a rascal with bottles, but once we started her on solids we introduced a beaker. The best one I've come across and the one she took to the easiest is the nuby 360, and it's the only one that's grown with her properly from 6/7 months right up to now.

bee06 · 19-03-2018 07:48PM

Thanks Scarepanda, we haven’t travelled with a baby before but it won’t be just the three of us. There will be 10 of us altogether because my whole family are travelling on the same flights. Definitely wouldn’t think about it otherwise!

scarepanda · 19-03-2018 08:04PM

Aw that's not so bad so! We usually have two backpack type hand luggage style bags on our backs (hard to explain, but amazing for travelling), and then a laptop style bag each and nappy bag. I baby wear, so I have herself on my front, backpack on my back and nappy bag across my shoulder. My OH then carries his two bags and the baby's clothes bag. It's fairly compact and easy to maneuver around, but man it's a pain in the ass at security and getting settled on the plane.

Also, figure out roughly how many nappies baby is going through a day and planning accordingly re your nappy supply. They take up sooooo much room in hand luggage even though they are not heavy, so you'll want enough, but not too many. We usually allow for an extra nappy/day which has always been more than enough for us.

Millem · 19-03-2018 08:13PM

jlm29 wrote: »

It’s hard when they won’t play ball with the bottles! Do any of those bottles you tried have a latex teat? That’s all mine would take.
Other than that, I’d probably be just keeping going with the cup. Mine are whizzes with straw cups.
Do you want to give a bottle to start weaning, or just to get a nights sleep?? I wouldn’t hold out too much hope that baby rice and formula will fix it.... it’s seen as a magic cure really, but I think some of them are just born to be bad sleepers &#55357;&#56866;&#55357;&#56866;&#55357;&#56866;

Really really really really need sleep. I am so exhausted. Even if I could sleep from 7pm-3am and husband could feed bottle at 11pm!
I find breastfeeding handier during the day then the malarky of bottles and formula.
I find it hard even going out by myself as need to be back to feed.

Toots · 20-03-2018 11:35AM

Could you try a NUK bottle? Those are the teats they use in the hospital - the yellow latex ones - so it might feel a bit more "skin" like.

My little one won't take a bottle from me because I think she knows that when I'm feeding her the milk comes from boobs. She takes a bottle for my husband no bother, and my mum was minding her the other day and she took one for her although she did puke the entire thing up right afterwards.

bee06 · 21-03-2018 07:36PM

I think my son thinks I’m a total weirdo! I’ve spent the last two days at his nose because he was all stuffed up. Saline drops, aspirator, humidifier ... the works. Finally sorted it with the miracle that is breastmilk!

Pocos · 24-03-2018 04:37AM

Millem wrote: »

Really really really really need sleep. I am so exhausted. Even if I could sleep from 7pm-3am and husband could feed bottle at 11pm!
I find breastfeeding handier during the day then the malarky of bottles and formula.
I find it hard even going out by myself as need to be back to feed.

Hi all new to the trend. My daughter is 11 weeks and won’t take a bottle consistently... sometimes she does but out of maybe 30 times we’ve tried she takes it about 6 times!

We have tried lots of bottles but the nuk bottke eity the orange teat seem to work the best! But she doesn’t enjoy it more just puts up with it!!!

It’s so hard cos I can never leave her and feel anyway relaxed!

Chel1989 · 26-03-2018 04:36PM

Hi I gave birth to my son 15/03/2018 and now 11 days later I am being admitted to hospital with mastitis anyone else experience mastitis? I feel as if it's never going to get better so sore I can't feed from even massage the breast so can't see how I will get any better

Pocos · 26-03-2018 05:54PM

Chel1989 wrote: »

Hi I gave birth to my son 15/03/2018 and now 11 days later I am being admitted to hospital with mastitis anyone else experience mastitis? I feel as if it's never going to get better so sore I can't feed from even massage the breast so can't see how I will get any better

Hi Chel1989

Sorry to hear you got mastitis especially 11 days after labour!

I got mastitis 3 weeks after I had my Little girl! Have you been given antibiotics?? I found after 48 hours of them I felt SOOOO much better!

I know it’s sore but you just have to keep feeding from the sore boob or expressing from it! What I did was take neurofen, take a really hot shower, let water flow over the sore boob in particular, 30 mins after taking the neurofen express from the sore boob.. it was painful and not a lot came out! Did it for maybe 3 days and on the third day I could feel a pop and literally could feel the duct unblocking! It was such a relief! So maybe the combination of antibiotics and expressing unblocked the duct!

Be careful not to ignore the other boob though either cos that could become blocked too!

It’s not nice but it does get easier! Take plenty of paracetamol to help with the pain! Best of luck

rainbow kirby · 26-03-2018 08:16PM

I had mastitis when my older son was 4 months old. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy! The important things to remember are "heat, rest, empty breast" - you must keep feeding or at the very least expressing as it will only be even more painful otherwise. Hand expressing in a hot shower or using hot compresses on the breast will help. Make sure you go to your GP and get antibiotics too.

hcass · 27-03-2018 07:45PM

Hi all - I just started back at work three weeks ago. I am still EBF - introducing small bit of food but just a spoon or two a day so really baby is relying on my milk for the vast majority of her food intake. So - since returning I am trying to pump the milk she doesn't drink ( I work from 8.30am - 12.30pm and baby is at minder's house drinking expressed milk) However this is getting very difficult and less and less milk is coming out for me.

Breastfeeding has always been so easy for me but now I am hitting a wall - I am not producing enough for my baby and feeds are ending in tears (hers and mine) I do not want to stop breastfeeding so has anyone any solutions proven to increase supply. I put her on the breast all the time - I thought the supply would increase to meet her demands but I'm afraid the few hours I am away from her are ruining everything.

She has started refusing feeds in the morning and after the minders and is instead taking huge bottles of expressed milk at the minder's house. I am on two weeks holidays at the moment and saw this as an opportunity to get my supply up and get baby into a habit of taking morning feed and feed around 12 noon but it is not working and my supply is not increasing at all.

Can anyone help ?

Cakerbaker · 27-03-2018 07:58PM

hcass wrote: »

Hi all - I just started back at work three weeks ago. I am still EBF - introducing small bit of food but just a spoon or two a day so really baby is relying on my milk for the vast majority of her food intake. So - since returning I am trying to pump the milk she doesn't drink ( I work from 8.30am - 12.30pm and baby is at minder's house drinking expressed milk) However this is getting very difficult and less and less milk is coming out for me.

Breastfeeding has always been so easy for me but now I am hitting a wall - I am not producing enough for my baby and feeds are ending in tears (hers and mine) I do not want to stop breastfeeding so has anyone any solutions proven to increase supply. I put her on the breast all the time - I thought the supply would increase to meet her demands but I'm afraid the few hours I am away from her are ruining everything.

She has started refusing feeds in the morning and after the minders and is instead taking huge bottles of expressed milk at the minder's house. I am on two weeks holidays at the moment and saw this as an opportunity to get my supply up and get baby into a habit of taking morning feed and feed around 12 noon but it is not working and my supply is not increasing at all.

Can anyone help ?

This is probably going to sound like more questions than answers...and you may be doing some of this already so ignore if you are..... What age is she?

Is the minder doing paced bottle feeding? Babies can prefer the faster easier flow of the bottle so paced bottle feeding helps with that. Also use the slowest newborn teats in the bottle as these help slow the milk down.

hcass · 27-03-2018 08:29PM

Cakerbaker wrote: »

This is probably going to sound like more questions than answers...and you may be doing some of this already so ignore if you are..... What age is she?

Is the minder doing paced bottle feeding? Babies can prefer the faster easier flow of the bottle so paced bottle feeding helps with that. Also use the slowest newborn teats in the bottle as these help slow the milk down.

Can't believe I didn't say what age she is. She's two weeks off six months old. What is paced bottle feeds? She uses the newborn teeth.

Thanks for replying

bee06 · 27-03-2018 08:31PM

hcass wrote: »

Can't believe I didn't say what age she is. She's two weeks off six months old. What is paced bottle feeds? She uses the newborn teeth.

Thanks for replying

This has an explanation https://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/feeding-tools/bottle-feeding/

As Cakerbaker said if you don’t use paved bottle feeding they get used to the quicker flow of the bottle and get lazy and frustrated by the effort of getting the milk from the boob.

Cakerbaker · 27-03-2018 08:39PM

hcass wrote: »

Can't believe I didn't say what age she is. She's two weeks off six months old. What is paced bottle feeds? She uses the newborn teeth.

Thanks for replying

https://www.cuidiu-ict.ie/supports_breastfeeding_alternativefeedingmethods

This gives some info on paced feeding. My understanding of it is it makes bottle feeding a bit more difficult than normal / a bit more like breast feeding so baby isn’t as likely to prefer the bottle.

I was going to suggest upping solids so the minder could give less milk but at that age she’s probably too young for that. Another option could be ditching bottles altogether and getting the minder to give the milk using a syringe or cup although someone with more experience with those methods might be better placed to advise on that.

hcass · 27-03-2018 09:17PM

Cakerbaker wrote: »

https://www.cuidiu-ict.ie/supports_breastfeeding_alternativefeedingmethods

This gives some info on paced feeding. My understanding of it is it makes bottle feeding a bit more difficult than normal / a bit more like breast feeding so baby isn’t as likely to prefer the bottle.

I was going to suggest upping solids so the minder could give less milk but at that age she’s probably too young for that. Another option could be ditching bottles altogether and getting the minder to give the milk using a syringe or cup although someone with more experience with those methods might be better placed to advise on that.

Thanks but it's just too much to ask of her (cup feeding or syringe) - it's a very casual arrangement. I will ask her about the paced feeding though, that seems less of an ask.

jlm29 · 28-03-2018 12:44AM

Has anyone successfully night weaned a less than one year old? I know that it’s not recommended, but I’m back to work in two weeks, I’ve got two other small kids, and I really don’t think I can manage it all on my broken sleep!
We’re co-sleeping for some of the night, which does help, but I think I need to tackle this earlier than I originally planned!

catrionanic · 28-03-2018 08:48AM

jlm29 wrote: »

Has anyone successfully night weaned a less than one year old? I know that it’s not recommended, but I’m back to work in two weeks, I’ve got two other small kids, and I really don’t think I can manage it all on my broken sleep!
We’re co-sleeping for some of the night, which does help, but I think I need to tackle this earlier than I originally planned!

How many times a night is baba feeding? And how old is he/she?

We didn’t manage to night-wean before one, but when I was working, my husband would get up in the night and give him a bottle of expressed milk - usually just once a night. I also started giving him a little “supper” before bed - just a pancake or a bit of porridge or something - which seemed to keep him full for a bit longer.

We also found that he often wasn’t waking for feeds - more for comfort or help getting back to sleep. He was in his own room so my husband would go in and try to settle him. If he saw me, he wouldn’t settle until he had the boob.

He started sleeping through at 13 months.

lazygal · 28-03-2018 10:37AM

jlm29 wrote: »

Has anyone successfully night weaned a less than one year old? I know that it’s not recommended, but I’m back to work in two weeks, I’ve got two other small kids, and I really don’t think I can manage it all on my broken sleep!
We’re co-sleeping for some of the night, which does help, but I think I need to tackle this earlier than I originally planned!

Yes. Did a very gentle few nights of lifting and cuddling without feeding when they woke, then put them down in the cot. Repeat as needed. After a few nights they slept through. Never let them cry for too long or get distressed.

jlm29 · 28-03-2018 09:14PM

He’s 9 months. I’ve realised the last few days that some days he feeds very very little (he could go from 7am to 6pm). Other days he feeds plenty.
I’ve two weeks off in July, maybe I should just suck it up until then, because he’ll be one, but then I think maybe I should tackle it now.

Toots · 28-03-2018 11:12PM

hcass wrote: »

Thanks but it's just too much to ask of her (cup feeding or syringe) - it's a very casual arrangement. I will ask her about the paced feeding though, that seems less of an ask.

AFAIK you can get bottles with teats that work like breastfeeding so the baby has to work a bit more for he milk. Lansinoh is the only one I know of off the top of my head but I'm sure there's others.

catrionanic · 29-03-2018 06:12AM

jlm29 wrote: »

He’s 9 months. I’ve realised the last few days that some days he feeds very very little (he could go from 7am to 6pm). Other days he feeds plenty.
I’ve two weeks off in July, maybe I should just suck it up until then, because he’ll be one, but then I think maybe I should tackle it now.

9 months is still young enough. There’s no way my wee man would have gone a whole night without at least 1-2 feeds at that age. Have you considered moving him to his own room as a first step? Next step being getting Daddy to go in to soothe him and you not being there.

I also found I slept a lot better when we moved him to his own room at 6 months, as every little noise he made was no longer disturbing me.

jlm29 · 29-03-2018 07:30AM

catrionanic wrote: »

jlm29 wrote: »

He’s 9 months. I’ve realised the last few days that some days he feeds very very little (he could go from 7am to 6pm). Other days he feeds plenty.
I’ve two weeks off in July, maybe I should just suck it up until then, because he’ll be one, but then I think maybe I should tackle it now.

9 months is still young enough. There’s no way my wee man would have gone a whole night without at least 1-2 feeds at that age. Have you considered moving him to his own room as a first step? Next step being getting Daddy to go in to soothe him and you not being there.

I also found I slept a lot better when we moved him to his own room at 6 months, as every little noise he made was no longer disturbing me.

I know he’s still quite young- I don’t expect him to go the night, but I need a few hours together! He’s waking a gazillion times, and I think most of it is just for comfort. He starts off in his own room, and I go into him for the first couple of feeds, but I usually end up bringing him in with me at around 3 am

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