Sex offenders register after being sent a video

tretorn wrote: »

It was a video of a five year old being raped and it lasted five minutes.

He is a father of four which makes it even worse. I hope all his computers were searched.

Wonder why was he questioned in the airport in the first place and how did he come to be in this country.

There arefar too many of these non nationals appearing before our courts on unsavoury sex charges. I hope someone is keeping a track of each one convicted and their nationality.( before they came to be New Irish)

Child rape and here you go, do you guys ever let up, seriously you're disgusting.
Over the last few years a number of people have been caught with child porn in my region and they all just happen to be Irish and the kinda people you'd least expect. Nationality has **** all to do with it.

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I'm not condoning it in any way, shape, or form, but I regularly find dozens of pictures and videos which have been sent across various WhatsApp groups that I have zero recollection of ever seeing, they're just there after being sent. Nothing illegal I might add.

Then they're on Google Photo's, then they're on my PC, then they're on my dad's tablet I once logged in on and never logged out of. You get the idea.

He should have done something after receiving it, deleting at the minimum, but his story absolutely is not beyond reasonable doubt.

Yeahhhhh but child rape isn't like, a dumb video or meme. That would surely stand out a bit to either burn the ****ing thing off your phone, or report it to the Garda.

This is the second case involving the Same video , both received light sentences ,

Prison time followed by immediate deportation back to Nigeria for both offender's

tretorn wrote: »

Dont you think we have enough of our own deviants without importing more.

No one should be allowed into this country unless they have documentation to prove who they are and they can shown they have no history of sexual deviancy.

There is a non stop procession of non nationals in our Courts on serious sexual assault charges and their defence is funded by the free legal aid service.

I am sick reading about them and their depraved attitudes to women and children. As I said the ethnic origins of those convicted should be noted as it definitely appears that the numbers of immigrants appearing in Court are too high in relation to their numbers in the country.

It's easy to turn almost every topic around to focus on your own little fears, this thread is about child porn and pedophilia.
Is it not, the cloak of respectability that posses the real danger? but as always you'll have those who are blinded by their irrational fear of the other, fear of change, so they go down the complete wrong road and more likely to put their own loved ones in harms way.

bear1 wrote: »

I once opened rotten.com back in the early 00s and i still remember what I saw.
How in the name of fook could you forget, I repeat FORGET that you have a video of a 5 year old victim, life and innocence destroyed, on your phone graphically being raped by a piece of **** excuse of a man?
Bull****.

+1 on this.

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I'm not condoning it in any way, shape, or form, but I regularly find dozens of pictures and videos which have been sent across various WhatsApp groups that I have zero recollection of ever seeing, they're just there after being sent. Nothing illegal I might add.

Then they're on Google Photo's, then they're on my PC, then they're on my dad's tablet I once logged in on and never logged out of. You get the idea.

He should have done something after receiving it, deleting at the minimum, but his story absolutely is not beyond reasonable doubt.

Bullsh!te. Hes a lying scumbag.

I remember back in the day when Chatroulette and Omegle were new enough on the scene and a bit of a novelty, I was having a gander when up popped my next video chatter. But it wasn't a person* , it was a grainy low resolution video on the screen that I couldn't quite make out.

So I was squinting and moving my head closer to my screen when after about 10 seconds I realised what I was looking at. The sick bastard was showing a video of a child getting abused.
The second I realised I got such a fright it felt like my heart was jumping out of my chest and I was shouting all sorts of incoherent sh!t in horror and disgust and shut the laptop down and didn't go on the internet for the rest of the evening.....or sleep properly that night.

Roughly 10 seconds is all I saw and I'll never ever forget it.
So yeah, hes lying.

Although could different cultures and attitudes be argued here? Not that im excusing his behaviour for even a second.


* I know, mickeys galore on that thing

Hey may not have searched for it... In this instance. People don't just randomly send friends videos like that unless they know their audience. I work in law enforcement in a missing children capacity and this world often surfaces. I've come across this excuse lots of times.

"Oh I never searched for it", "It was sent to me by mistake", "I forgot to delete it after a friend used my phone" etc. In the US we'll get a warrant to search other personal devices. And more often than not. We'll find lots of similar material or a disturbing search history.

Decent people do the right thing. You don't forget to delete something like that or ignore reporting it. You keep it for a reason. Should be able to tell how many times it was viewed on the device. I know our tech guys can do stuff like that.

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Hey may not have searched for it... In this instance. People don't just randomly send friends videos like that unless they know their audience. I work in law enforcement in a missing children capacity and this world often surfaces. I've come across this excuse lots of times.

"Oh I never searched for it", "It was sent to me by mistake", "I forgot to delete it after a friend used my phone" etc. In the US we'll get a warrant to search other personal devices. And more often than not. We'll find lots of similar material or a disturbing search history.

Decent people do the right thing. You don't forget to delete something like that or ignore reporting it. You keep it for a reason. Should be able to tell how many times it was viewed on the device. I know our tech guys can do stuff like that.

About 10 years ago a guy in The Netherlands got away with possession of child porn with exactly that excuse "I dint know it was on my pc, i never looked for it" and claimed it must have ended up there while browsing sexsites with adults only.

How he run into trouble was already a head scratcher as his pc was found dumped at the side of the street as garbage. Some guy picked it up and delivered it to a crime reporter who went to have a look.

He claimed he got rid of the pc because it had a virus.
I suppose the reason they didnt prosecute him had absolutely nothing to do with the fact he was a prosecutor himself....
PC not only contained the pics but also files of cases he dealt with in court.

Not harsh at all. Fúck him.

Quite the opposite in fact, I'd have jailed him.

What sort of scumbag hold on to something like that. If someone sent that to me I'd bring it straight to the cops. Nobody forgets that they were sent a video of a child being raped.

FCIM wrote: »

I understand that though I regularly delete the Whatsapp folder which is stored locally on my phone as well as deleting all messages from within Whatsapp (just to clear space). I have seen people with near full capacity phones though and the bulk of it is things like Whatsapp. Maybe I'm just overassuming the tech savviness of people (though I wouldn't think what I do is particularly technical). The fact he didn't block her, ask her not to send stuff like that again nor report it (even if he had done one of the three it would have pointed towards a level of innocence) stinks though.

Tbh I'd be well aware of the folders but until I run out of space I don't bother deleting them. Nothing to do with tech saviness, just sheer laziness. Although in fairness with a video like that I would deliberately ensure I had deleted every single trace of the video on my phone after reporting it.

TomSweeney wrote: »

Yeah I feel physically sick to my stomach too - on two counts, one the horrible video and the other the fact
that he has been put on the Sex Offenders register WTF!!??

First of, the tech aspect - not everyone is tech savvy and know how to delete media from their phone, you shut
down the conversation a lot of people think all associated media is gone.

Second of the lack of reporting, yes this is strange, but again - maybe he thought as it came from a user in the
United States there would be no point going to the police - very naive I know, but people have different views of the
world.

How many people here have received beheading videos or other horrible ISIS style **** on their phones ?
via facebook or twitter etc ?
My guess is quite a few - do you report them ? probably not, what I do is block or mute the user and delete any
media that is on the phone.
We don't report these things tho (maybe to twitter/facebook but not to local authorities), apparently sick **** is ok when it happens to adults.

Remember he didn't seek it out, he didn't distribute it .. he has no taste for this !!

HE IS NOT A THREAT !!!

Even if I can be convinced that it was so negligent NOT to report it, he still isn't a threat to be on the
****ing sex offenders list !! - that list is for people that pose a genuine threat to society as they may re offend.
Sure charge him with withholding evidence ... even if it could be a serious sentence, but not that bloody list
thats a life sentence for him - that he doesn't deserve.

You don't know that ,

He was caught with child porn ,it was sent to him and he viewed and kept it ,

TomSweeney wrote: »

Yeah I feel physically sick to my stomach too - on two counts, one the horrible video and the other the fact
that he has been put on the Sex Offenders register WTF!!??

First of, the tech aspect - not everyone is tech savvy and know how to delete media from their phone, you shut
down the conversation a lot of people think all associated media is gone.

Second of the lack of reporting, yes this is strange, but again - maybe he thought as it came from a user in the
United States there would be no point going to the police - very naive I know, but people have different views of the
world.

How many people here have received beheading videos or other horrible ISIS style **** on their phones ?
via facebook or twitter etc ?
My guess is quite a few - do you report them ? probably not, what I do is block or mute the user and delete any
media that is on the phone.
We don't report these things tho (maybe to twitter/facebook but not to local authorities), apparently sick **** is ok when it happens to adults.

Remember he didn't seek it out, he didn't distribute it .. he has no taste for this !!

HE IS NOT A THREAT !!!

Even if I can be convinced that it was so negligent NOT to report it, he still isn't a threat to be on the
****ing sex offenders list !! - that list is for people that pose a genuine threat to society as they may re offend.
Sure charge him with withholding evidence ... even if it could be a serious sentence, but not that bloody list
thats a life sentence for him - that he doesn't deserve.



Just for the record, if I got a video like this I would be straight to the police and give them all the details
then I would delete the media and reformat the bloody phone - as well as blocking the user of course.

But then again, I like to think of myself as tech savvy - and not so naive in legal issues.

Not at all like not reporting Daesh beheading videos and it's nothing to do with people being OK with them because they involve adult victims. How many people do you know who would think cutting someone's head off is OK or think Daesh are "not so bad really"? Daesh don't hide the fact that they behead people, they don't hide the videos, they want as many people to view them as possible. People vulnerable to their brainwashing in order to encourage recruitment and people who would never join them but who they believe they can frighten. In fact they are incredibly easy to find and their media publication division is extremely slick. The Clarion Project for example hosts a wealth of material on Daesh and other Jihadist activity and is a pretty sizeable anti-Jihadist organisation, tax registered in the USA and is as easy to find as a Google search. Liveleak is another fairly significant site which hosts all sorts of stuff and again is extremely easy to find. Daesh themselves use social media, primarily Twitter, to publicise a huge amount of their activities and there's even a significant group set up to hack their accounts. Most people with even a cursory interest in current affairs knows that Daesh stuff is widespread on the surface web. Why the need to report it if you already know the authorities have to be aware of it? Plus, certain aspects of media produced by Daesh are not illegal to view, Dabiq being an example. It's what you view it for which defines legality.



Child abuse videos are not publicised to anything remotely approaching the same level. The overwhelming majority of child porn is on areas of the web that most people don't access and wouldn't know how to either. Most people know it's not normal to come across child porn unless you actively search it out and would also know that it is unlikely to be found on significant websites. It's hidden and it is generally passed around by rings. It is also never legal to view child pornography. If you want to read Dabiq for research purposes and to gain a better understanding of the Middle East conflict that isn't illegal. If you want to read Dabiq because you harbour desires of "joining the Jihad" then that crosses the line. You can't look at child porn simply for research purposes even without gaining any level of titillation whatsoever from it and stay on the right side of the law. A reason most people would expect somebody to report child abuse material if they found it is because the authorities may well not be aware of it. A reason a lot of people would not expect the same level of reporting of Daesh videos is because (a)their illegality often depends on their usage and (b)if Joe Bloggs happens to see it then the authorities have almost certainly already seen it too.