Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-03-2018 10:47AM

prawnsambo wrote: »

That would normally result in a new trial.

A significant minority of mistrial in northern Ireland are not retried and another significant minority are retried over a year after the initial trial.

Dubinusa · 15-03-2018 11:44AM

Trial is still ongoing. Prosecution summing up it's case today.

launish116 · 15-03-2018 04:28PM

Season ticket holder meeting with Bryn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lF6kQVYp3ys&app=desktop.
Ulster A's also currently beating Munster's A

prawnsambo · 15-03-2018 04:47PM

Just posting this on thread for people who don't want to go on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF6kQVYp3ys

The Black Stags · 15-03-2018 05:47PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

Just posting this on thread for people who don't want to go on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF6kQVYp3ys

Must have edited out the bit where he talked about specific players. He did say 'extra bodies' at one point though.

Some Yoke · 15-03-2018 09:11PM

Pity AJ McGinty ain't IQ, could've been an option for Ulster

FACECUTTR · 15-03-2018 09:16PM

Some Yoke wrote: »

Pity AJ McGinty ain't IQ, could've been an option for Ulster

Just signed a 4 year contract with Sale and is out for the season with a knee injury.

Dubinusa · 15-03-2018 09:39PM

Next season. There will be 3 irish fly halves in the premiership. Mcginty, Madigan and Steenson. That is amazing.

Some Yoke · 15-03-2018 10:39PM

FACECUTTR wrote: »

Just signed a 4 year contract with Sale and is out for the season with a knee injury.

FACECUTTR not a facial injury, no?

FACECUTTR · 15-03-2018 10:49PM

Some Yoke wrote: »

FACECUTTR not a facial injury, no?

Shaving in the dark is not recommended lol.

joseywhales · 16-03-2018 12:27AM

So if Henderson wants to extend his central contract, is not playing regular champions cup rugby going to affect negotiations. It's amazing how difficult every little thing can get when you are losing.

Morale most be just destroyed and then staff openly critizing players, it doesn't just affect those individuals, you can develop a union mentality in the group against the management if you berate their friends publically. Furthermore I'm sure some of these players are just not talented enough, do they deserve abuse because weren't born with different gene's?

I always find it weird when supporters get angry with athletes. Most of the time they are not playing badly on purpose.

bilston · 16-03-2018 08:31AM

joseywhales wrote: »

So if Henderson wants to extend his central contract, is not playing regular champions cup rugby going to affect negotiations. It's amazing how difficult every little thing can get when you are losing.

Morale most be just destroyed and then staff openly critizing players, it doesn't just affect those individuals, you can develop a union mentality in the group against the management if you berate their friends publically. Furthermore I'm sure some of these players are just not talented enough, do they deserve abuse because weren't born with different gene's?

I always find it weird when supporters get angry with athletes. Most of the time they are not playing badly on purpose.

Henderson would be bonkers to give up his Ireland career because Ulster weren't in the Champions Cup for a season. I'd be more worried about the rumour that he's waiting to see how Ulster deal with his mates. But even that is just an unfounded rumour that I read from one or two posters on uafc where s**** talk is the new normal.

bilston · 16-03-2018 08:33AM

Ulster A beat Munster A 24-19 yesterday. Good win. Usually we get hammered in these games.

The 12 was a guy called Chris Swash. Anyone know anything about him? I've genuinely never heard of him.

awec · 16-03-2018 08:35AM

bilston wrote: »

Henderson would be bonkers to give up his Ireland career because Ulster weren't in the Champions Cup for a season. I'd be more worried about the rumour that he's waiting to see how Ulster deal with his mates. But even that is just an unfounded rumour that I read from one or two posters on uafc where s**** talk is the new normal.

There is no way that is true. Wouldn’t worry.

irishfan9 · 16-03-2018 08:42AM

bilston wrote: »

Ulster A beat Munster A 24-19 yesterday. Good win. Usually we get hammered in these games.

The 12 was a guy called Chris Swash. Anyone know anything about him? I've genuinely never heard of him.

Dunno how he ended up in ulster but he is 23 year old iq'd player from england playing for dungannon

shaungil · 16-03-2018 08:43AM

bilston wrote: »

Ulster A beat Munster A 24-19 yesterday. Good win. Usually we get hammered in these games.

The 12 was a guy called Chris Swash. Anyone know anything about him? I've genuinely never heard of him.

Please say he's a prop. Swash-buckling under pressure

prawnsambo · 16-03-2018 08:44AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Dunno how he ended up in ulster but he is 23 year old iq'd player from england playing for dungannon

Perhaps you could have phrased that better, but Dungannon is in Ulster.

Digifriendly · 16-03-2018 12:34PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

Perhaps you could have phrased that better, but Dungannon is in Ulster.

Just out on interest my late father was a Dungannon RFC supporter and told me he took me to see Dungannon play Italy when I was in short trousers, I think it was back sometime in the 1960s.

mfceiling · 16-03-2018 01:40PM

Digifriendly wrote: »

Just out on interest my late father was a Dungannon RFC supporter and told me he took me to see Dungannon play Italy when I was in short trousers, I think it was back sometime in the 1960s.

It's my local club. Played minis there years ago. They've really fallen off a cliff in the last number of years though.

Burkie1203 · 16-03-2018 02:13PM

https://twitter.com/Jamesonrugby/status/974588585427873792?s=19

The Lost Sheep · 16-03-2018 02:32PM

mfceiling wrote: »

It's my local club. Played minis there years ago. They've really fallen off a cliff in the last number of years though.

Really been poor past few seasons. Very gradual decline from mid table division 1 team 10 seasons ago to struggling in division 4 now. Wont be relegated to the bottom division though

Digifriendly · 16-03-2018 04:18PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Really been poor past few seasons. Very gradual decline from mid table division 1 team 10 seasons ago to struggling in division 4 now. Wont be relegated to the bottom division though

I, following in my Dad's tradition followed Dungannon for many years until 4 years ago when I gave up watching them because they had declined so much and were a pale shadow of earlier days. The 2000/20001 team that won the AIL had a backline that was the envy of many other clubs at the time. I guess crowds now at Stevenson Park are pretty thin but as you say they'll survive relegation to bottom tier of senior rugby this season.

awec · 16-03-2018 05:45PM

Wonder if there’s a correlation between the demise of Dungannon Rugby and the promotion of Dungannon Swifts to being a senior club in the Irish League.

Dungannon is still a rugby town probably but it now has a top tier football club in town as well that has quite a large youth section if I remember right ( I think the swifts and Dungannon United youth are linked?).

jacothelad · 16-03-2018 07:30PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Jamesonrugby/status/974588585427873792?s=19

Bryn Cunningham says he has never heard of him.

mfceiling · 16-03-2018 07:43PM

awec wrote: »

Wonder if there’s a correlation between the demise of Dungannon Rugby and the promotion of Dungannon Swifts to being a senior club in the Irish League.

Dungannon is still a rugby town probably but it now has a top tier football club in town as well that has quite a large youth section if I remember right ( I think the swifts and Dungannon United youth are linked?).

Swifts are gaining a lot of support alright. I have uncles and cousins who now watch them every week religiously.
Kids will always be drawn to soccer ball.
I wonder are parents nervous of the "physicality" of rugby and therefore aren't keen on their kids playing the game.
I also wonder what is the story with lads from the Royal School? Are they not prepared to tog out for dungannon anymore? Maybe they have other interests and prefer to study at the weekends.
Years (and I mean years) ago a lot of the lads in school played at a high level with dungannon and I'm fairly sure one or two got game time with Ulster.

Digifriendly · 16-03-2018 08:06PM

From what I gather less and less of those leaving school continue to play rugby and this is increasingly the case throughout Ulster. I'm unsure if this is happening in the other provinces.

The Lost Sheep · 16-03-2018 08:19PM

awec wrote: »

Wonder if there’s a correlation between the demise of Dungannon Rugby and the promotion of Dungannon Swifts to being a senior club in the Irish League.

Dungannon is still a rugby town probably but it now has a top tier football club in town as well that has quite a large youth section if I remember right ( I think the swifts and Dungannon United youth are linked?).

Could be a correlation but issue is where are club getting kids to play for them and how to attract those playing in school to continue playing.
They do field an under 14/16/18 side in leagues but follow on to adult level isnt great i dont think??

mfceiling wrote: »

Swifts are gaining a lot of support alright. I have uncles and cousins who now watch them every week religiously.
Kids will always be drawn to soccer ball.
I wonder are parents nervous of the "physicality" of rugby and therefore aren't keen on their kids playing the game.
I also wonder what is the story with lads from the Royal School? Are they not prepared to tog out for dungannon anymore? Maybe they have other interests and prefer to study at the weekends.
Years (and I mean years) ago a lot of the lads in school played at a high level with dungannon and I'm fairly sure one or two got game time with Ulster.

Possibly parents are nervous but that itnt necessarily affecting rugby that much. If in RS Dungannon can you play club rugby as well? You cant play both if in some schools so if in RSD you mightnt be allowed play youths rugby.

Digifriendly wrote: »

From what I gather less and less of those leaving school continue to play rugby and this is increasingly the case throughout Ulster. I'm unsure if this is happening in the other provinces.

Its happening in other provinces but this can change with complete changes to structure of club and schools competitions as well as whole structure of season for kids between 13-19 playing rugby.

The Lost Sheep · 16-03-2018 08:19PM

awec wrote: »

Wonder if there’s a correlation between the demise of Dungannon Rugby and the promotion of Dungannon Swifts to being a senior club in the Irish League.

Dungannon is still a rugby town probably but it now has a top tier football club in town as well that has quite a large youth section if I remember right ( I think the swifts and Dungannon United youth are linked?).

Could be a correlation but issue is where are club getting kids to play for them and how to attract those playing in school to continue playing.
They do field an under 14/16/18 side in leagues but follow on to adult level isnt great i dont think??

mfceiling wrote: »

Swifts are gaining a lot of support alright. I have uncles and cousins who now watch them every week religiously.
Kids will always be drawn to soccer ball.
I wonder are parents nervous of the "physicality" of rugby and therefore aren't keen on their kids playing the game.
I also wonder what is the story with lads from the Royal School? Are they not prepared to tog out for dungannon anymore? Maybe they have other interests and prefer to study at the weekends.
Years (and I mean years) ago a lot of the lads in school played at a high level with dungannon and I'm fairly sure one or two got game time with Ulster.

Possibly parents are nervous but that itnt necessarily affecting rugby that much. If in RS Dungannon can you play club rugby as well? You cant play both if in some schools so if in RSD you mightnt be allowed play youths rugby.

Digifriendly wrote: »

From what I gather less and less of those leaving school continue to play rugby and this is increasingly the case throughout Ulster. I'm unsure if this is happening in the other provinces.

Its happening in other provinces but this can change with complete changes to structure of club and schools competitions as well as whole structure of season for kids between 13-19 playing rugby.

stephen_n · 16-03-2018 08:20PM

jacothelad wrote: »

Bryn Cunningham says he has never heard of him.

Didn’t stop him signing VDM.

Scythica · 18-03-2018 05:39PM

Can we chuck as much money as possible towards getting leavy up here as well?

Nordi 6 Leavy 7 Coetzee 8 Deysel gone or to bench would be lovely

Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

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