Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

bilston

mfceiling wrote: »

A year in the challenge cup might be the boot in the hole they need.
Cunningham seems to be a great man for talking but results talk and bullshìt walks.

At least he has the balls to talk.

bilston

So Benetton are away to the Kings today and we are away to Cardiff. We have 46 points and Benetton 40.

That gives you an idea of how precarious the situation is!

It could be a one point ball game after today.

prawnsambo

bilston wrote: »

At least he has the balls to talk.

Is that not just slightly removed from talking through your hole?

thomond2006

bilston wrote: »

At least he has the balls to talk.

Which will achieve the square root of **** all.

MJohnston

bilston wrote: »

At least he has the balls to talk.

In fairness, I'm not sure you can call throwing players under the bus a brave move. His comments of late have struck me as rather cowardly

bilston

MJohnston wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

At least he has the balls to talk.

In fairness, I'm not sure you can call throwing players under the bus a brave move. His comments of late have struck me as rather cowardly

I just think sacking or forcing else out is the last thing we need. I know Ulster fans love a good sacking but just let him get on with it.

I don't have huge sympathy for guys lifting a significant wage and getting criticised for not performing anywhere close to the levels expected of them.

irishbucsfan

Sackings aren't that bad. I think we should sack the city of Belfast and build a copy of Dublin in its place

bilston

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Sackings aren't that bad. I think we should sack the city of Belfast and build a copy of Dublin in its place

A copy of the Leinster Academy is all we need for now

jacothelad

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Sackings aren't that bad. I think we should sack the city of Belfast and build a copy of Dublin in its place

There's enough crappy stuff already up here without flooding the place with more. :D

BTW.
Clarke's contract was up.
Doak's contract was up.
Kiss resigned.
Anscombe was dismissed with a paid up contract.
Mclaughlin was given a job for life at Ulster Rugby and HE resigned.
Williams was sacked.
McCall resigned.
Solly left at the end of his contract.

Probably not a lot different from other places. High turnover I expect.

Former Former

Are we really drawing a distinction between sacking a coach and not renewing his contract? Are we really saying Kiss "resigned"?

Come on lads.

Whatever is wrong at Ulster, Cunningham is very far down the list of causes.

bilston

Former Former wrote: »

Are we really drawing a distinction between sacking a coach and not renewing his contract? Are we really saying Kiss "resigned"?

Come on lads.

Whatever is wrong at Ulster, Cunningham is very far down the list of causes.

People clearly need someone to constantly blame...Doak has gone, Clarke has gone, Kiss has gone, Gibbes is going, Logan appears to be a lame duck...so obviously it's Cunningham's turn...

MJohnston

Cunningham and Logan are the only two constants through this whole shït heap of an era though. At some point you have to start looking at what the people appointing others are doing wrong.

Former Former

MJohnston wrote: »

Cunningham and Logan are the only two constants through this whole shït heap of an era though. At some point you have to start looking at what the people appointing others are doing wrong.

They're not the only constants.

MJohnston

Former Former wrote: »

They're not the only constants.

In positions of management, I mean.

jacothelad

MJohnston wrote: »

In positions of management, I mean.

They are influenced by others within the structure...the 'Blazers'...Cecil Watson for one.

stephen_n

jacothelad wrote: »

They are influenced by others within the structure...the 'Blazers'...Cecil Watson for one.

What is his position in the Ulster Branch? Do the Branch really have any influence on the professional setup apart from a free lunch?

The Lost Sheep

stephen_n wrote: »

What is his position in the Ulster Branch? Do the Branch really have any influence on the professional setup apart from a free lunch?

He's on the management committee and main branch committee which are main decision makers in areas of pro game as well as amateur

Former Former

BP win for Benetton in South Africa.

If Ulster lose tonight, could be a nervous few weeks

jacothelad

Former Former wrote: »

BP win for Benetton in South Africa.

If Ulster lose tonight, could be a nervous few weeks

If they lose to night they can relax as it is all over for the season.....:D:D:D

Results early (???) next week might be more important.

bilston

Former Former wrote: »

BP win for Benetton in South Africa.

If Ulster lose tonight, could be a nervous few weeks

Benetton's next game is at home to the Dragons which you'd fancy them get points from. Personally, unless Jackson returns for the last few games, then I think we're in serious trouble.

awec

Outstanding start Ulster. Brilliant stuff.

Clegg

Shambles

awec

I’d love to know what Peel brings to the table because we look clueless ball in hand every week.

stephen_n

awec wrote: »

I’d love to know what Peel brings to the table because we look clueless ball in hand every week.

Fairly clueless without it too.

Clegg

I've been spoiled by watching Ireland. Everything they do is so precise. Their clear outs are almost always perfect, defence comes up in a fast line to smother opposition, and their attack is built upon retaining possession and making steady progress up the field. Then players who are good at picking lines to attack and passers who can put them into gaps.

There's none of that with Ulster. Players neither come off the line fast nor spread out to create a proper drift, allowing Cardiff to get out wide and make metres. The attacking strategy seems to be give the ball to Henderson or Mc Closkey and hope they get over the gain line. If they don't do that it's hope Piutau does something magical from fullback.

That last passage of play sums it up quite well. The ball was given to Piutau who offloads behind the back to Stockdale who has four defenders in front of him. He runs directly at them and gets bundled into touch.

molloyjh

awec wrote: »

I’d love to know what Peel brings to the table because we look clueless ball in hand every week.

Without a pack it wouldn’t matter who your attack coach is. If opposition isn’t getting tied down anywhere then there’s not going to be any space out there.

Scythica

Can someone just give us a boot up the hole. It's embarrassing watching this.

Although a yellow card and no points against was good going

awec

Didn't want to be in the Champions Cup anyway.

Dubinusa

Jono Gibbes will destroy Waikato. He's shown nothing.

irishbucsfan

Dubinusa wrote: »

Jono Gibbes will destroy Waikato. He's shown nothing.

Nothing except 3 Heineken Cups at Leinster