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Cheltenham 2018 - Day 1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭kencoo


    Melon/my tenth forcast. Melons and my tenths cheltenham form the only reason. 16/1 and 25/1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,880 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Just 4 e/w bets for me

    1.30 Summerville boy

    2.50 Cogry

    4.50 Mossback

    5.30 Any second now, although i like the plotting shed to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭AdpRo


    MTOY out, Altior ok


  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭Blud


    As always with Cheltenham, there's too many horses to make a case for to go big on any of them. I'm spreading the net out with my bets, along there main strands, small stakes for the interest:

    Paul Nicholls horses - he runs 2 today, Vicente at 2.50 and Ibis du Rheu at 5.30. Small stakes ew on each, small double too.

    Super Heinz - the horses I think should win, while admittedly each are very vulnerable (hence small stake super heinz)
    1.30 Kalishnikov
    2.10 Footpad
    2.50 Shantou Flyer
    3.30 Buveur
    4.10 Apple's Jade
    4.50 Rathvinden
    5.30 Mr Whitaker

    Lastly, I've tried to find some value at higher odds, seems to be loads there in most races which is trouble in itself!
    1.30 Debuchet 5 places
    2.10 nothing here outside short odds
    2.50 each way on both Vintage Clouds and Knight of Noir
    3.30 each way on Identity Thief
    4.10 each way on Jers Girl
    4.50 each way on Pylonthepressure
    5.30 each way on Testify

    Good luck everyone, here's to a good week ahead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Elgin is rated 4lbs higher now than Buveur Dair was going into the CH last year. His profile isn't as sexy looking cause he's competed in very strong handicaps and has been improving all season. I'd give his jumping a 7 out of ten, jumps a bit right but well enough to compete. His two best RPR came on soft ground. He currently has 8lbs to find on official ratings with the favourite

    This doesn't look reflected in the prices

    Elgin | 20/1 | 4.8%
    Buveur Dair | 4/6 | 60%

    20/1 is enough for me


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,072 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Paloma Blue
    Footpad
    Faugheen
    La bag au roi
    Testify

    15c ew L31

    Getabird
    Footpad
    Gold present
    Faugheen
    Benie Des deux
    Ms Parfois
    Mr Whitaker

    10c super heinz ew.

    Good luck everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    I'd be inclined to take BD on too. I'm not sure he's beaten much in in his career and that's why I said many months ago that if Faugheen comes back at 70% of his old abilities he'd beat him.

    But I'm not sure he's back to that at all. But Faugheen is out to a very backable price..

    I'm going for a Wicklow Brave win in the CH. He'd have been a lot closer last year but for the start. Not sure about the ground though, think he'd have wanted it better tbh but will go at the price.

    Edit: Faugheen back into 11/2. Am I mad or did I see 7s somewhere?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭thelostboys23


    Debuchet ew
    Gold Present win
    Footpad, beauver d'air, apples jade in a small treble.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Didactic Ninja


    Elgin flying under the radar


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Went with the following for today.

    Sharjah AP
    Saint Calvados AP
    Midnight Tour w/on fav (Caught my eye, Aidan confirmed)
    Faugheen
    Coo Star Sivola
    Rathvinden

    Best of luck to everyone.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    Few AP Bets done ages ago for today

    €5 ew on

    Supreme
    Getabird 16s
    Western Ryder 20s
    Slate House 33s
    Paloma Blue 20s


  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Mr321


    Paloma Blue
    Footpad
    Beware the bear
    Faugheen
    Apples Jade (gers girl w/o fav)
    Ms Parfaois
    Livelaughlove

    Best of luck lads


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Here are my bets today. Some are ap, hence the prices.
    Dont have time for a write up, off to get my hair cut and have a big durrrty fry before a few pints :D

    1.30 - Debuchet 28s e/w

    2.10 - No bet e/w :) (but if PM keeps drifting i might play if he goes 4/1 or 9/2)

    2.50 - cannot for the life of me find an angle im happy with in this race. If the ground was better probably Minella Dady, so might have a small e/w on him for an interest.

    3.30 - Wicklow Brave 14s win

    4.10 - Kayf Grace 25s e/w. But i think La Bague Au Roi is a cracking e/w bet for anyone stuck on the fence.

    4.50 - Rathvinden 12s. Got in this fella a few weeks after they said he could go the 4 mile route.

    5.30 - Any Second Now 12s. One of my bets of the week and delighted to see the money come.

    Stay safe and good luck if anyone follows (dont) :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Here are my bets today. Some are ap, hence the prices.
    Dont have time for a write up, off to get my hair cut and have a big durrrty fry before a few pints :D

    1.30 - Debuchet 28s e/w

    2.10 - No bet e/w :) (but if PM keeps drifting i might play if he goes 4/1 or 9/2)

    2.50 - cannot for the life of me find an angle im happy with in this race. If the ground was better probably Minella Dady, so might have a small e/w on him for an interest.

    3.30 - Wicklow Brave 14s win

    4.10 - Kayf Grace 25s e/w. But i think La Bague Au Roi is a cracking e/w bet for anyone stuck on the fence.

    4.50 - Rathvinden 12s. Got in this fella a few weeks after they said he could go the 4 mile route.

    5.30 - Any Second Now 12s. One of my bets of the week and delighted to see the money come.

    Stay safe and good luck if anyone follows (dont) :)

    Haven't been keeping up with horses lately and urs is the latest post so I'm on these - good luck us!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    So many different angles covered but I'll try to summise.

    Acc to cover the 4 of AJ, Footpad, Getabird and BD. Mug bet I suppose but my angle is that these 4 have already proven they can handle the conditions and are genuinely worthy favs. Theirs to lose as far as I can see.

    Mengli Khan and Debuchet backed ew.

    Wakanda backed ew.

    Faugheen and PM covered in a Yankee with 2 of the 4 I backed in acc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 525 ✭✭✭irish_major


    The aftertiming going on in this thread before a race has even been ran :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭convert


    I know the tensions are clearly rising, but please don't insult other users in your posts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    My bets for reference later on win they all bolt up...

    1.30 Slate house e/w and Mengli Khan win
    2.10 Footpad and Footpad to win by 5 lengths or more at 5/2
    2.50 Shantou Flyer e/w
    3.30 On Faugheen already antepost at **** prices. Starting to believe again.
    4.10 Apples Jade is the banker of the festival if you ask me. Also Jers girl e/w without apples.
    4.50 Rahtviden e/w
    5.30 Any Second Now


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭gooseygander


    Have to say I had a strong fancy that Mengli Khan if at horses best has a major role to play, drift in betting is starting to worry me a bit but surely 16 to 1 is a great each way shout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭collie0708


    Best of luck everyone hopefully a great days racing ahead. Below are my selections

    1:30-Summerville boy
    2:10-Footpad
    2:50-Coo star sivola
    3:30/ 4:10-Buveur D’air/ apples jade (double)
    4:50-Ms Parfois
    5:30-Mister Whitaker


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭tinpib


    130pm Mengli Khan 11.0, [nice price]
    210pm Petit Mouchoir 4.5, [nice price]
    250pm Yala Enki 13.0, [loves the ground]
    330pm Faugheen 6.5, [finally looks appealing at that price]
    410pm Jer's Girl 13.0, [good price, hope for a place at least]
    450pm Ms Parfois 7.5. [loves the ground]

    e/w Heinz.

    All enhanced place prices, taking the extra place where possible. That's my realistic way to untold riches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭supremenovice


    Ive done an outsiders Lucky 31 e/w

    1330 - Western Ryder - 33/1
    1450 - Vic de Touzaine - 40/1
    1530 - Elgin - 16/1
    1610 - Midnight Tour - 66/1
    1650 - Shades of Midnight 16/1

    Think Ill go in on Elgin and Saint Calvados to win too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭deiseman17


    1:30 Mengli Khan EW - Great price
    14.10 Footpad - Hard to look past.
    14.50 Vintage Clouds - Stays well and loves testing ground.
    17.30 Mr Whitaker - Loves soft ground and has won on this ground last month in Cheltenham. I think its the trainers only horse of the festival, could be wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Here is to a great day, and week of racing. Good luck everyone.

    Have all of these in various bets across the week;


    1:30 - Getabird
    2:10 - Footpad
    2:50 -
    3:30 - Beuvair D'Air
    3:30 - Wicklow Brave e/w
    4:10 - Apples jade
    4:50 - Rathvinden
    5:30 -


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Quite like Ballyhill today in the last. 22s e/w. Also conrad hastings is way overpriced at 150 in the same. About 20s to place


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    My day selections

    Let's hope they all return safely

    Mengli Khan ew
    Petit Mouchoir
    Singlefarmpayment
    Wicklow brave ew
    La bague au roi w/o
    Jury Duty
    Mr Whitaker

    BOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭3putt


    Bets for the day

    Kalashnikov-5/1- 13:30

    Melon-18/1- 15:30

    TREB:
    Footpad
    Buveur Dair
    Apples Jade


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭akelly02


    done a Lucky 15 of :

    Getabird
    Footpad
    Faugheen W/O BD @ 2/1
    shantou flyer


    Also a 20 accum

    footpad
    Apples jade
    samcro
    alttior pays €200


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,275 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    He’s beat footpad every time he has raced against him over hurdles, and the last day he wasn’t at his fittest they always said he would come on for it as he had some setback since his debut chase win, he also hit the second fence very hard which would usually show in the latter part of the race yet he closed on footpad near finish without either horse getting whipped it has to be said.
    He also usually front runs but the last day he let footpad do it and I would be surprised if he didn’t jump off in front of footpad today
    Saint calvedos also want to front run so I would imagine footpad would sit in behind the other 2.

    I think footpad had everything in his favour last time but could only beat petit mouchoir 5 lengths,surely he can’t be a banker with improvement always likely to come from PM who had already proved in his career to be better than footpad over hurdles.
    If petit mouchoir gos off in front of footpad only a fall will stop him finishing ahead of him IMO

    Means nothing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    My Bets for Day 1
    Summerhill Boy 8s 2.5ptwin/ Debachut 1pt ew 33s
    Vintage Clouds 9s 2 ptwin/Beware the bear 1 pt win/ Yala Enki 1 pt ew
    Faugheen. 3 pt ew 13/2. 3 pt Win Antepost at 11/4
    Midnight Tour W/O fav 40s 1 pt ew
    Rathvinden 7s 3 pt win
    Any Second Now 13/2 2pt win, Typhoon Prince 1 pt

    Best of Luck all.


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