Vacant sites / buildings in city..

Zipppy wrote: »

I also see lots of demolition on Dominick St along luas line.old Michael H factory and others being levelled..wonder what's going in..

Both the Michael H site and the old Arnotts warehouse further up are going to be Purpose built student accommodation

Talk is the Hendron building and site will go the same way

Zipppy wrote: »

More student accommodation? Ah here...

Every 4-6 beds in student accommodation releases a "normal" property back to "normal" rental. We have an abject shortage of dedicated student accommodation (proper facilities, fast net, sometimes on the college network, appropriate lease lengths) etc in a city with so many educational institutions. Even 6 beds of student accom doesn't take up much more space than a 2 bed apartment.

Accomodation of all types is not a zero sum game. More hotel rooms and particular aparthotel rooms damages the AirBnB market which will release houses/apartments to proper rentals; more social housing removes people from emergency accom which increases hotel rooms available which (see above)....

Luckily the vacant site levy is on the way soon so hopefully it will mean building gets going on wasted sites around the city
https://www.rte.ie/news/budget-2018/2017/1010/911250-vacant-site-levy-to-more-than-double-to-7/

The vacant site levy is to be more than doubled, rising from the current 3% rate that applies in the first year to 7% for the second and subsequent years.

The measure, announced in Budget 2018, will mean that any owner of a vacant site on the register who does not develop their land in 2018 will pay the 3% levy in 2019 and then become liable to the increased rate of 7% from 1 January 2019.

If land owners continue to hoard land in 2019, they will pay 7% in 2020, resulting in an effective vacant site levy of 10% over the two years.

These new rules will serve to get things moving or else land hoarders are going to see their assets losing value. Selling land with an annual 7% levy will mean the next owner will want to be getting building straight away.

Yes agreed but the forthcoming vacant site levy should make a difference and at the very worst Revenue will be taking income off any developer who is hoarding sites. A developer who does not build by 2021 will have to pay Revenue 17% of the site value. It is a significant sum of money and it should concentrate minds. Plus it seems to be solid legislation- even the Law Society have a derelict site on Benburb St worth 5.2m and they challenged the vacant site levy recently. DCC had earmarked it as unused land and also as suitable for housing and therefore listed it on the Register of Vacant Sites. The Law Society appealed the listing of their land and tried to convince An Bord Plenala that the site was not in a ruinous or neglected condition. Their appeal was rejected and they face levies from Jan 2019 onwards.

So with any hope other developers will see how the Law Society failed in their bid to be removed from the Vacant Site Register and either get building or get selling.

The register can be seen here. http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/Planning/Documents/VacantSitesRegister.pdf
If you click into the reference number on each listing it will bring you to a map with the site clearly shown

JupiterKid wrote: »

The fact that there are derelict/vacant sites on O’Connell St, our national main urban thoroughfare, should be a source of deep shame.

I presume you are thinking the old Carlton cinema and surrounds? That site is the developer Joe OReilly and has been added to the vacant sites register. IIRC he got a 10 year extension to planning permission sometime around 2010 but he still has not built on it, possibly using the court case on Moore Street as an excuse not to. Map of the site here http://www.dublincity.ie/LocationPublisher/default.aspx?topicname=Planning&Featureid=VS-0098

BeerNut wrote: »

Nope. Nobody does, by the looks of things. Here's The Inquirer's enquiry on it a couple of years ago.

That site has been added to the register here http://www.dublincity.ie/LocationPublisher/default.aspx?topicname=Planning&Featureid=VS-0113 Gosram Properties Ltd are listed as the owner

Another one on the register is Aldi owning a site near Premier Square in Finglas, I guess they are planning a supermarket there and them being added to the Vacant Sites Register should speed that up. The register also shows large parcels of land in Ashtown & Royal Canal Park as well as the vacant John Players site on South Circular Road.

Theres a plan for it

Oakmount Construction

I like the black brick. Quite refreshing really

But yeh it looks absolutely dreadful the way it is and combined with the derelict social housing and the kind of ruin-y looking bernard shaw the whole street looks a wreck

NyOmnishambles wrote: »

I would hope so
I only found out recently how old it is, I had always assumed it was built in more modern times, it is a big site so I wouldn't be surprised to see something done there though

How old is it? It looks like early modern to me like 1920's or 30's

1946 according to this

All that's protected on that end of Dominick Street is a few houses and Cumiskey's pub

Most of these *are* communal units - they're bedrooms with ensuites and otherwise shared facilities. They usually have a small number of fully self contained for those who specifically want that

Families dislike living beside student rentals. Proper student accommodation will free up family homes elsewhere nearby

delta_bravo wrote: »

Had a skim of that register. I'm very suprised the vacant building that lies at the junction of Townsend St and Lombard Street isn't there. It has been in ruins for over 10 years

Only speculating but it might be to do with the size of it. To be included in that register a site must exceed 0.05 of a hectare.