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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • #9782
    thehorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭thehorse


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    What was the issue out of interest?

    There was a missing length of fibre cable that hadn’t been laid. About 800m in total.


  • #9783
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Hey lads and ladies, eir vans now around Bweeng in North Co.Cork for this rural rollout.

    We are just outside where they are showing on the map where there will be covering but we have noticed Eir have been looking at the pole's outside our house too. Is there any examples of where Eir have gone further then the marked areas on their map?


  • #9784
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Hey lads and ladies, eir vans now around Bweeng in North Co.Cork for this rural rollout.

    We are just outside where they are showing on the map where there will be covering but we have noticed Eir have been looking at the pole's outside our house too. Is there any examples of where Eir have gone further then the marked areas on their map?

    it's happened for the rollout in Ratoath and Athboy and I'm sure some other places as well. In some cases they have extended by 3 or 4 houses where it makes sense to or if there is an error on the map.


  • #9785
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Gonzo wrote: »
    it's happened for the rollout in Ratoath and Athboy and I'm sure some other places as well. In some cases they have extended by 3 or 4 houses where it makes sense to or if there is an error on the map.
    This is the exact situation with us, there are 4 houses grouped together but it would mean about 720m of extra cabling along the poles... we are thinking that 700 odd meter's might be too much though... between us and the village (about 3.6km away) they have only marked in the 9 houses to be hooked up.


  • #9786
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    irishfeen wrote: »
    This is the exact situation with us, there are 4 houses grouped together but it would mean about 720m of extra cabling along the poles... we are thinking that 700 odd meter's might be too much though... between us and the village (about 3.6km away) they have only marked in the 9 houses to be hooked up.

    I've seen it extended about 250m for one home so you may have a chance. Have they marked the poles in any way do you know?


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  • #9787
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    I've seen it extended about 250m for one home so you may have a chance. Have they marked the poles in any way do you know?
    Have no idea but I will take a look, my father seen them last Saturday pulled up outside the house looking at the poles, that evening he also seen them driving slowly past in the van looking at the poles/lines.


  • #9788
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    a good initial sign would be maybe blue paint marked on a pole or some letters painted into the road nearby.

    asking the crew can often yield no results. When the rollout first started in my area, i was unsure and asked was this the start of the fibre rollout and he just laughed and said my area had no chance of ever getting fibre. A few weeks later when KN were working on the ducting I asked again was this for the rural rollout and the guys said they hadn't a clue what it was for, that they were just contracted to do ducting.


  • #9789
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Gonzo wrote: »
    a good initial sign would be maybe blue paint marked on a pole or some letters painted into the road nearby.

    asking the crew can often yield no results. When the rollout first started in my area, i was unsure and asked was this the start of the fibre rollout and he just laughed and said my area had no chance of ever getting fibre. A few weeks later when KN were working on the ducting I asked again was this for the rural rollout and the guys said they hadn't a clue what it was for, that they were just contracted to do ducting.
    I must take a look tomorrow and see if I can see something - here's hoping! ... From Dial Up to fibre would be the stuff of dreams from Eir :)


  • #9790
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Have no idea but I will take a look, my father seen them last Saturday pulled up outside the house looking at the poles, that evening he also seen them driving slowly past in the van looking at the poles/lines.

    I just had a look at the map there. Bweeng has no core fibre as far as I can see. Are you located on the road to Mallow? If so unfortunately it may be possible that they were checking the route for the core fibre to Bweeng. The fact it was an eir (Openeir) van may support this.


  • #9791
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    I just had a look at the map there. Bweeng has no core fibre as far as I can see. Are you located on the road to Mallow? If so unfortunately it may be possible that they were checking the route for the core fibre to Bweeng. The fact it was an eir (Openeir) van may support this.
    Yep, on the Mallow road - I would have presumed they would run the core from Donoughmore but you probably are right and they will run it from Dromahane.

    I presume though that if they are using the poles for the core network that we would still might have a chance as they could do the 2 in the one go perhaps?


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  • #9792
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Yep, on the Mallow road - I would have presumed they would run the core from Donoughmore but you probably are right and they will run it from Dromahane.

    I presume though that if they are using the poles for the core network that we would still might have a chance as they could do the 2 in the one go perhaps?

    My own guess would be that they would not do the two jobs at once but I could be wrong. KN usually do the access fibre. I don't know if they are involved with the core.


  • #9793
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    My own guess would be that they would not do the two jobs at once but I could be wrong. KN usually do the access fibre. I don't know if they are involved with the core.
    We won't be long finding out! :) here's hoping!


  • #9794
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Yep, on the Mallow road - I would have presumed they would run the core from Donoughmore but you probably are right and they will run it from Dromahane.

    I presume though that if they are using the poles for the core network that we would still might have a chance as they could do the 2 in the one go perhaps?

    You were right. I just checked and Bweeng is due to be fed from Blarney which I presume would be through Donoughmore.


  • #9795
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    You were right. I just checked and Bweeng is due to be fed from Blarney which I presume would be through Donoughmore.
    The only real reason I had always thought it would come from the south (Blarney/Donoughmore) is because we are among the very last houses in the 021 Cork area code.

    There must have been a reason Bweeng historically was not linked to Mallow town via Dromahane. I do know from talking to my father that this area took absolutely ages to get a phone line in the first place.


  • #9796
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    I got the letter from eir saying that my bundle was going up by €6 per month. After the 12 months the 300Mb with calls will be €89. I reckon I'll be switching to a broadband only package with another supplier after the year is up.


  • #9797
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    I got the letter from eir saying that my bundle was going up by €6 per month. After the 12 months the 300Mb with calls will be €89. I reckon I'll be switching to a broadband only package with another supplier after the year is up.

    my 12 months is up in April, seriously considering switching to Digiweb in May now that Vodafone and Sky may never be available on the network. I may even enquire about Digiweb's fair usage policy to see if there is any movement on increasing it during 2018.


  • #9798
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,104 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    I got the letter from eir saying that my bundle was going up by €6 per month. After the 12 months the 300Mb with calls will be €89. I reckon I'll be switching to a broadband only package with another supplier after the year is up.

    VM even after the promotion is only 64 a month (for 360mb). That's some markup by eir but they all seem to be doing it after the promo period.
    Cannot see why it costs so much more with eir et al for basically the same service


  • #9799
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    The letters, I've seen, state that you can break contract before a certain date because they are raising the price, disregardless when your contract is up originally.

    That should be the case anyhow.

    /M


  • #9800
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Marlow wrote: »
    The letters, I've seen, state that you can break contract before a certain date because they are raising the price, disregardless when your contract is up originally.

    That should be the case anyhow.

    /M

    I could break it alright but I'd lose the €100 that they gave me (in credit) for breaking my Imagine contract. Plus it is still "only" €69 per month for the remaining nine months.


  • #9801
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    fritzelly wrote: »
    VM even after the promotion is only 64 a month (for 360mb). That's some markup by eir but they all seem to be doing it after the promo period.
    Cannot see why it costs so much more with eir et al for basically the same service

    It makes no sense. Especially with their fair use policy and charge for going over.

    The reason is more likely, that they're now desperate for recouping the 300-500 EUR they forked out with free installation and buy-out from other providers (per customer).

    That cost is the reason, that all other providers can't/won't offer free installation .. if it's a new OpenEIR connection.

    /M


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  • #9802
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    I could break it alright but I'd lose the €100 that they gave me (in credit) for breaking my Imagine contract. Plus it is still "only" €69 per month for the remaining nine months.

    Oh .. they do recoup the credit, if you exit early ? Cheeky.

    /M


  • #9803
    thehorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭thehorse


    Marlow wrote: »
    The letters, I've seen, state that you can break contract before a certain date because they are raising the price, disregardless when your contract is up originally.

    That should be the case anyhow.

    /M

    Yeah, I got a letter from eir too about the price hike. I can cancel the contract at no cost but now that fibre is only a few weeks away, I’ll stay put.

    Is it true that only eir can sell FTTH ?.....they say that only Eir can sell the 150/300/1000mb packages


  • #9804
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Marlow wrote: »
    Oh .. they do recoup the credit, if you exit early ? Cheeky.

    /M

    Yeah it is in the T&C's.


  • #9805
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,104 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Marlow wrote: »
    It makes no sense. Especially with their fair use policy and charge for going over.

    The reason is more likely, that they're now desperate for recouping the 300-500 EUR they forked out with free installation and buy-out from other providers (per customer).

    That cost is the reason, that all other providers can't/won't offer free installation .. if it's a new OpenEIR connection.

    /M

    You're the man in the know...
    How does it work if eir pay for the installation and year later you change providers? Is it tough luck eir you paid for the installation and the new company you move to gets your business with no outlay on their part?


  • #9806
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    thehorse wrote: »
    Yeah, I got a letter from eir too about the price hike. I can cancel the contract at no cost but now that fibre is only a few weeks away, I’ll stay put.

    Is it true that only eir can sell FTTH ?.....they say that only Eir can sell the 150/300/1000mb packages

    No. 8 providers with the FTTH icon on OpenEIR sell FTTH on http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    Saying that only Eir can sell FTTH would be an outright lie !

    /M


  • #9807
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,104 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Marlow wrote: »
    Oh .. they do recoup the credit, if you exit early ? Cheeky.

    /M

    Not really - you are exiting the contract early, would be the same for any company


  • #9808
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    thehorse wrote: »
    Yeah, I got a letter from eir too about the price hike. I can cancel the contract at no cost but now that fibre is only a few weeks away, I’ll stay put.

    Is it true that only eir can sell FTTH ?.....they say that only Eir can sell the 150/300/1000mb packages

    Who says that? Is it in the letter from eir?


  • #9809
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    thehorse wrote: »
    Yeah, I got a letter from eir too about the price hike. I can cancel the contract at no cost but now that fibre is only a few weeks away, I’ll stay put.

    Is it true that only eir can sell FTTH ?.....they say that only Eir can sell the 150/300/1000mb packages

    No. Other suppliers can sell it. You'd need to do some sums to work out which of them are cheapest for the first year. eir probably are still cheapest though for the first 12 months.

    http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/ (green home icons)


  • #9810
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,104 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Marlow wrote: »
    No. 8 providers with the FTTH icon on OpenEIR sell FTTH on http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    Saying that only Eir can sell FTTH would be an outright lie !

    /M

    Probably getting confused with the fact that in some areas there are no other providers offering it


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  • #9811
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    No!!, other suppliers can sell it.

    Correct that for you :)

    /M


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