Eir rural FTTH thread

fritzelly

Who's telling him that he's within 5 poles? Does he now have it?

ED E

NeoRox wrote: »

Sickened. Exchange going live where I live on the 7th according to map, 1gb ftth. I live 450/500 yards from the exchange and they put my area on the NBP. A house 30 yards from my place will be getting ftth and and the nbp starts then. Madness.

Are you sure thats not rural 300K? Normally the first 3-5km from each exchange is commercial.

NeoRox

ED E wrote: »

Are you sure thats not rural 300K? Normally the first 3-5km from each exchange is commercial.

Yep I'm sure. Contacted the nbp through government site, contacted TD who sprouted the line eir gave him to be straight from one of their press releases. No joy unless something changes.

fritzelly

ED E wrote: »

Are you sure thats not rural 300K? Normally the first 3-5km from each exchange is commercial.

Depends which direction you are going

ED E

fritzelly wrote: »

Depends which direction you are going

Indeed but it would be quite unusual for somewhere within 500m to not be commercial in any direction unless they're already over 30Mb with eVDSL or eVDSL is pending.

NeoRox wrote: »

Yep I'm sure. Contacted the nbp through government site, contacted TD who sprouted the line eir gave him to be straight from one of their press releases. No joy unless something changes.

Are you currently ADSL only? Big enough village for a 200 port VDSL rack?

mikeecho

My local exchange was upgraded, and the immediate locality has FTC, the surrounding area (me) is/was due to get FTH.

Yet, I haven't seen any KN vans around lately, and I haven't seen any fiber being hung on poles.

This latest news doesn't bode well.

Grab All Association

mikeecho wrote: »

My local exchange was upgraded, and the immediate locality has FTC, the surrounding area (me) is/was due to get FTH.

Yet, I haven't seen any KN vans around lately, and I haven't seen any fiber being hung on poles.

This latest news doesn't bode well.

You probably won’t see then for a while. They’re extremely busy. Nbp withdrawal has nothing to do with rural 300k.

mikeecho

Grab All Association wrote: »

You probably won’t see then for a while. They’re extremely busy. Nbp withdrawal has nothing to do with rural 300k.

Excuse my ignorance, but how do I know if I'm R3K or NMP ?

Grab All Association

mikeecho wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but how do I know if I'm R3K or NMP ?

Fibrerollout.ie enter your eircode or check the map. Broadband.gov.ie will also tell you if your commercial 300k or NBP

mikeecho

Grab All Association wrote: »

Fibrerollout.ie enter your eircode or check the map. Broadband.gov.ie will also tell you if your commercial 300k or NBP

Eircode XYZ123 is in the LIGHT BLUE AREA
Your premises is in the commercial planned deployment area that will be covered on a commercial basis. For further information on rollout in your area go to http://fibrerollout.ie/


Ok.. good news for me

AidenL

NeoRox wrote: »

Sickened. Exchange going live where I live on the 7th according to map, 1gb ftth. I live 450/500 yards from the exchange and they put my area on the NBP. A house 30 yards from my place will be getting ftth and and the nbp starts then. Madness.

Same boat here, rural rollout passing my door, but I’m in the NBP. House next door will be connected.

mcquaim

fritzelly wrote: »

Who's telling him that he's within 5 poles? Does he now have it?

He rang Eir apparently and the stance now is that if you’re within 5 poles from where it’s available you can order it.

He has ordered it but the fibre still has to be ran on the poles down to his house. When this will happen I’m not sure and now with Eir pulling out of the rural Broadband plan I’m sure he’s sweating that he’ll still get it..

AidenL

ED E wrote: »

Are you sure thats not rural 300K? Normally the first 3-5km from each exchange is commercial.

NeoRox wrote: »

Yep I'm sure. Contacted the nbp through government site, contacted TD who sprouted the line eir gave him to be straight from one of their press releases. No joy unless something changes.

ED E wrote: »

Indeed but it would be quite unusual for somewhere within 500m to not be commercial in any direction unless they're already over 30Mb with eVDSL or eVDSL is pending.

Are you currently ADSL only? Big enough village for a 200 port VDSL rack?

@Ed E might be something like my own situation, where the 300 rollout starts next door to me, yet I'm not connected to a cabinet either, and I fell into the NBP, as did all the other houses on the side of the road. Some of these houses are barely 5m from where the new fibre will be run past their door.

It hardly makes sense to not connect them on the way past, unless they were awaiting a subsidy. Yet these homes are supposedly "Hard to reach?"

The whole town seems to have a strange setup - lots of homes being bypassed, right next door to poles passing by to go further out.

I guess now if air are passing the door, and they aren't counting on receiving subsidies for those homes, as they are so easy to connect, they could hoover them up, and leave less easy ones fore net down the line also, and have a two year head start on call charges.

Bummer1234

Hi guys,

Sorry for the simple question here but Fibre is going past my house and expected to go live on the 7th Feb, There is a black box on the pole left and right on the road(around 65 meters either way), Years ago we had eircom but cancelled it so have a copper wire going into the house still.

When we request eir to install fibre into our house. Will it be new fibre wire going directly with the old copper wire into the house or will the copper wire just connect directly to the fibre on the road?

Just want to get a grasp of what price i could be paying if im looking at FTTH or FTTC.

tsue921i8wljb3

Bummer1234 wrote: »

Hi guys,

Sorry for the simple question here but Fibre is going past my house and expected to go live on the 7th Feb, There is a black box on the pole left and right on the road(around 65 meters either way), Years ago we had eircom but cancelled it so have a copper wire going into the house still.

When we request eir to install fibre into our house. Will it be new fibre wire going directly with the old copper wire into the house or will the copper wire just connect directly to the fibre on the road?

Just want to get a grasp of what price i could be paying if im looking at FTTH or FTTC.

It is FTTH so a new cable in to your home. They will leave the current copper cable but it plays no part.

As of today the cheapest bundle eir are offering is 150Mb / 30mb with unlimited National, Mobile and UK calls @ €45 for 6 months then €50 for 6 months on a 12 month contract. Then it goes to €81 after 12 months so you may want to switch after 12 months.

Marlow

Geevagh, Co. Sligo.

/M

ED E

AidenL wrote: »

@Ed E might be something like my own situation, where the 300 rollout starts next door to me, yet I'm not connected to a cabinet either, and I fell into the NBP, as did all the other houses on the side of the road. Some of these houses are barely 5m from where the new fibre will be run past their door.

It hardly makes sense to not connect them on the way past, unless they were awaiting a subsidy. Yet these homes are supposedly "Hard to reach?"

The whole town seems to have a strange setup - lots of homes being bypassed, right next door to poles passing by to go further out.

I guess now if air are passing the door, and they aren't counting on receiving subsidies for those homes, as they are so easy to connect, they could hoover them up, and leave less easy ones fore net down the line also, and have a two year head start on call charges.

Looks normal to me? 3 VDSL DSLAMS cover the core, FTTH covers the long range, NBP covers the ultra long range. Your individual home might be a bit of a blip.

Cyrus

hi all, hope its ok to post here from sunny dalkey, but anyway just had our Eir FTTH installed, 300mb line.

i have some (stupid im sure) questions.

I dont want to use the modem as my wireless router.

I have the connection for Eir coming into a comms cabinet in my utility, so plan is:

plug it into the modem, plug modem into a switch, distribute over cat 6 to 3 unifi APs around the house / garden, login to the modem and disable the wireless broadcasting.

does that sound sensible, i presume i cant ditch the modem totally?

shigllgetcha

AidenL wrote: »

@Ed E might be something like my own situation, where the 300 rollout starts next door to me, yet I'm not connected to a cabinet either, and I fell into the NBP, as did all the other houses on the side of the road. Some of these houses are barely 5m from where the new fibre will be run past their door.

I live up the road



Could it be your distance from the road that made them leave you out?

tsue921i8wljb3

Cyrus wrote: »

hi all, hope its ok to post here from sunny dalkey, but anyway just had our Eir FTTH installed, 300mb line.

i have some (stupid im sure) questions.

I dont want to use the modem as my wireless router.

I have the connection for Eir coming into a comms cabinet in my utility, so plan is:

plug it into the modem, plug modem into a switch, distribute over cat 6 to 3 unifi APs around the house / garden, login to the modem and disable the wireless broadcasting.

does that sound sensible, i presume i cant ditch the modem totally?

If by modem you mean the Huawei F2000 then what you suggest should work fine. You could replace the F2000 with another router if you wished but there is no need to in your case.

AidenL

shigllgetcha wrote: »

I live up the road



Could it be your distance from the road that made them leave you out?

I don't think so, as all the other houses closer to town are left out also?

AidenL

ED E wrote: »

Looks normal to me? 3 VDSL DSLAMS cover the core, FTTH covers the long range, NBP covers the ultra long range. Your individual home might be a bit of a blip.

I have 7 megs down at the 2km range, but 75% of the houses back towards town on that road aren't even connected by FFTC? Any reason why all the houses within the 2m range isn't on the cabinet, or the 300k rural rollout though? Wouldn't it be normal to connect all houses, not just mine, in between the markets to FFTH? Yet its only from the junction where the roads split, outwards which is getting FFTH. I cant comprehend why the 20ish houses in the middle aren't getting FFTH.

Its an oddball one alright it seems, not the norm?

KellyXX

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

If by modem you mean the Huawei F2000 then what you suggest should work fine. You could replace the F2000 with another router if you wished but there is no need to in your case.

What realistic wireless speed can you get from that router? If you were not connecting via lan what would be the max speed package you should get?

shigllgetcha

AidenL wrote: »

I don't think so, as all the other houses closer to town are left out also?

They probably get FTTC, I dont think people on FTTC are getting FTTH. I think FTTC is limited to 1.5km from the cabinet and thats just about where you are from the cabinet at assaroe view.

Cyrus

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

If by modem you mean the Huawei F2000 then what you suggest should work fine. You could replace the F2000 with another router if you wished but there is no need to in your case.

would replacing it with something like this:

a) work
and

b) be of any tangible benefit?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-Edgerouter-ERLITE-3-Desktop-Router/dp/B00HXT8EKE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=cupcre-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1487198915&sr=8-1&keywords=edgerouter

AidenL

shigllgetcha wrote: »

They probably get FTTC so they dont get FTTH. I think FTTC is limited to 1.5km from the cabinet and thats just about where you are from the cabinet at assaroe view.

I stalked a few of the neighbours phone numbers who live closer to town a while back, and I think they aren't on the cabinet though? This was 4 months or so ago, maybe they are now.

When I check my number I get the usual fibre is in your area but you haven't been enabled yet. I knew I was at the outer limits. My house literally seems to have fallen between the cracks of the plans !

shigllgetcha

AidenL wrote: »

I stalked a few of the neighbours phone numbers who live closer to town a while back, and I think they aren't on the cabinet though? This was 4 months or so ago, maybe they are now.

Yeh you see when I check mine I dont get that so it looks like you are hypothetically in the FTTC

Broadband with speed up to 5Mb/s is available at your address. Broadband is available from the following service providers listed here.

Great news! Your premises is on open eir’s rural fibre rollout programme offering speed of between 30Mb/s and 1000Mb/s. We estimate fibre service will be live in your area during the first half of 2018.

Fibre to the Home is not currently available at this address We checked F94 XXXX.Not your eircode? Start again

AidenL wrote: »

When I check my number I get the usual fibre is in your area but you haven't been enabled yet. I knew I was at the outer limits. My house literally seems to have fallen between the cracks of the plans !

Yeh I guess you just have to hope that when they start connecting people they include you when they realise how close you are to the next house and connect you up.

AidenL

shigllgetcha wrote: »

Yeh I guess you just have to hope that when they start connecting people they include you when they realise how close you are to the next house

Its a fingers crossed situation yep.

tsue921i8wljb3

Cyrus wrote: »

would replacing it with something like this:

a) work
and

b) be of any tangible benefit?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-Edgerouter-ERLITE-3-Desktop-Router/dp/B00HXT8EKE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=cupcre-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1487198915&sr=8-1&keywords=edgerouter

a) Yes it will work.

b) It depends on how interested you are in networking really. The Edgerouter would allow you much more granular control of your network. There might be a bit of a learning curve involved though.

https://m.geekzone.co.nz/Forums/66/Topic/205740

is a setup guide that should be applicable to our FTTH connections.

Cyrus

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

a) Yes it will work.

b) It depends on how interested you are in networking really. The Edgerouter would allow you much more granular control of your network. There might be a bit of a learning curve involved though.

https://m.geekzone.co.nz/Forums/66/Topic/205740

is a setup guide that should be applicable to our FTTH connections.

thanks a lot, so basically i would plug the ethernet cable directly into this and discard the eir modem completely? and work from there...