Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

sunrainmooncl · 04-02-2018 10:59PM

plastic bag man is a joke

Reati · 05-02-2018 11:19AM

sunrainmooncl wrote: »

plastic bag man is a joke

He is, in fact he has said that about himself loads...

Stonedpilot · 05-02-2018 06:19PM

Blindboy called the gospel 'fiction' on Tommy Tiernan. My problem with this is millions the World over have said Sanctification from Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be freed of that emptiness of depression and addiction. It does not matter one jot what what your opinion is of Christ but it has helped millions, just like at the ten's of thousands of testimonies online. It's helped them so much. Many people have personally told me.
What gives him authority to insult Christ?. For someone who is about raising awareness on mental health he is astonishingly biased and ignorant. He will point blank ignore ANYONE who states divine intervention or sanctification from Christ in helping them. Blinkered beyond belief.

Why does he feel the need to attack Christ by saying the Gospels are fiction?. It's not his place.

It's astonishing anyone can listen to him. If he had balls he'd listen to folk who have been helped by God. He's too proud, full of himself and ignorant to do so.

Here's former East End Enforcer, Gangster and Drug Dealer John Pridmore on finding Christ.

pitifulgod · 05-02-2018 06:35PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Blindboy called the gospel 'fiction' on Tommy Tiernan. My problem with this is millions the World over have said Sanctification from Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be freed of that emptiness of depression and addiction. It does not matter one jot what what your opinion is of Christ but it has helped millions, just like at the ten's of thousands of testimonies online. It's helped them so much. Many people have personally told me.
What gives him authority to insult Christ?. For someone who is about raising awareness on mental health he is astonishingly biased and ignorant. He will point blank ignore ANYONE who states divine intervention or sanctification from Christ in helping them. Blinkered beyond belief.

Why does he feel the need to attack Christ by saying the Gospels are fiction?. It's not his place.

It's astonishing anyone can listen to him. If he had balls he'd listen to folk who have been helped by God. He's too proud, full of himself and ignorant to do so.

Here's former East End Enforcer, Gangster and Drug Dealer John Pridmore on finding Christ.

Many people view them as fiction, if your faith is so fragile that is more a problem of your faith rather than a reason to be outraged at somebody for expressing a view that's rather innocent.

Stonedpilot · 05-02-2018 06:43PM

pitifulgod wrote: »

Many people view them as fiction, if your faith is so fragile that is more a problem of your faith rather than a reason to be outraged at somebody for expressing a view that's rather innocent.

Not outraged amazed moreso. You'd think a guy who is into "helping" LOL those with mental health issues would listen to what has helped millions; from their own testimony and experience no less. :rolleyes:
Just a thought eh!.

It's very easy to see Blindboy is another Bressie type, A RTE paid pied piper for the ignorant and vacuous millennial generation.

The Moldy Gowl · 05-02-2018 06:57PM

Because it is fiction.
Far more dangerous putting your faith in some higher power rather than putting faith in yourself.

You get the same outcome but without adding to the misery of the Catholic church.

snotboogie · 05-02-2018 07:05PM

Raven Rancid Slime wrote: »

It's like giving an intelligent rebuttal to chemtrail and lizard man conspiracy theories.
I cannot give an intelligent rebuttal to the notion that many influential people are in fact shape shifting lizards. It's just obviously a paranoid fantasy. Kinda like the idea that Western thinkers are all secret Communists trying to subvert civilization.

He doesn't say that though does he? He asserts that Marxists are vastly overrepresented in North American academia and conservatives are vastly underrepresented, which is true: https://www.academia.org/self-identifying-marxist-professors-outnumber-conservatives-as-college-professors/

He is extremely weak on religion though, I wanted to pull my ears out after listing to 10 minutes of his verbal and mental gymnastics on the topic on Sam Harris' podcast

GerryDerpy · 05-02-2018 07:08PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Blindboy called the gospel 'fiction' on Tommy Tiernan. My problem with this is millions the World over have said Sanctification from Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be freed of that emptiness of depression and addiction. It does not matter one jot what what your opinion is of Christ but it has helped millions, just like at the ten's of thousands of testimonies online. It's helped them so much. Many people have personally told me.
What gives him authority to insult Christ?. For someone who is about raising awareness on mental health he is astonishingly biased and ignorant. He will point blank ignore ANYONE who states divine intervention or sanctification from Christ in helping them. Blinkered beyond belief.

Why does he feel the need to attack Christ by saying the Gospels are fiction?. It's not his place.

It's astonishing anyone can listen to him. If he had balls he'd listen to folk who have been helped by God. He's too proud, full of himself and ignorant to do so.

Here's former East End Enforcer, Gangster and Drug Dealer John Pridmore on finding Christ.

We all kinda know that God isn’t real though...

Stonedpilot · 05-02-2018 07:10PM

The Moldy Gowl wrote: »

Because it is fiction.
Far more dangerous putting your faith in some higher power rather than putting faith in yourself.

You get the same outcome but without adding to the misery of the Catholic church.

Like I said each to their own and what they think but the countless testimonies from people are there to be seen on God's help in this world.

Erm sorry did I mention the Catholic Church???. No.

Anyone who has felt God's presence certainly wouldn't bother with the Catholic Church. In fact in Matthew 23 Jesus condemned religion and religious teachers as such!.

It's crazy to think Catholic Church = God.

That's basically sheer naivety and or extreme ignorance. :rolleyes:

GerryDerpy · 05-02-2018 07:12PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Like I said each to their own and what they think but the countless testimonies from people are there to be seen on God's help in this world.

Erm sorry did I mention the Catholic Church???. No.

Anyone who has felt God's presence certainly wouldn't bother with the Catholic Church. In fact in Matthew 23 Jesus condemned religion and religious teachers as such!.

It's crazy to think Catholic Church = God.

That's basically sheer naivety and or extreme ignorance. :rolleyes:

Where abouts did you feel His presence?

Baggly · 05-02-2018 07:13PM

Stonedpilot wrote:

Anyone who has felt God's presence certainly wouldn't bother with the Catholic Church. In fact in Matthew 23 Jesus condemned religion and religious teachers as such!.

I hear blindboy cites his own book to back up his points as well.

Stonedpilot · 05-02-2018 07:17PM

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Where abouts did you feel His presence?

You mean the first time or now?.

How specific ya want?. Geographic coordinates?. :cool:

s7ryf3925pivug · 05-02-2018 07:22PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Blindboy called the gospel 'fiction' on Tommy Tiernan. My problem with this is millions the World over have said Sanctification from Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be freed of that emptiness of depression and addiction. It does not matter one jot what what your opinion is of Christ but it has helped millions, just like at the ten's of thousands of testimonies online. It's helped them so much. Many people have personally told me.
What gives him authority to insult Christ?. For someone who is about raising awareness on mental health he is astonishingly biased and ignorant. He will point blank ignore ANYONE who states divine intervention or sanctification from Christ in helping them. Blinkered beyond belief.

Why does he feel the need to attack Christ by saying the Gospels are fiction?. It's not his place.

It's astonishing anyone can listen to him. If he had balls he'd listen to folk who have been helped by God. He's too proud, full of himself and ignorant to do so.

Here's former East End Enforcer, Gangster and Drug Dealer John Pridmore on finding Christ.

Here's a fun experiment I heard the other day: While talking about Jesus, replace the word Lord with Overlord. These are interchangeable terms so the meaning of what you say is not changed.

Another less fun experiment is to chat to people experiencing severe psychiatric episodes. The amount they talk about god and the devil can be striking. Often they are being punished, or perceive some sort of spiritual war. These ideas may lead to violence against themselves or others.

Religious conviction is frequently an aggravating factor in psychosis. It actively discourages critical, ordered thinking about religious topics and encourages fantastical ideas, so this is where the delusions manifest.

Insight into their condition is often vital for recovery so this sort of blindspot in their critical thinking can be grievously harmful.

The Moldy Gowl · 05-02-2018 07:33PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Like I said each to their own and what they think but the countless testimonies from people are there to be seen on God's help in this world.

Erm sorry did I mention the Catholic Church???. No.

Anyone who has felt God's presence certainly wouldn't bother with the Catholic Church. In fact in Matthew 23 Jesus condemned religion and religious teachers as such!.

It's crazy to think Catholic Church = God.

That's basically sheer naivety and or extreme ignorance. :rolleyes:

Sure aren't they gods representatives on earth?
God isn't real, believe all you want and that's grand but no young man or woman would turn to god as a salvation. When you mention god, everyone associates that with Christianity, which is a poison.

Prayer/meditation is good as it gives you time to be with yourself and deal with stuff that way.
It's basically what bb is saying but without putting yourself at the mercy of god, you are putting yourself at the mercy of you.

In that case I'm off to set up a less hurt, more yurt cult. Let me know when you feel my yurt and their devine intervention.

Colonel Claptrap · 05-02-2018 07:36PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Blindboy called the gospel 'fiction' on Tommy Tiernan. My problem with this is millions the World over have said Sanctification from Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be freed of that emptiness of depression and addiction. It does not matter one jot what what your opinion is of Christ but it has helped millions, just like at the ten's of thousands of testimonies online. It's helped them so much. Many people have personally told me.
What gives him authority to insult Christ?. For someone who is about raising awareness on mental health he is astonishingly biased and ignorant.

You ignore that millions of lives have been harmed rather than 'healed' by this belief. Depression, addiction and mental illness pale in comparison to the atrocities carried in Jesus Christ's name.

Weigh it up. Do you think the world would have been better or worse if the gospel never proliferated?

Stonedpilot · 05-02-2018 07:54PM

The Moldy Gowl wrote: »

Sure aren't they gods representatives on earth?
God isn't real, believe all you want and that's grand but no young man or woman would turn to god as a salvation. When you mention god, everyone associates that with Christianity, which is a poison.

Prayer/meditation is good as it gives you time to be with yourself and deal with stuff that way.
It's basically what bb is saying but without putting yourself at the mercy of god, you are putting yourself at the mercy of you.

In that case I'm off to set up a less hurt, more yurt cult. Let me know when you feel my yurt and their devine intervention.

They most certainly aren't where you get your information from?.

Where you read that, certainly not in the Bible lad!.

You think God isn't real that's fine knock yourself out. I use to be atheist till I reached the age of reason.

JohnnyFlash · 05-02-2018 07:59PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

They most certainly aren't where you get your information from?.

Where you read that, certainly not in the Bible lad!.

You think God isn't real that's fine knock yourself out. I use to be atheist till I reached the age of reason.

No harm in believing in god if it makes you happy. Did you reach this insight after partaking in shedloads Of mind altering substances???

Danjamin1 · 05-02-2018 08:00PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

They most certainly aren't where you get your information from?.

Where you read that, certainly not in the Bible lad!.

You think God isn't real that's fine knock yourself out. I use to be atheist till I reached the age of reason.

That sounds interesting as you usually hear it going the other way, spiritual until reaching the age of reason. Was it a particular incident that caused you to develop spiritually? Happened to my dad, was never very spiritual but developed a bit of faith in later life.

The Moldy Gowl · 05-02-2018 08:06PM

Stonedpilot wrote: »

They most certainly aren't where you get your information from?.

Where you read that, certainly not in the Bible lad!.

You think God isn't real that's fine knock yourself out. I use to be atheist till I reached the age of reason.

You mean the age of condescending?

Sorry you are right, the pope is his representative on earth right?
Priests and bishops must be his little helpers? Or what's the correct terminology?

Cienciano · 05-02-2018 08:54PM

One of my top 3 podcasts at the moment. I don't agree with everything he says. Some people seem to think if you're not agreeing with him 100% you can't listen, the podcast is shíte and blindboy is a charlatan. As for mental health issues, he always says everyone is different and different shít works for everyone. Yee caaauuunnnts

Franz Von Peppercorn · 05-02-2018 09:31PM

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

You ignore that millions of lives have been harmed rather than 'healed' by this belief. Depression, addiction and mental illness pale in comparison to the atrocities carried in Jesus Christ's name.

Weigh it up. Do you think the world would have been better or worse if the gospel never proliferated?

Western civilisation would be very different, probably non existent.

s7ryf3925pivug · 05-02-2018 10:48PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Western civilisation would be very different, probably non existent.

Classical and Hellenistic periods of Ancient Greece. 500-146 BC. No Christianity

Roman Republic. 510-27 BC. No Christianity.

Roman Empire. 27 BC-476AD. Christianity emerges. Most importantly it is adapted as the official religion of the empire during the fourth century, establishing it as the main religion in western civilization today.

Dark Ages. 476-1500AD. Lots of Christianity. Everything is horrible. Civilization and technology that flourished in the aforementioned periods regress terribly.

Renaissance. 1300-1700 AD. People study Ancient Greece and Rome and make huge progress societally, scientifically and culturally. Leads to the modern age. Emergence of humanism. Still lots of Christianity to do things like kill Galileo. Reformation and counter reformation make the Catholic Church less horrific and corrupt.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 06-02-2018 12:03AM

Raven Rancid Slime wrote: »

Classical and Hellenistic periods of Ancient Greece. 500-146 BC. No Christianity

Roman Republic. 510-27 BC. No Christianity.

Roman Empire. 27 BC-476AD. Christianity emerges. Most importantly it is adapted as the official religion of the empire during the fourth century, establishing it as the main religion in western civilization today.

Dark Ages. 476-1500AD. Lots of Christianity. Everything is horrible. Civilization and technology that flourished in the aforementioned periods regress terribly.

Renaissance. 1300-1700 AD. People study Ancient Greece and Rome and make huge progress societally, scientifically and culturally. Leads to the modern age. Emergence of humanism. Still lots of Christianity to do things like kill Galileo. Reformation and counter rueformation make the Catholic Church less horrific and corrupt.

That’s history for half wits. The dark ages was a time of Christian retrenchment, for instance attacks by vikings and other illiterate pagan groups like the Anglo Saxon invasion of Britain.

Europe becomes more civilised during the early Middle Ages as it Christianises. Literacy improves and universities were founded.

The renaissance (which didn’t start in 1300 but did start in catholic countries a bit later) and the reformation were both Christian events happening within Christianity. Christianity had to be there for either to happen as both required literacy.

And nobody killed Gallelio.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 06-02-2018 12:52AM

Danjamin1 wrote: »

That sounds interesting as you usually hear it going the other way, spiritual until reaching the age of reason. Was it a particular incident that caused you to develop spiritually? Happened to my dad, was never very spiritual but developed a bit of faith in later life.

I think he was a literal stoned pilot. A few near death experiences later he found god.

s7ryf3925pivug · 06-02-2018 01:48AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

That’s history for half wits. The dark ages was a time of Christian retrenchment, for instance attacks by vikings and other illiterate pagan groups like the Anglo Saxon invasion of Britain.

Europe becomes more civilised during the early Middle Ages as it Christianises. Literacy improves and universities were founded.

The renaissance (which didn’t start in 1300 but did start in catholic countries a bit later) and the reformation were both Christian events happening within Christianity. Christianity had to be there for either to happen as both required literacy.

And nobody killed Gallelio.

Checking it, I see he was house arrest for last nine years of his life and threatened with torture if he didn’t withdraw his heretical observations that the earth is not the center of the universe, because that contradicts Christian scripture. All his writings were banned, with a preemptive blanket ban on anything he ever would write.

My recoollection had been that they made him drink poison. Must have confused that with someone else. Silly me - I see they just locked him up for all his life for contradicting a line in the Bible, which you apparently think is groovy.

The Vikings were able to raid because they were technologically advanced. Not sure why you think monasteries were somehow superior to naval pioneers that reached the Americas well before Columbus. As Orwell pointed out, you only get the luxury of pacifism if you have guys with weapons somewhere to protect you. Anglo saxons were not illiterate.

06-02-2018 01:51AM

Who's to say the Earth isn't at the center of the universe?..

s7ryf3925pivug · 06-02-2018 02:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Who's to say the Earth isn't at the center of the universe?..

Actually I think the contradiction was that the scripture said Earth doesn’t move while Galileo said it travels around the sun.

Otherwise, not going to bother responding to the silly contention or joke or whatever it is.

Realt Dearg Sec · 06-02-2018 02:21AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Raven Rancid Slime wrote: »

Classical and Hellenistic periods of Ancient Greece. 500-146 BC. No Christianity

Roman Republic. 510-27 BC. No Christianity.

Roman Empire. 27 BC-476AD. Christianity emerges. Most importantly it is adapted as the official religion of the empire during the fourth century, establishing it as the main religion in western civilization today.

Dark Ages. 476-1500AD. Lots of Christianity. Everything is horrible. Civilization and technology that flourished in the aforementioned periods regress terribly.

Renaissance. 1300-1700 AD. People study Ancient Greece and Rome and make huge progress societally, scientifically and culturally. Leads to the modern age. Emergence of humanism. Still lots of Christianity to do things like kill Galileo. Reformation and counter rueformation make the Catholic Church less horrific and corrupt.

That’s history for half wits. The dark ages was a time of Christian retrenchment, for instance attacks by vikings and other illiterate pagan groups like the Anglo Saxon invasion of Britain.

Europe becomes more civilised during the early Middle Ages as it Christianises. Literacy improves and universities were founded.

The renaissance (which didn’t start in 1300 but did start in catholic countries a bit later) and the reformation were both Christian events happening within Christianity. Christianity had to be there for either to happen as both required literacy.

And nobody killed Gallelio.

Neither of you have the first fcuking clue about history.

s7ryf3925pivug · 06-02-2018 02:50AM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Neither of you have the first fcuking clue about history.

My post is a mixture of Wikipedia content and what I remember from a long time ago in school. Not an expert but AFAIK it’s all correct. Do you care to contribute something more interesting than random abuse?

Realt Dearg Sec · 06-02-2018 06:29AM

Raven Rancid Slime wrote: »

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Neither of you have the first fcuking clue about history.

My post is a mixture of Wikipedia content and what I remember from a long time ago in school. Not an expert but AFAIK it’s all correct. Do you care to contribute something more interesting than random abuse?

Saying that everything is horrible in the Dark ages (or referring to it as the dark ages at all) is not all correct. History is a complex discipline, and making any kind of assertion about even a small part of it requires careful deliberation and even more careful qualification of any evaluation of its significance. Both of you are making huge, massively inaccurate and grating generalisations about multiple centuries and vast swathes of the Earth, boiling them all down to a sentence or two that have nothing to do with history and everything to do with half baked agendas to do with religion. It's insulting to everyone's intelligence.

Quite clearly the so-called dark ages were an era of massive flourishing of scholarship and art in many parts of Europe, usually led by the church. The notion that it wasn't is complete nonsense. Franz's history is, to be fair to you, even more nonsensical. Describing Vikings as illiterate, and ascribing all civilising tendencies (whatever way that's defined, but doesn't have much to do with the actual behavior of Christian leaders towards fellow human beings) to the influence of Christianity, is beyond insulting.

As the saying goes, you can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts. Work away having pops at each other about religion or whatever floats your boat, but don't call this agenda-pedaling and ill-informed bickering "history".

Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

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