Any one got a solution.

mariaalice wrote: »

Maybe this should be in the accommodation forum I don't know.

Reading the response to the latest government initiative to help those who are on a lower income but not low enough to qualify for social housing.

What would be the solutions in large urban areas that would not interfere with the property market.

http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/Housing/table_with_2016_income_limits.pdf

So approximately the limits are 35k for a single applicant and 42k for a family applicants to be eligible for social housing.

If long term renting is not an option how should long term secure housing be provided.

For a single applicant who is say 40 and earning 30k a year.

A family with a combined income of 40k

Applicants who are in precarious employment.

Loan parents who's ex partner cant or wont support their children but the loan parent does not qualify for social housing.

How can someone borrow a parent?

blanch152 wrote: »

There is only so much land within a short commute of Dublin City Centre, yet we have more and more people wanting to live on that land.

Three solutions possible:

(1) The first solution is high-rise, high-density housing. The problem is Dublin City Council and their refusal to be realistic in planning for this. So many opportunities for development have been wasted over the last 5-6 years by the gob****es on that council.

There is more than enough land within a short distance of Dublin City Centre to solve the housing supply issue; the Government continue to allow it to sit unused at little cost, thereby incentivising land hoarding.

(2) Shorten commute time through reducing commuter time. The problem here is the number of actors. Dublin City Council again, with their focus on bicycles rather than public transport and pedestrians thanks to the Dublin City Manager, Irish Rail for being so inefficient that LUAS now carry more passengers, the Government for the lack of investment in public transport infrastructure other than LUAS (but when you see the mess that CIE and Dublin City Council are, you might guess why they don't bother), and the NTA for the lack of a single coherent plan and sticking to it.

Bizarre phrasing. There should always be a focus on cycling in Dublin city. There should not be a choice between cycling and public transport; if anything, there should be a choice between cars and public transport.

Khalid Dirty Juror wrote: »

Rent?

For that you need a functional rental market which isn't the case in urban Ireland and supply is too little for the ones that can't afford to rent in the cities.

The solutions aren't difficult - it's getting politicians to implement the actual solutions that's difficult - our predicament is down to the deliberate choices of people in power, to keep things this way - and to worsen them.

Massive public spending on housing construction - not on subsidies to the private market - is the only solution, and always has been.

I'd go so far to say, that as a nation there should be a large political push, for the bulk of private housing development to be based upon housing co-operatives, with ample public support for their construction (on a strictly not-for-profit basis) - and away from the current template of over-reliance on private development, where the goal is to maximize profits at the expense of societies ability to sustainably pay for accommodation - as the latter is historically one of the leading sources of corruption of our society, politics and economy (going back at least half a century).


If we don't permanently wrest the lions share of control of the property market, away from people who would use that market to exploit all of us, then we are never going to be rid of this problem - we'll see this problem deliberately come up again and again and again, over the span of decades - pretty much forever.

#makeportlaoisegreatagain

Ruben Stale Taffy wrote: »

Ha! You'd have some job trying to sort out the rampant heroin problem in portlaoise

No social housing should be given in prime locations. Why should people who can and would pay for accommodation near work and where work is be forced to commute hours so shardin and the baybee can be housed around the corner from her ma

might not be PC but its a very valid point.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Plenty of cheaper houses outside of the main cities. Let people get over their sense of entitlement.

Which entitled people are these? Those who want to be able to buy within the city in which they work or those who want free accommodation within the city in which they dont work?

The solutions are simple. The politicians though obviously don’t want to sort the issues. One of the main issues is apartment construction costs. I’m currently in a 40 sq m apartment. It’s more than adequate, up until recently, dcc said a one bed had to have55 sq m. Parking for every apartment (bloody expensive if underground) dual aspect, massive lift ratio. Effectively meaning the prices are going to be way out of reach of even average income earners. So change what I have outlined, which costs nothing and there will be a big increase in supply. My preferred option though, as developers will build more but still sell it for the highest price that they can achieve, which is understandable. Is for state owned land, let the government develop it. They get a developer in to build it, won’t need a massive margin as there is no risk with state as client. That is how you make housing affordable ... this does two things. It means the developer hasn’t had to pay a fortune for land and the government can then also sell for little or no profit, if they are actually interested in offering affordable housing...