Eir rural FTTH thread

shigllgetcha · 31-01-2018 04:06PM

turbbo wrote: »

Wow so SR just steals news from the independent - interesting - or did Eir just ring all the news outlets to tell them that they were thinking about pulling out?.

SR is more like a news aggregator.

Danny Boy · 31-01-2018 04:27PM

What now for the 300k - will they finish it?

Gonzo · 31-01-2018 04:29PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

What now for the 300k - will they finish it?

They kinda have to finish the areas started. As for areas with not a spade in the ground, who knows.

I really didn't see this coming tho, I thought Eir were really gunning to win the whole NBP.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 31-01-2018 04:36PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

What now for the 300k - will they finish it?

In my own opinion I don't believe that they will. I think many of the areas planned were predicated on them receiving subsidies from the Government in the form of the NBP. That is obviously now off the table.

turbbo · 31-01-2018 04:39PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

In my own opinion I don't believe that they will. I think many of the areas planned were predicated on them receiving subsidies from the Government in the form of the NBP. That is obviously now off the table.

In fairness they hadn't a snowballs chance of finishing the 300k by eoy 2018 anyways, that was obvious after a few months of publishing the plan.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 31-01-2018 04:55PM

https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/958729116160806912

Johnboy1951 · 31-01-2018 05:03PM

Gonzo wrote: »

They kinda have to finish the areas started. As for areas with not a spade in the ground, who knows.

I really didn't see this coming tho, I thought Eir were really gunning to win the whole NBP.

Nor I ....... the new owners were the change I did not see coming, and their 'about face' on the rural roll out.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 31-01-2018 05:06PM

There is also the possibility that take-up for the service in areas where they have deployed has not been what they expected so they have decided to cut their losses as it were. This is just speculation on my part though.

oscarBravo · 31-01-2018 05:08PM

I guess we can take the whole "we want to build a better relationship with government and regulators" rhetoric from the new owners as nothing more than hot air, so.

oscarBravo · 31-01-2018 05:10PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

There is also the possibility that take-up for the service in areas where they have deployed has not been what they expected so they have decided to cut their losses as it were. This is just speculation on my part though.

From what I've seen, uptake in rural FTTH areas is dramatically higher than urban. Urban users don't see any particular advantage in moving from VDSL.

Gonzo · 31-01-2018 05:16PM

oscarBravo wrote: »

From what I've seen, uptake in rural FTTH areas is dramatically higher than urban. Urban users don't see any particular advantage in moving from VDSL.

uptake has been great in my area so far. The options are 55 a month for 150 /30 FTTH or 45-55 for 2 to 8 meg DSL and similar pricing for wireless dongles. I've even seen some of the senior households (70+) swap their DSL over to FTTH. The only homes not switched over at this stage are homes who just don't really use the internet for much. Nearly all homes with a family and kids have both the copper and fibre wires running side by side from pole to roof.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 31-01-2018 05:16PM

oscarBravo wrote: »

From what I've seen, uptake in rural FTTH areas is dramatically higher than urban. Urban users don't see any particular advantage in moving from VDSL.

I would have expected that but yet they seem to be convinced that ROI is greater in urban areas.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 31-01-2018 05:18PM

Some good news hopefully.

https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/958734611470802944

Mr Velo · 31-01-2018 05:19PM

Beaten to it

turbbo · 31-01-2018 05:32PM

Thank goodness - gonna crack open a beer this evening!

shigllgetcha · 31-01-2018 05:38PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Some good news hopefully.

https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/958734611470802944

Thank Christ, poles being replaced in my area this week, I think Id cry if I got this close and it was pulled

KOR101 · 31-01-2018 06:07PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

In my own opinion I don't believe that they will. I think many of the areas planned were predicated on them receiving subsidies from the Government in the form of the NBP. That is obviously now off the table.

The problem with that is that the map would revert back to something close to the original map, Eir would have formally renounced commercial ambitions in those areas, and the Government would be fully entitled to ask SIRO back in.

digiman · 31-01-2018 06:10PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Some good news hopefully.

https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/958734611470802944

I wouldn’t put much faith in that and that’s no disrespect meant to Adrian Weckler either.

turbbo · 31-01-2018 06:11PM

KOR101 wrote: »

The problem with that is that the map would revert back to something close to the original map, Eir would have formally renounced commercial ambitions in those areas, and the Government would be fully entitled to ask SIRO back in.

Eir have confirmed they are completing the 300k.

turbbo · 31-01-2018 06:12PM

digiman wrote: »

I wouldn’t put much faith in that and that’s no disrespect meant to Adrian Weckler either.

I suppose it remains to be seen - however it's still better to hear that than "we're not completing the 300k"
Don't forget the 300k are the low hanging fruit.

Gonzo · 31-01-2018 06:13PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Some good news hopefully.

https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/958734611470802944

I think Eir themselves should make a statement about their withdraw from the NBP and also state if they really are going to finish every home in the 300k rollout.

ninja 12 · 31-01-2018 06:23PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

What now for the 300k - will they finish it?

Gonzo wrote: »

They kinda have to finish the areas started. As for areas with not a spade in the ground, who knows.

I really didn't see this coming tho, I thought Eir were really gunning to win the whole NBP.

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

In my own opinion I don't believe that they will. I think many of the areas planned were predicated on them receiving subsidies from the Government in the form of the NBP. That is obviously now off the table.

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Some good news hopefully.

https://twitter.com/adrianweckler/status/958734611470802944

turbbo wrote: »

Eir have confirmed they are completing the 300k.

Gonzo wrote: »

I think Eir themselves should make a statement about their withdraw from the NBP and also state if they really are going to finish every home in the 300k rollout.

Apologies for the multi-quotes

My exchange is down for "the first half of 2018 " on the Rural exchange timeline , and "Spring / Summer " on the roll out maps .

I emailed openeir the other day and they replied saying I should have fibre available in June .

It's tantalizingly close , I'll be keeping an even closer eye on this thread ( and keeping my fingers crossed )

They replaced a load of poles in my area about 6 months ago and were recently checking the top of others / clearing some ivy / branches

tsue921i8wljb3 · 31-01-2018 07:21PM

eir statement here claims they are committed to completing the 300k project.

https://www.eir.ie/pressroom/eir-Withdraws-from-NBP/

eir also remains fully committed to completing the rollout of high speed broadband in rural Ireland through the commitment contract it signed with the Government in April 2017 to deliver speeds of up to 1,000Mb/s to 300,000 rural homes and businesses. Upon completion, 80% of premises in Ireland will have access to high speed broadband.

ninja 12 · 31-01-2018 07:27PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

eir statement here claims they are committed to completing the 300k project.

https://www.eir.ie/pressroom/eir-Withdraws-from-NBP/

It's good to hear but I'm still not going to uncross my fingers until I've got a fibre cable coming from the pole outside my house and a fibre router installed

fritzelly · 31-01-2018 07:48PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/new-law-to-slash-rural-broadband-plan-costs-36537412.html

Didn't take long from this announcement
Wonder what eNet are thinkingp

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rob808 · 31-01-2018 08:25PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

eir statement here claims they are committed to completing the 300k project.

https://www.eir.ie/pressroom/eir-Withdraws-from-NBP/

That good new feel bad for the poor people stuck waiting on NBP stuck in limbo not knowing when they get fast broadband and which technology enet going to use.

NeoRox · 01-02-2018 12:17AM

Sickened. Exchange going live where I live on the 7th according to map, 1gb ftth. I live 450/500 yards from the exchange and they put my area on the NBP. A house 30 yards from my place will be getting ftth and and the nbp starts then. Madness.

Grab All Association · 01-02-2018 12:57AM

KeRbDoG wrote: »

This is already being discussed on the 'NBP: National Broadband Plan Announced' thread but, I'd hope that with Eir maybe dropping out they might look at the plan again and others will be interested like ESB/Siro - but for the love of jasus don't allow 'wireless solutions'

Siro will not go next or near the NBS. Eircom took out those 300k premises for a reason. It was to retain their monopoly. They have none in urban areas. ESB has the infrastructure (ie electricity poles) to bring broadband to every house in the country.

Which would you rather be with?

A communications company that sells broadband to elders that don’t even have a computer, takes days to weeks to repair faults, falling rotted (mostly 40+ year telegraph) poles and rude condescending customer service agents, overcharging customer and having to fight them for weeks to a refund

Or

A state owned company that has gone out in all weathers to reconnect it’s customers ASAP. That constantly upgrades it infrastructure (poles etc) trims trees, has excellent polite customer service agents (although I assume Vodafone would be covering this area, never had problems with their CS)

mcquaim · 01-02-2018 01:12AM

A cousin of mine lives near the village of Glaslough in north Monaghan.

Although FTTH was laid all around them his Road wasn’t on the rollout plan.

When he rang up about the possibility of getting it they initially said that it’s not a possibility and it would be taken care of in the NBP.

Recently they inquired again and this time the response has changed. Now the stance is that because he’s within 5 poles of where the fibre has been ran he is eligible and can order it.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with Eir pulling out of the NBP or why the change of heart..

Has anyone else been advised this?

My girlfriends folks gaff is in a similar situation, about 300 metres from where the fibre is due to stop so I must get them to inquire also.

Eir rural FTTH thread

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