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    #6902
    9935452
    Registered Users Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭9935452


    Reggie. wrote: »
    The Nutty M wrote: »
    What width tyres have you on it?
    Must go in and get this girl weighed for the craic.

    The tractor or the missus :D

    Id say the valtra ain't far off 8 ton

    Contractors down the road had a case mx 270 back in the day . They said she weighed 9.5 ton unladen.
    For the tractor pulling they said they got her up near 19 ton.


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    #6903
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    9935452 wrote: »
    Contractors down the road had a case mx 270 back in the day . They said she weighed 9.5 ton unladen.
    For the tractor pulling they said they got her up near 19 ton.

    I’d an Mx 270 years ago and I doubt it weighed 9.5 ton....scrap usually doesn’t weigh well, and it was a bag of sh...


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    #6904
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    More or less got to grips with this T6, have to say it makes a change from an MF50b with no roof and brakes on one side only. Also it has lights! - I can now throw away the head torch and shoot the bulbs out of the few remaining lights in the yard.

    Particularly pleased with the loader although the electronic controls take a bit of getting used to, mainly cos the 3rd service is shared with the crowd / tilt (didn't think to get the extra live 3 valve option at the time..)

    Very comfortable on the road and a really quiet cab IMO which is a big relief as it will do an hour on the road for a good chunk of the year. I stuck with the 40K box and I don't believe it will make a lot of difference to the journey time.

    Do any of you tractor lovers know how to get the memory shuttle thing in the New Holland Electrocommand to work?.. the thing which remembers one gear in forward and the other in reverse? The manual goes in to some detail but I must be missing something....

    And what is the story with loader soft ride & front axle suspension? Should they both be locked out for yard work?

    Must also get a ball hitch for the link arms as the draw bar is too high set to take one.


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    #6905
    Muckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    kowtow wrote: »
    Must also get a ball hitch for the link arms as the draw bar is too high set to take one.

    Need to do the same. Even from convenience point of view it's a pain taking out hook and shoving in clevis drawbar. A few seconds and you'd have 3 point linkage hitch on.


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    #6906
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,378 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    kowtow wrote: »
    More or less got to grips with this T6, have to say it makes a change from an MF50b with no roof and brakes on one side only. Also it has lights! - I can now throw away the head torch and shoot the bulbs out of the few remaining lights in the yard.

    Particularly pleased with the loader although the electronic controls take a bit of getting used to, mainly cos the 3rd service is shared with the crowd / tilt (didn't think to get the extra live 3 valve option at the time..)

    Very comfortable on the road and a really quiet cab IMO which is a big relief as it will do an hour on the road for a good chunk of the year. I stuck with the 40K box and I don't believe it will make a lot of difference to the journey time.

    Do any of you tractor lovers know how to get the memory shuttle thing in the New Holland Electrocommand to work?.. the thing which remembers one gear in forward and the other in reverse? The manual goes in to some detail but I must be missing something....

    And what is the story with loader soft ride & front axle suspension? Should they both be locked out for yard work?

    Must also get a ball hitch for the link arms as the draw bar is too high set to take one.

    As for the soft ride on the loader I only turn it off when stacking bales up high as it Can be jumpy and when I'm scraping the ground or pushing to a pile of sand/FYM


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    #6907
    X6.430macman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    kowtow wrote:
    And what is the story with loader soft ride & front axle suspension? Should they both be locked out for yard work?


    Soft ride off when not on the road as it will **** it up if putting it under any pressure for long periods of time.
    Is she a 145?


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    #6908
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    X6.430macman wrote: »
    Soft ride off when not on the road as it will **** it up if putting it under any pressure for long periods of time.
    Is she a 145?

    Yup, 145.


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    #6909
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Our new 181 arrived yesterday.
    PITA that's it's too wet to get out and do some field work to test her out


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    #6910
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,203 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Our new 181 arrived yesterday.
    PITA that's it's too wet to get out and do some field work to test her out

    Best of luck with it :)


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    #6911
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,378 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Our new 181 arrived yesterday.
    PITA that's it's too wet to get out and do some field work to test her out

    I notice that it shows you how to open the bonnet. Must be a common thing with them :D


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    #6912
    zetecescort
    Registered Users Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Our new 181 arrived yesterday.
    PITA that's it's too wet to get out and do some field work to test her out

    Did Santa hang on for the 181 plates?


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    #6913
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    zetecescort wrote: »
    Did Santa hang on for the 181 plates?

    Santa is a cute operator.
    Just have to get him to get me the real one now ;)


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    #6914
    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    kowtow wrote: »
    More or less got to grips with this T6, have to say it makes a change from an MF50b with no roof and brakes on one side only. Also it has lights! - I can now throw away the head torch and shoot the bulbs out of the few remaining lights in the yard.

    Particularly pleased with the loader although the electronic controls take a bit of getting used to, mainly cos the 3rd service is shared with the crowd / tilt (didn't think to get the extra live 3 valve option at the time..)

    Very comfortable on the road and a really quiet cab IMO which is a big relief as it will do an hour on the road for a good chunk of the year. I stuck with the 40K box and I don't believe it will make a lot of difference to the journey time.

    Do any of you tractor lovers know how to get the memory shuttle thing in the New Holland Electrocommand to work?.. the thing which remembers one gear in forward and the other in reverse? The manual goes in to some detail but I must be missing something....

    And what is the story with loader soft ride & front axle suspension? Should they both be locked out for yard work?

    Must also get a ball hitch for the link arms as the draw bar is too high set to take one.

    For the gears,

    Hold down clutch, select the forward and select the gear you want, select reverse and select the gear then take off in which ever direction you want and it should stay.

    If you want to get it so that both gears are the same hold clutch down nuetral the shuttle and select whatever gear you want, it’ll be the same both ways then.

    I say should stay above as an odd time it’ll have a dumb dumb moment and forget where it’s Spose to be.

    As for the soft ride, had 3 tractors with it here now, put it on the first 2 of them ourselves and the current came with it and none of them were ever turned off from the day they were put on, and that includes loading dung and grain with a 7ft bucket on the current loader. The current and last tractor have racked up the best part of 5k hours of varied work with the loaders on and the soft rides are spot on so I wouldn’t be to worried about it


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    #6915
    X6.430macman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    Zr105 wrote:
    As for the soft ride, had 3 tractors with it here now, put it on the first 2 of them ourselves and the current came with it and none of them were ever turned off from the day they were put on, and that includes loading dung and grain with a 7ft bucket on the current loader. The current and last tractor have racked up the best part of 5k hours of varied work with the loaders on and the soft rides are spot on so I wouldn’t be to worried about it


    Would it not drive you mad trying to load dung on the fork or something (for instance) and the loader jumping and sinking


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    #6916
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    X6.430macman wrote: »
    Would it not drive you mad trying to load dung on the fork or something (for instance) and the loader jumping and sinking

    I was thinking the same, my loader would get on your nerves too in soft mode when working, soft in probably more soft on some than others


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    #6917
    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    X6.430macman wrote: »
    Would it not drive you mad trying to load dung on the fork or something (for instance) and the loader jumping and sinking

    Not in the slightest, if anything it helps it follow the ground a lot better than when it’s off. It’s important to get the bucket or fork sitting flat on the ground alright but that’s the same with soft ride off. It’s a lot easier on the tractor too as the shocks that come with the weight are cushioned out of it rather than rattling back through every bolt and link in the tractor.

    Tbh even if it was gona wreck the bottle Over time id let it, €200 for a replacement bottle is worth it to save both myself and the machine being shook to bits with it turned off for IMO no reason, plus as I said we’ve put 5k hours up on 2 machines with them on the whole time and they still work perfectly so it must take fair going to wreck them. Now don’t get me wrong there not do heavy heavy loader work for all those hours but it’s still there bouncing around.

    Just to add I also find it helps a lot If say loading the spreader, as you tip out the fork or bucket the front edge is obviously going to drop closer to the machine but as the weight comes off it the loader lifts a bit, and just helps that little bit as your not having to pull back on the joystick as well


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    #6918
    cute geoge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I never heard such a load of shlt as above ,i was always told turn off the soft drive when loading ,i would say you must not be doing too much heavy loading in that 5k hours and the cost would be €300 at least to replace the soft drive


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    #6919
    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I never heard such a load of shlt as above ,i was always told turn off the soft drive when loading ,i would say you must not be doing too much heavy loading in that 5k hours and the cost would be €300 at least to replace the soft drive

    Bought the bottles for the first loaders for €205, main dealers may be more but they can be got from the likes of nelson hydraulics for less. And as I said it’s not all heavy loading but does put up with a 7ft bucket or 6ft grab loading dung.


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    #6920
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Zr105 wrote:
    Hold down clutch, select the forward and select the gear you want, select reverse and select the gear then take off in which ever direction you want and it should stay.


    I reckon we've got it turned off altogether. There s a piece in the manual about turning it on... engine off and shuttle in reverse hold up shift button before turning ignition on. You get a message in the display but it's not clear how you select yes/ no....


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    #6921
    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    kowtow wrote: »
    I reckon we've got it turned off altogether. There s a piece in the manual about turning it on... engine off and shuttle in reverse hold up shift button before turning ignition on. You get a message in the display but it's not clear how you select yes/ no....

    Ah right, that’s a bit strange so! Does the message in the display state wether it’s on or off, if you release the upshift button then press it again does it change?


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    #6922
    queueeye
    Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭queueeye


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I never heard such a load of shlt as above ,i was always told turn off the soft drive when loading ,i would say you must not be doing too much heavy loading in that 5k hours and the cost would be €300 at least to replace the soft ride

    Well if someone told you then it must be true.
    Only ever turn off shock control here if using the loader at ground level in a field, for example pushing bushes together or loading dung tipped out on ground to be ploughed so the bucket or pike won't stick in the ground. Turned on for everything else.
    Over 5000 hours on the loader now, rarely a day it's not used, stacks and feeds out a lot of bales as well as pit silage each year, cleans out straw bed sheds etc so by any standard a lot work.
    Replaced accumulator bottle only once,cost about 150 quid.


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    #6923
    The Nutty M
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Mine is supposed to be 4.2 with loader and it's nearly a ton heavier

    Got the little peteen weighed today,7.4 tonne. You were pretty bang on with the tonne heavier.


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    #6924
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,378 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    The Nutty M wrote: »
    Got the little peteen weighed today,7.4 tonne. You were pretty bang on with the tonne heavier.

    Nothing little about it :D

    I think they are weighed with no oil or anything in time at the factory


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    #6925
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    What would a 390 weigh?


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    #6926
    kay 9
    Registered Users Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭kay 9


    ganmo wrote: »
    What would a 390 weigh?

    About 3.5
    4wd 3295kg
    2wd 2746kg
    That's probably dry weight without a cab


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    #6927
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Zr105 wrote: »
    Ah right, that’s a bit strange so! Does the message in the display state wether it’s on or off, if you release the upshift button then press it again does it change?

    When it goes into "choose mode" (after turning ignition back on) the display says Opt.. you need to fiddle around to get it to display no and then Yes in sequence.. but the up down buttons for the gears, which the manual says are used to make a selection, don't make any selection at all. The only buttons which change anything on the display are the two on the bottom right of the display itself and the one on the left.. the buttons which are normally used for changing the display brightness AFAIK...

    I can get the display to show YES but I can't "save" the selection in any obvious way.

    Puzzling, because it looks as though it should be there!


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    #6928
    Bullocks
    Registered Users Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    kowtow wrote: »
    When it goes into "choose mode" (after turning ignition back on) the display says Opt.. you need to fiddle around to get it to display no and then Yes in sequence.. but the up down buttons for the gears, which the manual says are used to make a selection, don't make any selection at all. The only buttons which change anything on the display are the two on the bottom right of the display itself and the one on the left.. the buttons which are normally used for changing the display brightness AFAIK...

    I can get the display to show YES but I can't "save" the selection in any obvious way.

    Puzzling, because it looks as though it should be there!
    Would the dealer send out a lad to go through a few things like this on a new tractor ? It would be no harm considering the advances in technology .
    A mate of mine bought a new Holland like that last year and he hasn't a Scooby about how to use any of the fiddley bits and doesn't intend to figure them out either , it's a waste really then


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    #6929
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Bullocks wrote: »
    Would the dealer send out a lad to go through a few things like this on a new tractor ? It would be no harm considering the advances in technology .
    A mate of mine bought a new Holland like that last year and he hasn't a Scooby about how to use any of the fiddley bits and doesn't intend to figure them out either , it's a waste really then

    ah we have most of it mastered but this operates a bit different to the way it is described in the manual. The gearboxes changed a little (lever positioning etc.) since the manual was written so I'll send the boy into the dealer one day after college and he can go through it with him.

    I'm sure they'd have been happy to go through it with me if I had asked them!


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    #6930
    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Bullocks wrote: »
    Would the dealer send out a lad to go through a few things like this on a new tractor ? It would be no harm considering the advances in technology .
    A mate of mine bought a new Holland like that last year and he hasn't a Scooby about how to use any of the fiddley bits and doesn't intend to figure them out either , it's a waste really then

    I know a man buying a new case from lynch and McCarthy in cork. They're organising a days training for him at their premises.


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    #6931
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    White Clover wrote: »
    I know a man buying a new case from lynch and McCarthy in cork. They're organising a days training for him at their premises.

    Days training a bit overkill unless he's going from an 885 into a quadtrac!
    When we bought the new Massey the lads in the yard went through everything with us. It was simple enough. Although that was a simple enough one.
    Looking at upgrading again and they've completely changed. So many features on the ones with the electronic arm rest


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